Where are all the 357 Lever Rifles?!


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dubious
April 26, 2011, 01:45 PM
It seems like hardly anybody has 357 lever action rifles for sale these days. Buds only has marlins and pumas in 45 or 44. Why is it so hard to find a good ol 357 lever action right now?!

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GlockNation
April 26, 2011, 01:48 PM
Marlin was just taken over by Remington as of April 15, 2011. Remington is moving Marlin bolt action manufacturing to Kentucky I believe and moving lever gun production to somewhere in NY. This may have something to so with it, I don't know.

Float Pilot
April 26, 2011, 01:53 PM
There used to be all sorts of used ones for sale up here in Alaska, but they too seemed to have been grabbed up....
They are a good all around multi-purpose firearm that can use easy to find ammo. Plus they share the interchangeability with revolvers.
Gee it is almost like folks see something coming.

Terry4130
April 26, 2011, 02:02 PM
I just picked this marlin 1894 up on the 19th. I had been looking for one and this just happened to show up on consignment at a local gun shop. I guess I got lucky because everywhere I went or called said it would probably be awhile. http://tapatalk.com/mu/4407a92f-fabf-373d.jpg

B_Li_Ber_Tar_Ian
April 26, 2011, 03:38 PM
I called Marlin on the 20th and was told production of the 1894c will begin in May and run through the remainder of the year, the 1894css will run production in June and then take a break until August then run production for the remainder of the year. Your best bet is go to your LGS and get on a waiting list.

Doug Add
April 26, 2011, 04:11 PM
Like Terry4130 I found one in a large group of consignment rifles at my local shop/range. That was back in March 2006, and I am ashamed to say what a deal I got when I read what people are paying for them today.

Keep looking for used ones. A number of folks are disappointed with the new 1894s being produced by Remington. Browse around the 1894 section (http://www.marlinowners.com/forums/index.php/board,32.0.html) at the Marlin Owners forum for some discussion of the factory new ones.

dubious
April 26, 2011, 05:37 PM
Yeah I'm just not seeing any in the used stores in my area either. I dont even see one on gunbroker right now! It's bizzarre... it seems like they should be ubiquitous.

El Tejon
April 26, 2011, 05:40 PM
1. Marlin production has been suspended.

2. Midwestern states, such as Indiana, have liberalized deer hunting regs to allow pistol caliber carbines. Demand for .45, .44 and .357 carbines rose.

forgetitohio
April 26, 2011, 06:06 PM
dubious........ Are you looking for a Marlin or some thing else?

I am the original owner of a Marlin .357 made in 1995. serial# 0507xxxx... have box

Checkered stock, Micro groove BBL., rings for strap(I don't have strap) BL.rubber buttpad.

A Simmons Prohunter 3-9x40 scope w/Weaver ring mounts. The scope view isn't round; looks like a TV.

I bought it the same yr. I started shooting in USPSA so didn't shoot it much. maybe 200- 300rds.
The only wear is inside on the ejector assembly and where the lever closes in the frame. Not a scratch, ding or anything else on the stock.

PM me if you're looking or anybody else.

That which does not kill me makes me stronger. - Friedrich Nietzsche

firearmnut
April 26, 2011, 06:33 PM
I don't know were they are but if i found one tiered be one less in the market place:evil:.

wow6599
April 26, 2011, 06:53 PM
I found one...........in my safe!

I looked for a long time and when Bud's finally had one (last year) I was broke, so I traded a S&W 686 SSR for it. I think the trade may end-up being a better deal for me than I originally thought.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm31/wow6599/DSC00524.jpg

JMSUN
April 26, 2011, 08:11 PM
Good question. I have just been discussing this with a couple guys the last couple days. I have wanted one for quite a long while, but they sure few and far between especially used. When you find them they seem to be quite expensive for what they are as well. You can buy 2 inexpensive bolt guns or 2 Marlin 336 for the price of one 1894. Maybe everyone likes them so well they don't want to sell them!?

Doug Add
April 26, 2011, 09:50 PM
Maybe everyone likes them so well they don't want to sell them!?
Bingo!

I could sell mine right now for more than double what I paid for it, but it's not going anywhere. The only person to get this 1894c will be my son when I die.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p48/DougAdd/1894c.jpg

riflenut
April 27, 2011, 02:25 AM
Hey Dubious, there is a huge gun shop in Owensboro,ky called Whittakers guns its the largest gun shop in ky ,has over 6000 guns in stock! this place is to cool, I live in louisville,ky about 115 miles from this gun shop. I go there at least 10 times a year. I have puchased several guns there because of price and selection. check out his site at www.whittakerguns.com he should be able to locate or have a 357Mag. leveraction rifle . Good luck!!!

AethelstanAegen
April 29, 2011, 02:27 AM
I recently bought a 1911 from Philip J. Rezac LLC and was really happy with the experience. I've been looking into lever action rifles as well and I know he seems to have some available according to his website. It might be worth taking a look there.

skipbo32
April 29, 2011, 03:07 AM
mines a winchester trapper. i love hicking with this gun. ive never tested it with a hunt. i'd imagine it would drop a deer at 75yds with a lung shot. i traded an original Civil War "Starr" revolver for it. it's the fourth gun down.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/skipbo32/DSC04192.jpg

christcorp
April 29, 2011, 10:35 AM
I found some around here. Unfortunately, I wasn't willing to pay for some of their prices. A consignment for a used 1894C, "Not too old, it has the newer safety", the individual wanted within $40 of the New price. Around $540. He wasn't budging. He snickered and said he'll get the money he wants. There were also a couple of 1894C at 2 big box stores. Cabelas has the 1894C in stock for $579 (not negotiable) and sportsman's warehouse has the 1894CSS in stock for $649. Add another $35-$40 for tax, and you're at over $600 for the 1894C and $690 for the CSS. Sorry, but they aren't worth that to me.

I did however run into a Rossi M92. 24" stainless steel octagon barrel. Got it new for $500. Some people said that some places online are as low as $470 and in the retail store for as high as $575. So I feel I did OK. I checked with 4 different online, who like everyone else was out of stock. He admitted that while the price listed was their most recent price when in stock; that they will most likely up the price if they get them back in stock. He said that 357 mag lever actions will probably start selling for a lot closer to suggest retail prices.

Most of them agreed that part of shortage has to do with a rising interest in CAS and amateur interest in cowboy type guns. Also; with the cost of ammo, the 38spl is a lot less expensive to shoot than the 30-30 or 35 rem.

Here's a bad pic, but I like the gun. I initially wanted the 1894C, but besides the price, they ONLY make the 357 mag in an 18" barrel. The gun felt way too small to me. I would love a 20" like my model 336 30-30, but that wasn't going to happen with a Marlin. But so far, I'm quite happy with the Rossi. Their quality has improved a lot of the years, and many CAS shooters talk highly of the Rossi series.

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1piDeVhVz_ITl5m2imwhE4MwBpqyQMOUfgEGkPqviu32UezgBhKe1FUlfyV24lbN3qDB9_wUesu6qtKyrCYNS_4Q/Rossi-M92.jpg?psid=1

PapaG
April 29, 2011, 03:06 PM
I've been watching our suppliers' online catalogs for six months for a Rossi 357 in ss. They've shown none of any model during this time. Gotta get it from the place I work...wouldn't feel right going to duck hill.

skipbo32
April 29, 2011, 04:22 PM
i would think for a .357 that the shorter the barrel the better in terms of velocity.

christcorp
April 29, 2011, 10:54 PM
i would think for a .357 that the shorter the barrel the better in terms of velocity.
When it comes to the 357, most ballistic specs I've read, show very little difference in velocity coming from an 18, to 20, to 24" barrel. However; the 24" barrel will tend to be more accurate. And while slightly heavier, it is more balanced. "That part is subjective and just my observation".

chas2600
April 30, 2011, 12:18 PM
I just got a Henry .357, brand new. What a great weapon, only 725 at a gun show.

Red Cent
April 30, 2011, 11:06 PM
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/redcent69/Win1873comparison001.jpg

joehorner
April 30, 2011, 11:24 PM
Been looking for a while and found this at a gun show two months ago. It is a Rossi 92 with a 24" barrel. Have not seen these in brass. I got it. The sights were a little hard to focus so I bought a Hi-Viz front along with an adjustable ghost ring in the back. Much better. They came from Steve's Gunz shop. The pic I have is with the original sights...................Joe

salvo
May 1, 2011, 11:52 AM
I was searching for mine about 3 years ago and they were hard to find then also.
I finally found my 1894CB Cowboy Limited 20" octagon barrel, one state over in Utah on sale no less at Sportmans. Love this gun, accuracy is outstanding!
I put a set of brass Skinner peep sights on it since this picture.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d71/SeaOx/Baker/IMG_20070721_0047.jpg

About a month or two later Big 5 had the Rossi 92 Puma 20" on sale for around $325.00 I bought it for a project gun. Stripped and refinished the wood, slicked up the action and chopped the barrel to 16.25" great little truck gun!

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d71/SeaOx/Puma%2092/IMG_3276.jpg

76shuvlinoff
May 1, 2011, 10:00 PM
I picked up a beautiful 1977 Marlin .357 1894c a couple years ago. I don't plan to part with it and I think most people that have one feel the same.

They appear to be held in high regard for a little pistol caliber carbine often snubbed by real riflemen. Like the 30-30, it just depends on where you live.

B_Li_Ber_Tar_Ian
May 11, 2011, 02:19 PM
Buds is back in stock...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_323/products_id/41044

Smaug
May 11, 2011, 02:32 PM
When I was buying, I just figured .44 Magnum would be the more versatile cartridge. (I hand-load my ammo) The .357 may be a bit flatter-shooting, but if you plan to shoot it much past 100 yards, you're better off wit ha 30-30 anyhow.

If you're buying new, see where it was made. If it was made in the old CT factory, avoid it. Mine was a "transition gun" which means the guys who made it knew their days were numbered, and it shows. They didn't chamfer anything they should have chamfered, and mine is a Jam-O-Matic. The breech face at the chamber was razor sharp, and it dug into each case as it is fed at a slight angle. Luckily, I bought the store's warranty. Their gunsmith worked on it once (chamfered some stuff) and it is loads better, but still not 100% reliable with reasonable ammo. (.44 Mag, 240 gr. flat or hollow point ammo) I HATE having to send guns back to the mfr.; it is real genuine hassle. Especially new guns.

Much preferred would be an older one that is known to be reliable.

...or, if you buy a new one, make sure it is from the NY factory, or be prepared to send it back.

B_Li_Ber_Tar_Ian
May 11, 2011, 03:03 PM
:eek:That didn't take long, Buds sold out in 15 minutes!

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