Favorite .45 (non-1911)


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Thlax
April 27, 2011, 01:44 PM
Was looking around and seeing what .45s are available in a non 1911 platform. Im basically seeing that people really only have a sig220, hk45/usp, or a glock. (Because this is in Auto forum, im looking for auto's only)

Anything else out there that i should try out (not that there is anything wrong with whats listed above) and/or why they chose sig/hk/glock?

Would be range/hd/possible ccw

Thanks

-D

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docnyt
April 27, 2011, 01:48 PM
Don't forget the CZ97B

JTQ
April 27, 2011, 01:53 PM
The Ruger's, P345 and P90 (P90 is recently discontinued, but it should still be available on the shelves).

S&W M&P, S&W 945 (1911ish).

FNP45.

EAA Witness. Similar to the CZ. The frame is not as big as CZ97, but bigger than the CZ75.

Baby Eagle. Another CZ semi-clone.

Stoeger Cougar.

Beretta PX4.

Taurus OSS

Big_E
April 27, 2011, 01:57 PM
The CZ97 as mentioned before. There is the Glock 21 as you mentioned, but I don't shoot it very well and the grips are a little big for me. Might want to try the 21sf if you have smallish hands.

I really want to try a FNP .45, or the M&P .45.

Or go all out and get a H&K Mk. 23. I have heard that those are sweet. Albeit hard to find and very expensive.

I'm sure there are other .45's that I'm forgetting off the top of my head. Oh, the Jericho 941 Compact.

Viper
April 27, 2011, 04:20 PM
I have had quite a few non 1911 45's over the years, mostly compact versions since I like to carry a 45. I really like shooting my P220, but it is just a bit too large for me to carry. Up until I got my first HK USP c 45 I would have said the M&P and it's still a great pistol for the money. Unfortunately the USP 45 was stolen a couple of months ago, so I replaced it with an HK45C. That is now my favorite non 1911 45. Of course, if we include 1911's, my SIG C3 and STI escort would easily be in the running.

WRGADog
April 27, 2011, 04:26 PM
My brother-in-law has the XDM 45 and it shoots great. No failures whatsoever through first 300 rounds. I have 3 XDm's, but not a 45, which have performed flawlessly.

6Covered
April 27, 2011, 04:32 PM
Third Gen Smiths ie. 4506 4566 457.

Tough as a tank, reliable as the Tax Man.

Jon

glockky
April 27, 2011, 05:52 PM
Glock 21 my favorite pistol by a long shot.

wow6599
April 27, 2011, 05:53 PM
S&W 4506-1 or FNP 45 USG............

cajun 48
April 27, 2011, 06:04 PM
S&W M&P full size!

Hagen442
April 27, 2011, 06:10 PM
Favorite IDPA/USPSA Non 1911 45 ACP - Sig 220 Match

GZOh
April 27, 2011, 06:14 PM
One of the most accurate, well-made 45s I've shot... my 'bedside' and at times, CCW pistola...
IMHO, one of SIG's best!!!!

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/geezeepix/P220C008.jpg

Thlax
April 27, 2011, 06:15 PM
I think I like the HK45c a lot out of the group. I wish there wasn't the decocker Built into the safety as I feel if you carry C&L,but push the sfatey too far off, it will decock, thus being pointless as you would've just carried it in DA. Also not sure about the mag release but all else seems great.

The sig seems to have a wonderful track record and I've shot the 229 befor but the 220 just feels dated. And with the new sig QC who knows. The 220 elite dark does look pretty spiffy. I feel as thought you can't grip the gun as high on a sig compares to others though.

Glocks glock. Love um but it's a glock. Ha

dprice3844444
April 27, 2011, 06:25 PM
glock is way lighter if your gonna carry concealed also.if you decide on the sig and are rtired cop/military,check out the sig law enforcement section for buying at a discounthttp://sigsauer.com/LawEnforcement/Le-Mil-Overview.aspx

modifiedbrowning
April 27, 2011, 06:28 PM
I like my FNP 45, but my S&W 745 is fun too. I just picked up a 220, but haven't had a chance to shoot it yet.

hanno
April 27, 2011, 06:32 PM
One more plug for the CZ 97.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/kraut/CZ%2097B/CZ97B-left3.jpg

PabloJ
April 27, 2011, 06:47 PM
Last one I owned was compact S&W 457. Depending on ammo used reliability was about 98%. The accuracy was pretty typical of standard factory 3rd gen S&W acceptable but not as good as some other makes I have tried.

Bentonville
April 27, 2011, 06:54 PM
HK because reliable, ergonomically superior to anything I have held other than a 1911, accurate, easy to maintain/clean, durable beyond reason, and the list could go on and on for me. I really enjoy owning my HK45C.

schmeky
April 27, 2011, 06:55 PM
This one, approaching 8,000 rounds, my HK USP 45 is neck and neck with the 97.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7188/img0749.jpg

Mac Attack
April 27, 2011, 06:57 PM
For carry I like my G30. Its compact, light weight, large capacity, can accept G21 mags and is amazingly accurate for such a small package.

Hunter2678
April 27, 2011, 07:15 PM
I'm in love with my Witness Match in 45..superb groups right out of the box...the trigger is just as excellent and has spoiled me.This feels like a mans gun and gets alot of questions at the range bc she's downright sexy.

My USPc 45 has been sent to Bill Springfield and had the trigger job on both SA & DA as well as his accurizing pkg....it can hang with the witness but obviously doesn't feel as refined on the range but it"ll eat anything you feed it so its my SHTF gun..

1858
April 27, 2011, 07:41 PM
SIG P220 ... reliable, accurate, ergonomic and aesthetically pleasing. My first .45 semi-auto was a Ruger P90 that I bought in '92. I shot a few thousand rounds through it but was never really happy with it. The local range had a gun shop in the lobby, and after handling a P220 in early '93, it took me all of 10 seconds to trade in the Ruger to buy the P220 and I never looked back. I now have five P220s and after shooting all manner of .45 ACP semi-autos over the years, the P220 is still my favorite non 1911 and probably always will be. Here's my first (top left) that has consumed more than 15,000 rounds without changing a single part. It looks good in the photo but there's a fair amount of wear on the rails, and scratches, scrapes and dings in the slide ... I love that pistol. It's shown with a P220 Carry ... also an excellent pistol.

http://128.171.62.162/hawthorn-engineering/thr/pistols/sig_p220/photos/p220s_1.jpg

Dr.Rob
April 27, 2011, 07:45 PM
No such thing exists. :scrutiny:


















Ok maybe Sig 220, HK P9S

bergmen
April 27, 2011, 08:00 PM
Third Gen Smiths ie. 4506 4566 457.

Tough as a tank, reliable as the Tax Man.

Jon

I've had my 457 for about ten years and I wouldn't let this thing go for anything. This pistol has never jammed, no matter what I have fed it (just about everything), is smack-on accurate, 7+1. It is a bit heavy but it is the most trustworthy of my carry guns (okay, my G19 is just as good).

It is also a bunch-o-fun to shoot, love it dearly:

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/44805/2465047770053667879S600x600Q85.jpg http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/5974/2932101290053667879S600x600Q85.jpg

Dan

Darebear
April 27, 2011, 08:01 PM
I think I like the HK45c a lot out of the group. I wish there wasn't the decocker Built into the safety as I feel if you carry C&L,but push the sfatey too far off, it will decock, thus being pointless as you would've just carried it in DA. Also not sure about the mag release but all else seems great.

The sig seems to have a wonderful track record and I've shot the 229 befor but the 220 just feels dated. And with the new sig QC who knows. The 220 elite dark does look pretty spiffy. I feel as thought you can't grip the gun as high on a sig compares to others though.

Glocks glock. Love um but it's a glock. Ha
Variant 9 removes the decocking function. Guys over on HKpro says it cost about 10 bucks for the part(s) you need and if you don't like it it's always easy to go back to Variant 1.

My vote goes to the HK45c. The only other pistols that I shot that was more accurate and absorbed recoil than my HK45c was a full size 1911 with a ninja-fied trigger. Very smart to exclude 1911's because even though my heart is with HK, I'm smart enough to know nothing beats a high quality 1911 when it comes to the "man-stopper" round.

bestseller92
April 27, 2011, 08:03 PM
The Ruger P90 has a reputation as an accurate, uber-reliable pistol.

thefamcnaj
April 27, 2011, 08:07 PM
i like the glock 30 because it holds 10 plus1 or it will take the 21 mag that holds 13 plus one. Thats alot of rounds in a compact 45 and it shoots great and i've never had a malfunction with it. Makes a good carry gun and a good night stand gun. i like it better than the xdm 45 i had. i sold it for money towards my hk usp 40c.

CZ57
April 27, 2011, 08:07 PM
SA XDm .45ACP!;)

gb6491
April 27, 2011, 08:16 PM
Currently, it's my Kahr CW45:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2n3cqh.jpg
Regards,
Greg

labhound
April 27, 2011, 08:43 PM
My Stoeger Cougar 8045 with a Viridian C5L laser/light. Excellent gun at an excellent price ($450 NIB).
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd366/labhound1/Cougarwithlaser015.jpg

Thlax
April 27, 2011, 08:46 PM
Does anyone own both sig and HK in 45? I'd be interested on their thoughts.

For a 1911 Ive picked out a DW CCOBob or Vbob :) but I want someone else that shoots the 45!

WNC Seabee
April 27, 2011, 08:56 PM
Not much Love for the XD, eh? I've had my XD 45 compact for several thousand rounds without a hiccup. Carries well in a CrossBreed Supertuck and is very very accurate.

I also have and carry an S&W 4566. Uber-reliable, it will cycle empty cases. A bit heavy for EDC, but it rides in my truck console everywhere I go.

Thlax
April 27, 2011, 08:59 PM
XDs never caught my eye. I don't know. Will rent one before I make a purchase on 45 tho. Nice choice on CB Holster:) I have my G23 in mine now.

orionengnr
April 27, 2011, 10:20 PM
Although I have owned several different non-1911 .45 acp pistols, the only one I own currently is a Kahr P45. Thin, exceptionally light weight (18.5 oz), accurate and reliable.

Dogguy
April 27, 2011, 10:25 PM
I'm partial to the Glock 30. Also the Ruger P345. I'm lusting for a SIG P220 right now.

Owen Sparks
April 27, 2011, 10:38 PM
I have the full sized XD in .45 and love it. The grip angle is the same as the 1911 and it holds 14 rounds but still fits my small hands. I think that it is an improvement over the 25year older Glock design that feels like a brick in my hand.

CZ57
April 27, 2011, 10:41 PM
XDs never caught my eye. I don't know.

Rent an XDm .45 before you decide. To me this is a two gun race between the Glock 21 and the XDm .45 ACP. I thought about an FNP-USG before I bought the XDm but decided otherwise after hearing complaints on the FNH board. In fact, I decided on the XDm as soon it was announced in .45 ACP and bought one sight unseen. I love it. Interchangeable backstraps allowed me to fit the pistol to my hand and the conventional rifling allows you to effectively shoot cast handloads whereas the Glock comes up short without an aftermarket barrel. The CZ-97 is also a nice piece except that it is very large. The XDm is very accurate also.;)

jetrecbn
April 27, 2011, 10:44 PM
I have both the P220 (W.Ger) and HK45. I am on a 1911 kick, and the HK is new so my P220 is taking the back seat. Both of mine have had their triggers smoothed over, but out of the box the Sigs trigger was better. Can't go wrong with either one. They both have their pros and cons, but for me right now the HK is on my hip.

The Sig is waiting for the SRT parts right now. I'll see if it my preference tilts back.

IkenI
April 28, 2011, 12:10 AM
and I have four of them (German, SAS DAK, Compact and...) my current favorite and newest P220 born Jan 2011. A short run of no rail, no tail and old style trigger.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t201/IkenI_photo/0012.jpg

agtman
April 28, 2011, 03:13 PM
Like my pre-"tear-down" Sig 220 a lot, but find I really love my S&W 4566, a lightly-used police trade-in:

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/agtman/SW-5.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/agtman/SW-1.jpg

It's a great shooter, holds 8+1, and the 4.25" "Commander" slide and slim profile allow it to conceal well.

:cool:

los
April 28, 2011, 04:41 PM
Lately, I've been having a blast with this tiny thing.:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/los3088/AMTBackUp45inHand-img0012-650.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/los3088/AMTBackUp45withGTSSandCheckeredFrontstrap-img007-650.jpg

cwp3420
April 28, 2011, 06:40 PM
When I was looking at a good CC pistol in .45ACP, I narrowed it down to either Glock, Sig, or HK. When I was a Border Patrol Agent, for awhile I carried a Sig Sauer P220. At the time, agents could carry their own personally owned pistol, so I took advantage of that and did so. Later in my career, while in INS as a criminal investigator, I carried an HK USP Compact in .40S&W with the LEM trigger. I absolutely loved it. Then Homeland Security was created and we carried the U.S. Customs Glock 19.

I found when I looked at the Glock 45 pistols that the grip was entirely too big for my smaller hands. I figured if I couldn't hold it in my hands correctly, then I wouldn't shoot it well. I then thought about another P220, which are excellent pistols. However, for me, I found Sigs to have a higher muzzle flip that any other pistol I had shot simply because the Sigs are very tall pistols, and the slide recoils back over my carry hand higher than anything else, so more muzzle flip.

When I finally held my HK45CT, I knew I had found the absolute best pistol made in .45ACP (IMO:)). It fits my hand very well, conceals very well, and has less recoil than the Colt 1911 I carried for awhile while in the BP. Plus, the quality is excellent.

Everyone's hands are different also, so keep searching until you find something that is of high quality and that you can bet your life on. For me personally, it was the HK45CT. Good luck with your search for your pistol!

Jeb21
April 28, 2011, 06:53 PM
Sig 220 is excellent and I carry it often. However for the money it is hard to beat the M&P full sized 45.

bestseller92
April 28, 2011, 07:17 PM
Great looking SIG and Smith, IkenI and agtman.

saenzrich
April 28, 2011, 07:32 PM
xd 45 compact 4" for sure

Agmundr
April 28, 2011, 08:18 PM
I'm also a huge advocate of the XD .45. I've got the full size model, which serves as a carry weapon and a bedside weapon.

Cricoid
April 28, 2011, 08:26 PM
I've got a Glock 21SF with night sights on the nightstand. Great pistol.

I frequently carry a Kahr CW45 which I'm also quite fond of.

Dr.Rob
April 28, 2011, 09:22 PM
CDNN has been selling single action only Sig 220's they might be worth a look see.

Effigy
April 28, 2011, 09:36 PM
I really love the ergonomics of the P220. It feels good in hand and the controls make sense. Very accurate and reliable as well.

Walkalong
April 28, 2011, 11:06 PM
My favorite non 1911 .45 ACP - CZ97

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=128493&d=1286119920

dmlehto
April 28, 2011, 11:27 PM
let not forget the hi-point 45. sure everyone will laugh at you but its cheap and durable(kinda).

Owen Sparks
April 29, 2011, 01:26 AM
it also makes a great boat anchor.

Thlax
April 29, 2011, 08:45 AM
Haha I'm REALLY liking the HK45c with the LEM trigger.....

foghornl
April 29, 2011, 10:58 AM
I have a P90 Ruger I bought just after 9-11-01. Like it a lot, but I see Ruger has stopped making it. Haven't shot a Ruger P-345, but I think it is just a bit slimmer.

Whiskey11
April 29, 2011, 01:59 PM
XD45 tactical here, wouldn't trade it for the world. Spends its days on my side in its safariland 6280 and ready to go. Shoots great, mild recoil and aftermarket parts galore. Win, win, win :)

Shmackey
April 29, 2011, 02:08 PM
The Sig X6 would like to thank all the other nice little guns for playing. :)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/chet007/SigX-Six007.jpg

Thlax
April 29, 2011, 02:12 PM
Wow!

Tom Fury
April 29, 2011, 04:53 PM
+1 for the Smith family; buying another CS45, and 457; own 4x 4506's and 3 4516s'; have been 100% for me; 457 stainless shocked me with accuracy. Own a 4513 I haven't shot yet.

Cheers, TF

Br
April 29, 2011, 05:10 PM
If I had a Sig P220 or X6 that might be my favorite. But of what I have, its my Glock 21.

Smaug
April 29, 2011, 05:34 PM
My favorites were HK USP and EAA Witness Competition. Soft recoil and very accurate. Comfy too.


"Well begun is half done."
-Aristotle

Gottahaveone
April 29, 2011, 05:48 PM
Another vote for the XD-45 Tactical (5"bbl) here. It holds 14 rounds and still fits my hand very well. It has an outstanding trigger (for what it is), and I got the night sight version with 2 mags, mag pouch, holster, and loading tool for $600 new. Did I mention that it's reliable and accurate? I sold a Glock to finance it and that was the best trade I've ever made.

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