[popeye]

I been lookin for a square butt model 12 4" for a long time. I go to a show sat. and there it is. Mod 12-2 (skinny frame) 4" in 100% shape. Butt,, it's got the wrong grips on it. Rubber, and don't fit tight in grip horn area. I ask owner of gun. Is this a square butt gun? and he says "Why yes, it is".

Last week on this very topic I attested to fact "I always take grips off and check underneath" Did I yesterday? Noooooooo. So now I've got a really nice round butt 12 that I fitted some standard S&W wood grips to yesterday afternoon. I guess I'll keep it, but it's really not what I wanted.

[Mike Irwin]

I didn't realize that round butt 4" Model 12s were made.

What did you have to give for it?

That's VERY interesting.

[bpisler]

I picked up a 12-2 4" at a local pawnshop a couple of weeks ago in outstanding condition,maybe unfired,no wear to the finish,no drag line in the factory box for $275.00. My question is are these guns worth more as collectors or shooters? and what area of the frame is skinner compared to a steel K frame?

[popeye]

I paid $275 also. Pinned barrel. Ser #D2397XX.

The entire frame is proportionally thinner. I sanded approx .010 off each grip panel and they fit fine. I'm gettin good at this since I hadda do same thing when I bought mod 12-2 square butt 2" about a year ago. Had rubber grips on it. At that time I was unaware of frame deal. They changed frame to standard thickness with 12-4.

Whats agravating is my stupidity. I just bought a new 10 RB 4" last month. I did however buy a real nice Colt Det Spec. Turd issue with rubber Colt insig. grips yesterday also. I am now on a search for smooth wood colt grips like I had on an Agent a while back. They extend grip frame lenght via a wood insert that is on bottom.

[bpisler]

popeye
Mine has the tapered,pinned barrel too,serial #D6572XX.I justed missed a 2" RB 12-2 that looked to be 98-100% with the box and papers that went for $250.00 on gunbroker:banghead: :fire: :cuss: When i eyeballed the butt of the frame with a 64-3 at a local shop the 2 appeared to be the same,is the frame that's not under the grips the thinner part?

[Old Fuff]

Numrich Arms in West Hurley, NY have the grips you're looking for to fit the Colt "D" frame with the short butt. I presume you want the original walnut kind made by Colt.

[popeye]

Old Fuff:
Thanks, I'll take a look.
bpisler:
The entire frame, along with grip frame area is thinner on both my 12-2's. If I use a standard set of K frame grips they fit fine except in the horn area (area above S&W insignia). At that point grips stand off frame approx. .010 each side. A little sanding and regular K frame grips fit fine.

Attached is link with info on frame changes to mod 12


http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&th=eeab29da7e11f0c&rnum=11

[bpisler]

Thanks for the info and link,lots of good stuff there.