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leadcounsel May 3, 2011, 08:33 PM I may have the opportunity to trade my GP100 .357 with six inch barrel (pictured) for a brand new G23 Gen 4 with mags, box of ammo, and holster (I have plenty of holsters - so this is of no value to me).
I have a G23, and several Glocks, and several revolvers. I am a fan of the Ruger GP100. I have the SP101 and the GP100 in 4".
I could possibly keep the 6" blued and trade a 4" blued. I think the 4" is better and more versatile though.
Would you make the trade?
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leadcounsel May 3, 2011, 10:44 PM bump?
easyg May 3, 2011, 11:04 PM If you hunt animals with a revolver, then I would keep the 6" GP100.
But if you're not a hunter who uses a handgun then I would do the trade.
In my humble opinion, outside of hunting, the 6" GP100 just isn't very practical.
Tomcat47 May 3, 2011, 11:12 PM I wouldnt trade my Taurus 9 shot 22 for a glock!
But if you wanna trade that Georgous GP100 for one I will go buy one! :D
Nice Pistol!
And easyg has a point! But I Hunt!
DC3-CVN-72 May 3, 2011, 11:26 PM NO ! :)
crankyoldlady May 3, 2011, 11:34 PM I wouldn't trade a blued anything for a Glock. A Glock is a garden variety, B-Flat, disposable, easily replaceable, tool. Nothing more. Go out shopping for a blued GP100 and you will find they are not as easy to come by.
leadcounsel May 3, 2011, 11:49 PM These are all very good points... I"m really on the fence here. I may very well keep the Ruger...
crankyoldlady May 4, 2011, 12:02 AM As my Grandma used to say, "When in doubt, leave it out."
Damon555 May 4, 2011, 12:30 AM I think the Glock (new) is worth a tad more than the GP (used?) but since you already have a G23 I think you should keep the Ruger.
Cactus Jack Arizona May 4, 2011, 12:37 AM I most certainly would NOT. :eek: I've already made that mistake. :( Now, I dream about once again buying another GP100 6". This time, however, I think I'll choose the stainless over the blued. :)
personally i wouldnt. glocks are easy to come by if the bug ever bites to get one, but you may find yourself missing the GP. as easyg said, the 6" is really only very useful if you hunt, but then again, i hunt. :)
Cactus Jack Arizona May 4, 2011, 12:52 AM I subscribe to crankyoldlady's view about Glocks. Garden Variety? Now that's funny. :neener:
Rexster May 4, 2011, 03:26 AM A Glock is a Glock is a Glock. That is not saying Glocks are bad, no, they are quite good pistols. But, I would not trade a revolver for a Glock. I would also not want a .40 Glock. The few Glocks which are problematic seem to be chambered in .40 S&W and .45 ACP.
Admittedly, I do like the GP100 more than any handgun in the world. I have noticed that not all GP100s are uniformly smooth and sweet-shootin'. It can be hard to replace a particularly smooth GP100 with another equally as good. One can always find another Glock that is as good as any other Glock.
BigN May 4, 2011, 05:17 AM Not a chance...
GLOOB May 4, 2011, 07:15 AM Both of these guns grow on trees. Neither one will go up in value, any more than inflation - at least for the foreseeable future. Unlike an old smith, Ruger GP100's are made just as well today as they ever were. Maybe better, because investment casting is still undergoing improvements. They're both easy to sell, and easy to replace.
A NIB, or even LNIB Gen4 G23 is worth more right now, and you might find the dual recoil spring and grip make it a better shooter than your current G23. And if your current G23 is older, you'll also get better chamber support, which might matter if you reload. But when LEO's start trading in their Gen4 G23's, the Ruger will probably come out on top, for resale value. But if you're really worried about value 10 years down the road, than why are you buying Rugers and Glocks to begin with?
For me, I only need a few autoloaders. The one's I like the best in each caliber are about all I ever want to shoot. The rest are redundant. So unless I shot my G23 a lot and thought a 4th gen would be even better for me, I'd keep the revolver! If the G23 is your "second tier" 40SW mid-size autoloader, then no way I'd trade. I'd rather collect revolvers I never shoot than autoloaders.
If I were to make the trade, I'd definitely keep the 4".
ojibweindian May 4, 2011, 07:46 AM I'd only make that trade if I didn't have much 357 ammo on hand and had no way of getting more. The 357 is a versatile cartridge, and the GP100 is a stout platform from which to launch it.
archigos May 4, 2011, 07:56 AM Gah. I went to look at the Gen4 features and found that Glock still hasn't fixed their website [DNS] problem. I emailed them about it a couple years ago. You'd think they'd like people to be able to view their website... but then again, its somewhat lacking on modern content anyway.
Jolly Rogers May 4, 2011, 08:05 AM 'Bout the only thing I'd trade for a Glock is a bucket of warm spit.
Joe
Yarddog May 4, 2011, 08:22 AM No no!!
M2 Carbine May 4, 2011, 08:37 AM Would you make the trade?
No.
The only way I'd trade anything for a Glock is if I could sell the Glock and make money on the deal.
460Kodiak May 4, 2011, 08:50 AM I wouldn't trade a Jennings for a Glock.
woad_yurt May 4, 2011, 09:21 AM Would you trade your GP100 6" blued .357 for a new Glock .40 Gen 4 model 23
Nope. If you must trade, how about letting one of the 4 inchers go? Ballistically, .357 usually benefits quite a bit from those extra 2 inches.
leadcounsel May 4, 2011, 09:42 AM Gosh, a lot of great responses here. Thanks guys. I'm leaning toward not making the trade now.
X-Rap May 4, 2011, 10:55 AM I don't think I would trade but the Ruger to the right guy might be worth around $450 just because I don't see them often around here. I personally don't care much for the Ruger DA revolvers so it would have no attachment to me but I can and have bought a number of Glocks for well under $400 so I would try to buy the Glock for $375 or so and go for the money on the Ruger.
Just checked the op and saw it was a g4 Glock, I haven't even held one so take my comments above to be aimed at g2&3 Glocks.
Good luck
leadcounsel May 4, 2011, 11:20 AM Well, in pure dollars and cents, the Glock 23, 120 rounds of ammo, 3 mags, and holster is probably around $500-$550. I can get them with a military discount for $400, but with taxes, shipping and FFL it's still around $450-475.
Now, the Ruger is used and worth probably $400, no more than $450 max.
But I'll likely use the G23 more frequently and ammo for the .357 is much pricier.
Cactus Jack Arizona May 4, 2011, 11:29 AM Actually, when most people talk about the .357 Magnum, they do so with a proud admiration of their beloved round. Nobody talks about brave men and their proud .40's.
firearmnut May 4, 2011, 01:01 PM DO what you want with your gun but if I was you id keep to gp100 and get a glock later maybe a glock 20:D.
HankR May 4, 2011, 02:13 PM I wouldn't trade. I prefer revolvers, don't much care for Glocks, and don't reload .40.
leadcounsel May 4, 2011, 04:05 PM Not a single person would trade the revolver for the glock?
rich642z May 4, 2011, 04:36 PM Forget it,do not trade your Ruger 6 inch for a $200 dollar Glockenspiel. Your blued GP100 is worth more than any Glock combined. We stopped selling Glocks and went to all Rugers in the wholsale department.
hAkron May 4, 2011, 06:45 PM If you have the 4" then trade the 6" for the Glock. If you didn't already have the 4" I would say keep the 6". No proper gun collection should be without a GP-100.
The Glock is a better concealed carry gun, AND you CAN, with a barrel swap, shoot .357 (Sig, not magnum) out of the Glock, so the 'the Ruger is more versatile' or the '.357 is better than .40' arguments are moot.
fmcdave May 4, 2011, 08:12 PM If there was just one situation and a lot of empirical and scientific evidence; there would be but one pistol and one caliber. That isn't the case. I like Glocks, have several, but you already have a G23 so I'd keep the GP100. It looks like a nice revolver and I have many of them as well.
leadcounsel May 4, 2011, 08:30 PM I'm surprised more folks wouldn't take the Glock. No, the G23 is NOT a $200 gun. It's a $450 gun with about $50+ worth of ammo/accessories.
m1k3dasa1nt May 4, 2011, 08:45 PM Yeah...you already have the 23. Keep the Ruger
leadcounsel May 4, 2011, 10:43 PM Well, much against the advice of nearly everyone here, I traded away the GP100 6" blued for the G23 Gen4. Here it is and another picture along side of her little sister G23 Gen3.
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PabloJ May 4, 2011, 11:34 PM Yes. The GP100 is too large and heavy for the cartridge it's chamber for.
GLOOB May 5, 2011, 01:23 PM Not a single person would trade the revolver for the glock?
Oh, I was just making hypothetical arguments for and against. For me, personally, I'd trade.
But:
The Gen4 G23 is on my short list.
I do not own a G23 of any generation.
I do not get a police/military discount on Glocks, so my cost for a Gen4 Glock is a bit higher than for a GP100 in minty condition.
I don't like a full underlug on a 6" barrel, esp in a heavy .357.
dairycreek May 5, 2011, 01:31 PM A Glock for a 6" Rug
er? Absolutely not!!! Never ever!
Sulaco May 5, 2011, 02:48 PM Seems you already decided, but just to toss it out there, every gun I've gotten rid of in recent memory, I regret getting rid of. So for me, I am certain what I buy is first of all, what I want/need, and secondly, I don't get rid of them anymore.
daorhgih May 5, 2011, 02:58 PM ... own 4 G-s now, and reload for them and Love the whole G-series. But I would never trade that G- of yours for the revolver you mention. It takes an entirely different collection of mind-sets to use a revolver properly. You need both skills. Pass on the deal, I mean if both guns are up for sale. G- "improves Perfection" from time to time; the revolver you mention is already apexed, and just as dependable as any Glock. Dao.
leadcounsel May 5, 2011, 03:01 PM Well it was a tough decision. But I figured I'd just frankly get more use and value from the G23 (even though I have one already). I don't hunt, and I use a G35 (.40) for my HD handgun. The Ruger isn't practical to carry and is way too loud (.357) to shoot indoors without hearing protection for home defense. With the G23 I picked up a holster (actually one that will work well afterall) that is universal for most Glocks, $30 in ammo, and 3 more mags ... along with what appears to be a fine new G23...
Not feeling I need to justify it, but just fun to discuss it. Interesting that most folks would keep the Ruger.
mrbro May 5, 2011, 08:04 PM No.
DeepSouth May 5, 2011, 08:41 PM no!!
Are you insane?:eek:
jad0110 May 5, 2011, 08:49 PM Well, you already had one example of each (2 GPs and a G23), so really it is up to you. But I will say that "tough decisions" have a habit of coming back to haunt you, at least that is what I've experienced, even with ones I didn't think were that tough at the time. In some cases it can take years before the regret shows up. I'm just now starting to regret selling a 6" Taurus 66 .357 Mag from 5 years ago. I certainly hope you don't experience the same.
Honestly though, if you ever get to missing that 6" GP, you could always replace it with a completely different 6" .357, or any other revolver for that matter (6" S&W Model 19 .357, 3" Model 13 .357, 4" or 6" Ruger Six series, etc).
Fishman777 May 5, 2011, 09:05 PM I'd do it.
I am a Ruger revolver guy, but I'd do it.
If you can only have one handgun for defense, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
The Ruger is a great utility gun, but in a defense situation, you will not shoot as accurately with a long, heavy trigger pull. With only six shots, I think that Ruger is a decent defense gun, but not a good one.
The Ruger would probably be better as a woods carry gun, and certainly is a better hunting gun.
The Glock would be a better gun for defense because of the trigger and the capacity.
I personally would get a M&P pistol instead, but there is nothing wrong with the Glock. They are great guns as well.
bikemutt May 5, 2011, 09:20 PM I just traded into a G22 Gen 4, cost me an LCP and some cash, I have to say the G22 is a darn nice gun to shoot. But, we also own a GP100 which I love to shoot also. Knowing what I know now, I would not trade one for the other, I'd own them both.
leadcounsel May 6, 2011, 12:39 PM Well this has been a great discussion and I appreciate everyones' feedback!
As somone mentioned, I'd take the G23 over the Ruger in a defensive situation due to the capacity and frankly my higher level of training on a Glock platform over a revolver.
No doubt, they are both fantastic handguns. I'll admit this was a tough decision and I stewed on it for awhile. I hope I don't come to regret the trade.
Don357 May 8, 2011, 08:58 AM I hope the person you traded to at least bought you flowers and dinner before he ... ......well you know!
YOU GOT SCREWED!!!!
jad0110 May 8, 2011, 09:58 AM ^^^
Money wise, in my parts that was actually a very good deal (New G23 Gen IVs sell for mid to high 500s, and used 6" GPs go for $425 or so retail). Not sure if the OP had to put any $$$ into the trade or not though.
Still, I'd have personally kept the GP as I'm not a Glock guy, but that's me.
sniper5 May 8, 2011, 10:16 AM No. Nothing wrong with Glocks, but I bought my GP100 because it fits me and fits it's purpose. I would have bought a Glock if I wanted one.
LKB3rd May 8, 2011, 11:16 AM I wouldn't either.
Walking Dead May 8, 2011, 12:27 PM I wouldn't ever get rid of a gun. If you want a Glock go buy a Glock.
sixgunner455 May 8, 2011, 08:38 PM No way. No how. Not today or any other.
Glock's a decent gun, but I don't shoot'em more than about a magazine full before I'm tired of it. Trigger guard rubs against my finger. Hate that. A guy gave my buddy a Glock 17 last year. Just flat gave it to him. I'd take one under those conditions, or if I couldn't get anything else that was decent. The Glock is a good, reliable, rust proof gun. It's a $200-$300 gun that they sell for $550. My opinion, but there it is.
A 6" heavy framed .357 is very versatile. You can hunt, target shoot, put a scope on it and do silhouettes, shoot powder puff .38 Specials on up to extra heavy .357 without any adjustments to the gun, put it in a vertical shoulder holster and carry it under a coat. Very pleasant to shoot all day, and never chase brass, and never miss. Not missing counts for a lot more than a bunch of bullets, since somebody brought up the trigger and home defense. A nice, smooth double action trigger, or a super-sensitive, light single action on the same gun. Gotta love it.
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