Looking to get a CZ75B


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jcerillo70
May 4, 2011, 11:10 AM
Hey Guys,

Just a little background info. I have a Glock 34 (9mm) and a Springfield Loaded 1911 (45ACP). Love them both, especially the 1911.

In my search to fulfill my last permit i was looking at the G19 for a while. Held it, And loved it.

Then in my online search i came across the CZ75B. To my understanding, John Browning brought his design to them in 1975 and they made it even better. There were a few 1911 guys who i spoke to that changed their ways and went with the CZ instead.

Any info on this weapon that might influence my decision even more?

Thanks,
Jcerillo70

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verdun59
May 4, 2011, 11:58 AM
Where did you get that info about John Browning ????

mgmorden
May 4, 2011, 12:04 PM
Where did you get that info about John Browning ????

That was my first thought. Kinda hard for him to bring anything to anybody in 1975 considering that the man died in 1926 :).

jcerillo: I think you're confusing the CZ-75 with the Browning Hi Power (which it takes quite a few design cues from). Browning was developing the Browning Hi Power with Fabrique Nationale (FN) at the time of his death. Most design was finished by Dieudonne Saive before the gun went into production.

dcarch
May 4, 2011, 12:06 PM
Great gun, but Browning died in 1926. Josef and František Koucký were the designers of the pistol, although some people seem to think that the '75 is loosely based on the Browning High Power. I would happen to not be of that opinion, but there are some persons who think that the CZ design is related. The gun itself is great. Very accurate, and quite reliable. It fits my hand better than any of the Glocks ever have. It just wasn't designed by JMB. :D

Pilot
May 4, 2011, 12:26 PM
It just wasn't designed by JMB.


But the delayed recoil, locking mechanism was, and that is what the OP may have heard.

Most modern semi-auto pistol use this system including CZ, Glock, FN, modern HK's, 1911's, Sigs, etc.

yustinus1973
May 4, 2011, 12:44 PM
Good pistol love the fill of mine in my hands fun to shoot, used it for every thing in the five years iv had it, HD, CCW, range gun, plinker, truck gun, it can be any thing you want it to be and do it accurately, and reliably.

kesseret
May 4, 2011, 12:59 PM
We have a CZ75B and a CZ75BD. The BD is mine because my husband wouldn't let me stake a claim on his. (I also like the decocking feature)

I have very small hands (I am 5 feet tall and petite) and bad carpal tunnel so it's hard for me to open a drink bottle (horrible grip) but I have no issues with the CZ's we own. Thanks to shooting I've been regular on my carpal tunnel exercises to help grip!

I highly recommend one.

towboat_er
May 4, 2011, 01:00 PM
Its an awesome gun. Get one, you'll love it.

jcerillo70
May 4, 2011, 01:35 PM
Bad info on JMB lol i should have thought about that more.

I think im going to go to the shop tomorrow and play with one on the shelf.

JTQ
May 4, 2011, 01:52 PM
kesseret wrote,
We have a CZ75B and a CZ75BD. The BD is mine because my husband wouldn't let me stake a claim on his. (I also like the decocking feature)

I have very small hands (I am 5 feet tall and petite) and bad carpal tunnel so it's hard for me to open a drink bottle (horrible grip) but I have no issues with the CZ's we own.
With your small hands, do you have any trouble reaching the trigger, especially with the BD since you are limited to double action, for the first shot at least.

Trigger reach, in double action mode, on the CZ75B is an often reported problem for those with smaller hands.

Pilot
May 4, 2011, 02:21 PM
Trigger reach, in double action mode, on the CZ75B is an often reported problem for those with smaller hands.

Carrying and shooting from the half cock notch, which the gun is designed to do, should cure that. Carrying in Condition 1, cocked and locked, will also certainly cure that.

kesseret
May 4, 2011, 02:36 PM
With your small hands, do you have any trouble reaching the trigger, especially with the BD since you are limited to double action, for the first shot at least.

Trigger reach, in double action mode, on the CZ75B is an often reported problem for those with smaller hands.

Regarding the BD:
I have no issues reaching the trigger at all with my hands when it's DA at all.



Hope this helps!

schmeky
May 4, 2011, 02:57 PM
The long reach to the trigger in a DA first shot can be altered. The trigger can be moved rearward approximately 4.0mm's. Makes a big difference.

KodiakBeer
May 4, 2011, 02:57 PM
CZ is now offering the CZ75 SA. This is a single action pistol like the 1911 (or really, more like the Hi Power) with a short trigger reach and an excellent single action pull. It's going for under $500!

I'm in the process of buying another Hi Power, but once that is done I'm buying one of these CZ's.

http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/18383.jpg

http://www.impactguns.com/cz-75-b-sa-cal-9-mm-luger-black-polycoat-16-rd-mags-91150-806703911509.aspx

sixgunner455
May 4, 2011, 03:00 PM
Love my SA. It was made in 2000, so that's not really a new model, but it is a great one. The only 9mm I feel a need for besides it is a S&W3919 or 6906. The CZ is pretty big.

hanno
May 4, 2011, 03:05 PM
jcerillo70,

Get the CZ 75, you won't regret it. It is a well made, reliable and accurate pistol.

You might want to consider also buying a Kadet Kit for it so you can plink with .22 ammo. Since the Kadet Kit isn't considered a "firearm" it can be shipped directly to you.

My CZ 75 SA and Kadet Kit are always in my range bag.

Kadet Kit
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/kraut/CZ%2075%20and%20Kadet%20Kit/KadetKit-wood2.jpg

My CZ 75 SA with Kadet Kit
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/kraut/CZ%2075%20and%20Kadet%20Kit/SAKadetleft--.jpg

jcerillo70
May 4, 2011, 03:28 PM
If there an advantage between single action and the DA/SA?

lucky-gunner
May 4, 2011, 03:34 PM
I've been looking at getting a Kadet Kit but I keep buying full firearms instead.

I have a couple CZ pistols and even more clones. As far as 9mm pistols I've realized that the CZ is the pistol for me. I carry a Rami and do my 3 gun with a CZ 75.

I've never had any issues with mine and the grip is perfect for me. Try one out you'll be pleased.

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dcarch
May 4, 2011, 03:46 PM
A lot of people (myself included) think that the SAO trigger is cleaner and more crisp than the DA/SA trigger.

KodiakBeer
May 4, 2011, 03:55 PM
If there an advantage between single action and the DA/SA?

You get a much better trigger pull and a shorter trigger reach. The DA/SA trigger by its nature (in any model pistol) gives the SA trigger a lot of slack and take up. A single action only trigger is much more crisp.

The standard DA/SA trigger on a CZ is probably the best around, but any single action trigger will beat it.

CZF
May 4, 2011, 04:55 PM
The 75B is a gret to start your CZ collection.

Buy the Sa if you plan on carrying cocked and locked or using your CZ
for a range gun.



Best of luck with your eventual CZ purchase.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/czstim2.jpg
I'm sure it won't be your last CZ.


KEV

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/thanks2.jpg

BP Hunter
May 4, 2011, 05:32 PM
I had one before and had to sell it for financial reasons...and have regretted selling greatly.

It was one of my favorite 9mms. It was very accurate, the finish was excellent, it was very comfortable to shoot and was completley made of steel. It used to be my winter carry. I hope to buy another one in the future.

JohnGalt88
May 4, 2011, 05:41 PM
You are not the first nor the last to hear about how the CZ75 is some derivative or updated Hi-power. This seems to be a bit of internet hearsay that will not die. The pistols share nothing except the Browning locking mechanism.

This page gives a great comparison of the two.

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Browning%20and%20CZ.htm

armoredman
May 4, 2011, 06:01 PM
The 75B would be an excellent sidearm to start, definitely ditto on the Kadet Kit. If you get the B, just lower the hammer to the half cock - that's where it's supposed to ride. Have fun!

JTQ
May 4, 2011, 06:16 PM
If there an advantage between single action and the DA/SA?
I also prefer the thumb safety on the single action model.

To me, the DA/SA thumb safety is like a jelly bean split in half. It doesn't fall under my thumb as easy as a 1911 thumb safety or the CZ75SA model. I don't think it is as easy to engage/disengage as the single action's "shelf style" thumb safety.

KodiakBeer
May 4, 2011, 07:00 PM
Actually, if you look at the shape of the grip and frame, you see that at least in that respect the CZ is derivative of the Hi Power. That is largely cosmetic, but the ergonomics of both pistols are outstanding.

larryflew
May 4, 2011, 07:14 PM
+1 for great line of guns. Just had to let a few go and am down to 6 CZ's right now. My favorite range gun is a 75B. Also have a B with CT grips that is in the carry line up as is PCR.

jcerillo70
May 4, 2011, 11:24 PM
SA it is. I have a 15 rd mag limit here in NJ so ill have to order without the mags or find a low cap one online.

Thanks guys

armoredman
May 5, 2011, 12:09 AM
The older CZ mags are 15 rounders, so that shouldn't be too hard to track down.

1SOW
May 5, 2011, 01:02 AM
Just curious.

In NJ can you modify a 16rd mag to only hold 15 and be legal? It would be no different from puting a 'plug' in a shotgun to limit the capacity. It would be fairly easy to do with the 16 rd mags baseplate.

jcerillo70
May 5, 2011, 02:40 PM
In NJ can you modify a 16rd mag to only hold 15 and be legal? It would be no different from puting a 'plug' in a shotgun to limit the capacity. It would be fairly easy to do with the 16 rd mags baseplate.

Yes, but they wont ship the mags. The loophole is they have to be shipped "As parts" , And most dealers wont disassemble mags for you just to sell you a gun. So its something that i will have to get after the purchase. Time to move to PA!!!

SwampWolf
May 5, 2011, 03:33 PM
Before deciding whether you want a sa or da/sa pistol, you have to decide first in which configuration you feel most comfortable with and which method your level of training in terms of competency warrants if you plan on carrying it. Many people argue that a sa pistol carried "cocked and locked" (the preferred configuration if the pistol is intended for use in self-defense) requires more training to make this way of carrying as safe as possible (in other words, some find it a little less "forgiving" as compared to a traditional da pistol).

As CZF suggested, if your intended use for the pistol is primarily for range/target duties or if you plan on carrying the pistol cocked and locked, the sa mode does have a superior trigger pull.

jcerillo70
May 5, 2011, 07:31 PM
How about this

http://www.impactguns.com/cz-75-b-sa-custom-cal-9-mm-luger-special-features-16-rd-mags.aspx

CZ 75 B SA ''CUSTOM'' cal. 9 mm Luger, Special Features

Front Sight: Mepro-Light Tritium Night Sight
Rear Sight: Champion Extreme Duty Tritium Night Sight Machined Into Slide.
Custom Shop SA DA Hammer
Custom Shop Trigger Job
Internal Trigger Block Modifications for Smoother Action & Reset
Trigger Pull 3 to 3.5 Lbs
15Lbs Main (Hammer) Spring
14Lbs Recoil Spring
Polished Internals and Barrel Hood
Ultra Thin Hard Black Anodized Grips.
All guns test fired min 25 rounds and supplied with target.
-----

Still SA it seems per the description

jcerillo70
May 5, 2011, 07:32 PM
I wouldn't carry this, I would carry my 1911(In flordia) Cant carry in NJ...Thats why id like to go to PA

railroader
May 6, 2011, 12:05 AM
This guy sells mec-gar cz 16 round rebuild kits. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=191414 Another option is to get promag 15 round cz mags. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=111614&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Gunsmithing%20-%20Magazines%20-%20Pistol%20-%2011%2B%20Rounds-_-PriceCompListing-_-111614#productTabReviews I have a few of them that I have used for years. They feed fine. The springs care a tad on the light side but that can be fixed with a wolf springs upgrade. You could also get a cz75 compact. The mags for it are 14 rounders. I have both the 75 sa and the compact which is also sa now. Both shoot great.

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