Microstamping in NY


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Colt Smith
May 4, 2011, 08:29 PM
New York: Micro-Stamping Legislation Passes Assembly Committee



On May 3, Assembly Bill 1157 passed in the Assembly Codes Committee by a vote of 15 to 7 and will now head to the Assembly floor for consideration. Introduced by state Assemblyman Michelle Schimel (D-16), A1157 would mandate micro-stamping on all new semi-automatic pistols sold in New York after January 1, 2013.



A1157 would require all semi-automatic pistols delivered to any licensed firearms dealer in New York for sale after January 1, 2013, to mechanically stamp an alpha-numeric or geometric code that would identify the make, model and serial number onto the cartridge case when the gun is discharged. This bill would require models currently available to be redesigned by their manufacturers to have a micro-stamping component, which would vastly increase the cost of these firearms.

Micro-stamping is an unproven technology that is easily defeated with common household tools and the replacement of a few small parts. If passed, the availability of semi-automatic handguns in New York will be in serious doubt, as manufacturers simply may choose not to build or sell firearms for purchase in the state. Of course, that is the ultimate goal of this legislation. Make no mistake, this is a gun ban and it must be stopped.



Please, please, please contact your Assemblyman and respectfully ask him or her to OPPOSE A1157.

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zxcvbob
May 4, 2011, 08:34 PM
Best way to kill it is with an amendment so it does not exempt police guns.

Taurus 66
May 4, 2011, 09:38 PM
What does it all really amount to really? It's as dumb as the New Joke State politicians who thought of it. I would guess none of the New York politicians know any more about firearms than what Hollywood (or the media) shows them. So then what would give any of them the right to pass legislation on anything they likely know nothing about?

There has to be much more than what we see on the surface that meets the eye. Could it possibly be part of a plot on the national scale?

The state government is passing phony firearm legislation (probably unconstitutional in most cases) in an ever so slow, methodical method to eventually separate guns from the citizens altogether ..... BEWARE!

M-Cameron
May 4, 2011, 10:06 PM
gee.....im sure all those honest criminals bent on murder wont go so far as to file the number off the firing pin....because that would be illegal.......

now does this mean they are also going to pass laws making it illegal to pick up spent brass at a crime scene......or make it illegal to use a revolver in a crime..?......because im pretty sure both of those would render this law moot.

zxcvbob
May 4, 2011, 10:26 PM
They probably know the technology is not available, and that's the point. It's a de facto ban on semiautomatics.

Taurus 66
May 4, 2011, 11:26 PM
now does this mean they are also going to pass laws making it illegal to pick up spent brass at a crime scene......or make it illegal to use a revolver in a crime..?

No, the state will at present time be content with their newly passed bill.

Let's take for example the average law-abiding shooter going to his local range with his Colt AR-15. Let's say he spends off 500 rounds (under microstamp of course) then leaves without taking the brass with him. Someone else behind him (understanding enough about the law) has the same caliber rifle, and so decides it may be a great idea to 'gangsta shoot' in the streets then spread some of those microstamp casings around the crime scene. Who is at fault according to the crime scene??

The state must eventually capitulate and realize that their incompetency in passing bunk legislation is getting the better of them. They should seriously focus in anything (special schooling/talk groups/focus groups/internet sites) which may aid in building and maintaining an IQ above 85. Oh My God!!! what a SERIOUS ego booster it would be for a state official here to get a certificate for an IQ (sustained of course) at 86 or higher!!!!!

I'm so PO'ed at New Joke State, incase you haven't noticed lately.

bbuddtec
May 5, 2011, 12:02 AM
I will vote out who I can, but C. Crouch, my assemblyman, has been against this type of legislation from the start, and is a staunch advocate of RKBA. Thanks, Cliff!

AuthorityDenied
May 6, 2011, 12:33 AM
I have been in contact with my legislators from county level um to my congressman. I hope the NRA will give us some help on this one

Sevenfaces
May 6, 2011, 06:06 AM
Its also effortlessly defeated by simple capturing your bullet casings in a bag ala Mr. Brooks
or just using a revolver. What a worthless and backwards law. I hope you NYers dont have to deal with that.

buckfynn
May 9, 2011, 04:16 PM
Interesting! It is the first I have heard of micro-stamping a cartridge from a firearm. I hope the bill is defeated as tactics such as these tend to spread once they are started.

mbopp
May 9, 2011, 04:21 PM
One need to only look at Cobis, a useless 10-year old law that has cost $40 million dollars (plus indirect State Police costs) with zero returns. Everyone on this forum from NY should write their representatives about microstamping.

buckfynn
May 9, 2011, 04:48 PM
now does this mean they are also going to pass laws making it illegal to pick up spent brass at a crime scene......or make it illegal to use a revolver in a crime..?......because im pretty sure both of those would render this law moot.

Not to mention how it would affect a reloader with several firearms with the same caliber. I suppose they would ban reloading as well!? The micro-stamping law is totally asinine.

swiftak
May 9, 2011, 04:52 PM
Sad they don't realize how much money they are wasting in a state that is broke.

Librarian
May 9, 2011, 06:35 PM
We've already done this dance in California.

Folks in this thread and others have identified the technical problems.

You won't successfully attack the bill on those grounds.

Getting an amendment to cover police/LEO weapons would help, a little, but you'll be better off finding out who supposedly would supply the technology, and thereby who would profit from this bill, and tying that person to the proponents. Try to expose the corruption.

longknife12
May 11, 2011, 10:31 PM
Just remember, Pick up your Brass!
Dan

Millwright
May 15, 2011, 09:11 PM
Not so "dumb" as one might first suspect. Mfgs. are going to take a long look at sales volume vs cost of limited production on a per unit basis, and conclude giving up the market makes more financial sense than complying. Which pretty much achieves the objectives of the "banners" - without them being perceived as the direct cause....>MW

FIVETWOSEVEN
May 15, 2011, 10:40 PM
Give me 5 seconds and millions of dollars of research money goes down the drain.

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