Thoughts and opinions on 2 3/4 slugs vs 3 inch


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cyanide66
May 4, 2011, 11:49 PM
So i have been thinking more about what i actually want in my shotgun for combat shooting. i think that in the tube i want 2 3/4 00 buckshot, going with 2 3/4 so i can hold an extra round. For my side saddle i want to put 3 inch slugs. im thinking 3 inch slugs are the best because i'm only using them when i need to pop out a buckshot and put a slug in for a longer distance shot, so it wont affect my round count to have a 3 inch. So for my plans i see no downfall in going with 3 inch slugs, any thoughts or opinions on this so i can improve on what i'm doing? thanks.

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Fred Fuller
May 5, 2011, 12:58 PM
i see no downfall in going with 3 inch slugs

Shoot a box or two of 3" maggie numb slugs at one sitting and get back to me on that.

IMHO there is no downside to 2.75" slugs in a smoothbore gun. I shoot Brenneke KOs, the non-sabot full velocity version, and have for several years now. If I were going to take on 800 pound bears, then I would consider a superhard 3" slug, sure. But for thin skinned light boned varmints in the 150-250 pound range, a 2.75" KO will do anything that needs to be done, IF you will stick it where it needs to go. And I for sure wouldn't waste my time with a soft lead Foster type slug, 2.75" or 3". Slugs in a defensive gun are there for two purposes, IMHO - adding range if needed, and turning cover into concealment. A soft lead slug won't penetrate enough to do that.

JMHO,YMMV,

lpl

bigalexe
May 5, 2011, 01:18 PM
If you can't knock down your target with a 2 3/4" slug I'd wonder what you were shooting at!

Point being that slugs are huge, outside of maybe an elephant or a Yeti that is on methamphetamine I don't think there are many things that a 2 3/4" won't take care of just fine.

Rshooter
May 5, 2011, 01:30 PM
I used to load my defensive gun with 3" slugs. One afternoon I put about 5 boxes down range. As Lee says, you will change your mind. It also makes for faster follow up shots if necessary.

bubba in ca
May 5, 2011, 02:26 PM
Pop theory is that for HD slugs are for long distance. While that may work on some properties, on mine I have no likely shot more than the 40 meters that le132 will handle, so it is a non-issue to me. I do keep some slugs on hand but for a different reason--penetration, such as if the perp is behind something equivalent to a car door. Even then, the hardness of the lead would probably be much more important than the size of the shell.

RaceM
May 5, 2011, 02:39 PM
Wayull, instead of theorizing, why not do some real world testing? Blast holes in car doors, mock house walls/doors, etc. If the 2 3/4 slugs will get it done, no need for the threes. If neither does what you need, up the game to solid slugs instead of Fosters.

Dave McCracken
May 5, 2011, 08:14 PM
2 3/4" KO Brenekkes usually exit on broadside shots on MD whitetails.

I've had 36" of penetration with 2 3/4" Rottweil Brenekkes on similar deer.

I really doubt 3" versions would haver shortened the blood trails.

Gordon
May 5, 2011, 08:42 PM
I HAVE used 2 3/4" Rotweil Brennekes sucessfully on Eastern White Tail deer for many years.
I WOULD use hard 3" slugs if in big bear country and a SG was "it".
I DO use and like Managed Recoil Remington LE 2 3/4" slugs for SD and HD, heck maybe for CQB!

cyanide66
May 6, 2011, 12:14 AM
Thanks for all the info everyone, lots of good input :-). And as someone said, i really do need to go practice more with my system. ^_^

Navy_Guns
May 9, 2011, 01:58 PM
Not to jump into the terminal ballistics side of this discussion, but I found a big difference in 2 3/4" versus 3" loads in accuracy. This was specifically in an H&R rifled UltraHunter with a 3" chamber using Lyman slug handloads. The 3" loads gave me much tighter groups at 100 yards than the 2 3/4" loads. I suspect the longer unsupported jump to the throat/rifling was the issue with the shorter hulls.

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