Scoped rifle loaded with stripper clips? possible??


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Ogre
January 13, 2004, 07:38 AM
HEY
Is it possible to cut a stripper clip loading port in, for example a Rem 700 or Win 70? So that the rifle can be loaded with stripper clips while the scope is mounted in the normal over breech position??

Don't want to use quick release mounts because I don't trust em. They may work great for others but for me no thanks.

After the Aussie 7.62 surplus post. I looked at my M700 SA and the stripper clips from the bandeleer mentioned and thought if I could machine a slot in the rear bridge infront of where the first cam surface is I might be able to slip the stripper in past the scope knobs, down into the action on an angle strip it out and extract.

What do you guys think??

Looked at my model 70 action with out the magazine walls in and there is a metal projection near the rear of the action that might make a good base point for the 30/06 stripper clip to bottom against and allow me to push the rounds in.

Could this work??

Is the any other way I can use stripper clipd to load scope sited BA rifles that are not built as scout rifles??

thanks and later
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Richardson
January 13, 2004, 09:12 AM
I don't see how it would work.

I do have a scope mount that allows the scope to be flipped off to the side, which would allow for using a stripper clip (originally it was to allow for a scope mounted close to the barrel which could be moved out of the way of the iron sights. Unfortunately, it's out of production.

I began reverse engineering this mount, and could probably design and manufacture it, if there was a significant market.

Richardson

hksw
January 13, 2004, 12:26 PM
Hmm. Charging from an angle doesn't sound like a good idea to me. But, it is your rifle.

Vern Humphrey
January 13, 2004, 12:36 PM
It's a lot easier to cut metal off a rifle than it is to cut it back ON if the experiment fails.

Consider this -- military sniper rifles with scopes mounted over the receiver don't use stripper clips. There has to be a reason for this.:D

Sunray
January 13, 2004, 02:03 PM
You can do anything with enough time and money. Let's use yours. Call it $1,000 USD for a scoped Rem 700. Add $50 per hour of R&D, machining etc. Figure another grand or so. What would you have? A hunting rifle you may or may not be able to load with stripper clips. What would you be hunting using .30-06 that requires rapid reloading? Not only is it not feasible, it's a waste of time and money.

Penman
January 13, 2004, 03:31 PM
There are high power target shooters who have their bolt actions modified to take stripper clips, but they are using aperture sights. You might try looking for a Pachmayr Lo-Swing scope mount. not sure if the angled position would work. If a low magnification scope would work, get a Scout Rifle mount and put the scope forward of the receiver.

another48hrs
January 13, 2004, 03:56 PM
I don't really know anything, but maybe this link may help.

http://www.tacticalstocks.com/Clipslotting.htm

artherd
January 13, 2004, 04:33 PM
Get a DM 700. Time and field tested.

Langenator
January 13, 2004, 04:50 PM
Stripper clips would work just fine if you used a scout-style scope mount. Not sure if any of the major makers offer rifles tapped for that kind of mount though.

critter
January 13, 2004, 06:35 PM
How 'bout a custom made rifle based on a M-98 Mauser action (already has stripper clip guide) and put a side-mount scope on it kind of like the old top eject 94 winchesters?

Dave Markowitz
January 13, 2004, 07:29 PM
The Germans actually experimented with something along these lines during WW2. In Peter R. Senich's The German Sniper 1914 - 1945 , there is a picture of a Kar98k with the charger guide machined into the receiver about 45 degrees to the right of where it would be normally. They never put it into mass production though.

Another alternative would be to locate one of the old Pachymar swing over mounts. It allows you to rotate the scope to the left, clearing the top of the action. Once you're loaded back up you'd swing the scope back over. I don't know how rugged this is, and I think it was probably intended to allow you to use the irons in case your scope went belly up.

Slingster
January 13, 2004, 07:51 PM
Easy. Use a forward mounted Scout scope that leaves the action clear.

SMLE
January 13, 2004, 08:18 PM
One probelm you're overlooking. Even IF you got an offset scope mount, the commerical rifles you mentioned have no provision for clip loading, and their actions are made so that you'd have to ADD the clip guide rather than cutting one. Now if you're working with a sporterized mil-surp, that's a different story.

The M1C and M1D sniper variants of the Garand, used offset scopes, as did the WWI sniper versions of the Lee Enfield. The WWII versions of the LE did not, nor did the 1903A4.

The "Scout" rifle, with the scope mounted in front of the action might be a better solution.

Sven
January 14, 2004, 01:27 AM
Scout scope.

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