H&R Handi Rifle extractor???


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x_wrench
May 7, 2011, 10:15 PM
i own a handi rifle in 223 remington. it is the bull barrel model, if that matters. i am having trouble with it extracting shells. it is just luck of the draw if it will, or will not extract a fired shell casing. it always extracts factory unfired, or full length sized unfired ammo. but if i am using neck sized ammo, or touch one off, then there is no way of knowing if it will extract a spent shell or not. this has happend several times at the range. there, it is not such a big deal, because i always have a cleaning rod with me, just in case something happens. but if i am in the feild, and it has happened, it can be a long trek back to the truck just to get a spent shell out of the chamber. it has ended a couple of hunts. i tore it down yesterday, and thouroughly cleaned it out. i also took a honing stone, and broke ALL the edges everywhere except the contact point of the cartridge case. i also dug through my spring assortment, and installed longer and stiffer springs. i reinstalled everything, and shot it down with a coating of aresol "super lube". no luck. it does exactly the same thing. i also tried synthetic gun oiling of the parts, same thing. the extractor grabs onto the shell, but it will not pull it out of the chamber. does anybody have a trick up their sleve to cure this? is there a fix from the factory? its a hoot to hunt with, but i have had it with hiking back to the truck to remove a spent shell. so if i can not get this fixed, i will have to make this a range gun only. it seems to me that i saw a post somewhere about oil in the chamber causing trouble. i have tried this both ways. in fact, to extremes. from totally dry (brake cleaner soaked patches, then blown dry) to sloppy wet. once the shell is fired, it is still luck of the draw.

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FROGO207
May 8, 2011, 09:48 AM
You might try the trick of covering the casing with black magic marker and firing it. Don't forget to put an indexing mark on the head for reference. Then when it is removed look for scratches on the casing and find out if polishing or reaming will be needed. I had this problem in a Ruger BH in 30 carbine caliber and a thorough polishing of the offending areas in each chamber was all that I needed to do. The empties mostly fall out now, hardly ever need to use the ejector rod.:D BTW I have the same model and think that it is one of my most accurate 223's.

Note also that the extractor is just that not an ejector like on the earlier models. I once traded off one in 22 Hornet cause I lost so much brass.

gunplumber
May 9, 2011, 05:50 PM
I have repaired some of these with heavier springs, polishing the chamber to 800 grit after a good cleaning then applied Microlon (Gunjuice) from Brownells to the chamber (apply 4 times and dry with heat). These guns don't come with ejectors anymore but extractors only in an appempt to solve this very problem.

EMC45
May 10, 2011, 02:31 PM
Yup, got a 45-70 with ejector (will lob them into the next county) and a .233 with an extractor. I have seen this problem with another .223 and .243. It was a chamber issue. A little rough and it will cause headaches.

klutchless
May 18, 2011, 08:31 PM
Had the same problem with my 308 try wrapping a piece of 800 grit sandpaper over a dowl rod and working it back and forth in the chamber to smooth it up a bit. It worked on mine.

x_wrench
May 19, 2011, 07:58 AM
well, i guess i am going to try polishing the chamber. i will be using a die grinder, with a peice of steel rod chucked inot it. the rod has a slot in the end, so i can put what ever sanding paper i want into it. then i just cut a peice, wrap it around the rod, and hit the air. as the speed comes up, the centrifical force centers the rod. all that ever touches anything will be the sand paper. i will start with 400, then progress to 1000. if that does not do it,maybe i will take the extractor right out, and make a tool to pry the shell out. using a rod down the barrel is very inconveinient.

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