Sanitizing guns


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ChCx2744
May 8, 2011, 03:31 PM
This may be an odd question to most, but it had me pondering after reading a post about someone dropping thier gun into poop. Us gun owners handle and touch guns with our bare hands on a regular basis. Sometimes, we may even accidentally place or drop them into very dirty places. We all know that the human hand is one of the dirtiest, bacterial surfaces in existance. Over all the years of hand touching, have you ever thought about applying disinfectant sprays or wipes? Do you think this will damage the plastics, woods or metal alloys of the gun? Would you rather just leave it the way it is and wash your hands after each time you touch a gun? Am I just being a girly germaphobe? Jokes are welcome btw :D

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Sunray
May 8, 2011, 03:38 PM
"...a girly germaphobe..." Yep.
Disinfectant sprays or wipes won't bother the steel, but they might bother the finish on wood. Most of 'em are alcohol based. Alcohol isn't good for polyurethane.

Black Butte
May 8, 2011, 03:41 PM
Ask Mljdeckard, he has first-hand experience with this:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7297946#post7297946

mljdeckard
May 8, 2011, 03:45 PM
I actually thought about it,

The only cooties on my gun are my cooties. I think that making some effort to toothbrush out the grime that builds up in places like the recesses between the grips and the frame is most of what you can do to keep it clean. Microbes don't stay long if there's nothing for them to grow in.

THe Dove
May 8, 2011, 03:59 PM
Bacteria needs (food, moisture, correct temperature and time) to reproduce...... But cleaning a weapon after being in the bowels of a latrine has to be at the bottom of my list of things to do!!!!!!

The Dove

cyclopsshooter
May 8, 2011, 04:16 PM
no worse than the dollars in your pocket

buck460XVR
May 8, 2011, 04:18 PM
I thought about this last fall after shooting a nice Tom. Carried him in one hand whilst the shottie was in the other. Due to his weight I changed hands every 100 yards or so on the way back to the truck. Once back at the truck, I noticed he had been scratchin' in fresh manure at some point before he was shot. This meant both my hands and my gun(besides his feet) were covered with cow poop. Since I always have anti-bacterial wipes in my hunting pack, I cleaned my hands before touching the steering wheel, but the gun I just wiped down and left outside in the below freezing temps to kill any bacteria. Funny, this spring after taking my first bird I noticed there was still a few dried remnants on the ribbed forearm. Talk about custom camo!

al123
May 8, 2011, 04:24 PM
...but it had me pondering after reading a post about someone dropping thier gun into poop. ...


If somehow your firearm were completely enveloped in c@-c@, I would strip it down as far as I competently can, then douse it with mineral spirits, followed by lightly lubricating per the manufacturer's directions.

Frankly I'd do the same if the weapon were dropped in a bucket of Chanel No. 5 :neener: .

To me guns are always dirty after use. Unless one was using the muzzle as an ice cream scooper, I'd be more concern about possible corrosion then any microbial or malodorous contamination. :p

Squatting Bear
May 8, 2011, 04:46 PM
Most STD's are not a threat after a short while because they desiccate (dry out) very quickly. That's partly why you don't get STD's from some nasty toilet seats.

Now, for something like E.coli, I would take off any wood/plastic and drop the metal into a bucket of alcohol. Leave it there for 45 minutes. Re-lube very well after.

Another option would be to disassemble, clean off all grease and crud, and expose to a UV light. This would stop any bacteria from replicating.

I stand ready to be corrected :)

1894
May 8, 2011, 05:39 PM
So... washing my hands with Hoppe's #9 before eating won't kill all the germs on them???

teumessian_fox
May 8, 2011, 06:16 PM
So... washing my hands with Hoppe's #9 before eating won't kill all the germs on them???

Nope. To kill the germs you've ingested you have to drink it.

9mmepiphany
May 8, 2011, 07:01 PM
...and some folks laugh when I suggest cleaning your pistols with 97% Isopropyl Alcohol ;)

The surface most likely to retain crud are checkered wood grips...wood is porous and much checkering isn't completely sealed (nor are the underside or screw holes of the panels). If you are concerned enough to wipe down a gun, you should minimally take off the grips before you do. If there was completely immersion, no matter for how short a period, it is detail strip and soaking in alcohol.

This reminds me of a class I took , for First Responders, in how to deal with biological contamination. The suggestion is that officers should use Glock pistols as their duty guns as it was less expensive to throw them away after :eek:

Good&Fruity
May 8, 2011, 07:08 PM
pondering after reading a post about someone dropping thier gun into poop.

lol, REALLY? Link?

youngda9
May 8, 2011, 07:08 PM
I don't worry about germs...that's for other's to be concerned with. I have bigger things on my mind.

Demarko
May 8, 2011, 07:21 PM
MRSA can live up to 90 days on a surface, and people can be unwitting carriers. If there's an outbreak in your area, disinfecting might not be a bad idea - especially if, for whatever odd reason, someone else has been handling your weapon. Of course, if you're an unwitting carrier, you'd just re-infect it the next time you touched it, but that's a whole other problem you've got then.

I imagine a porta-john or something similar (gas station bathroom floor!) is just a breeding ground for it.

InkEd
May 8, 2011, 07:21 PM
SPRAY IT WITH LYSOL THEN SOME BREAKFREE CLP, YA' BUNCHA BABIES.

If it was an issue weapon like the aforementioned port-a-potty model, that's a different story.

NavyLCDR
May 8, 2011, 07:22 PM
I wonder if there is a market for "anti-bacterial" Hoppes #9?

SASS50566
May 8, 2011, 07:29 PM
I work in a gun store. I also sell a lot of binoculars. It did not take very long looking at customers hands with open sores before I started carrying a small bottle of hand sanitizer. I have to wonder how many of the sores I was looking at contained something contagious.

1894
May 8, 2011, 07:44 PM
I'll take my beating now for not initially taking this thread seriously.

/Rant
But, everyone should be washing their hands & face, etc after range sessions anyway. If not for germs, at least for lead, oils, lubricants, etc. This hobby of ours has many dangers. We wear hearing and eye protection for goodness' sake. Why? Because we think it's fun to hold a machine in our hands that is suppose to control and direct an explosion.

I don't know about you, but I know everyone who touches my firearms. We're talking about tools that cost anywhere from a couple hundred dollars to several thousand (not mine, I ain't that rich - just sayin). Anyone know a mechanic who lets his Snap On Torque wrench disappear into unknown hands?
/Rant Off

If I can't kill it, and Hoppe's can't kill it...

InkEd
May 8, 2011, 07:49 PM
Yeah, I do actually keep a little thingof hand sanitized in my bag.

WNTFW
May 8, 2011, 07:52 PM
I personally am going til wait until I drop my gun in poop before worrying about.

Before that I will mostly be in prevention mode and give poop a wide berth.

punkndisorderly
May 8, 2011, 08:01 PM
We had a guy in our unit go through the rotten plywood floor of one of the latrines out in one of the training area. Took a while to get him out, we were laughing so hard. Funny thing is, once he got out, the chief asks him "Where's your rifle", the guy looks back at the latrine and frowns. Chief had him go back in for the rifle.

vaherder
May 8, 2011, 08:28 PM
Bleach good ole straight bleach kills most germs etc. Even diluted bleach works. I forget the proportions.

Now according to the first aid manuals in an emergency with nothing else available urine can be used to disinfect wounds. I sort of remember this from Boy Scouts and late learned again in other training.

Guardrail
May 8, 2011, 11:34 PM
My germs, my gun. I know where my hands have been.

Toforo
May 8, 2011, 11:40 PM
There's some GOOD info here -

- then there's the other info.

:what:

ChCx2744
May 9, 2011, 03:24 AM
lol, REALLY? Link?

Black Butte posted it already.

CZguy
May 9, 2011, 06:04 AM
So... washing my hands with Hoppe's #9 before eating won't kill all the germs on them???

No, but it will make you smell good.

Shadow 7D
May 9, 2011, 03:26 PM
I would think live steam, or a nice duck in alcohol, or even a boil in some oil would all do the job. And after a nice boil in some I bet it would be nicely lubed.

MachIVshooter
May 9, 2011, 03:27 PM
Food for thought.........

I only wash my hands when I'm either sure I've handled something with which ingestion should be avoided at all costs, or when it's both convenient and occurs to me. I have no problem eating with automotive ick all over my hands or immediately after gutting a game animal, don't see any problem with the 10 second rule (except for obvious contamination), rarely wash up before meals.

I have good hygiene, just don't worry much about germs. I've been sick 3 times in the last decade, only one of which I missed a half day of work.

My sister is about the same way. She also happens to be a PhD microbiologist specializing in infectious disease.

MRSA can live up to 90 days on a surface, and people can be unwitting carriers. If there's an outbreak in your area, disinfecting might not be a bad idea - especially if, for whatever odd reason, someone else has been handling your weapon. Of course, if you're an unwitting carrier, you'd just re-infect it the next time you touched it, but that's a whole other problem you've got then.

Staphyloccocus Aureus (Staph) is literally everywhere, just doesn't affect most healthy people. It even lives on your own skin (what do you think causes zits?). It's really only dangerous when it gets into deep wounds, which is why it's such a common post trauma or post surgical infection. Methicillin Resistant Staph (MRSA) is also quite common in hospitals, where that is the most common teatment for regular staph. It's not that big a deal unless it goes untreated. When you really have to worry is with Vancomycin Resistant Staph (VRSA). It's very rare, but often does a great deal of damage before being correctly diagnosed. Vanco is a very heavy duty broad spectrum antibiotic for gram positive bacteria (among other things), and when it doesn't work, you've got problems.

I wouldn't worry too much about contracting necrotizing bacterial infections from you firearm, though.

bruzer
May 9, 2011, 03:38 PM
Just "Shoot the Crap" out of your guns. They sterilize themselves that way. Haha
Mike

Fleet
May 9, 2011, 03:50 PM
I can't believe this thread exists.

Nashanthra
May 9, 2011, 04:14 PM
I blame, Mljdeckard, his thread and this sub-thread has had me laughing in my cube all day. Thanks guys

Mt Shooter
May 9, 2011, 04:21 PM
lol, REALLY? Link?


here ya go




http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=591692

ChCx2744
May 9, 2011, 09:07 PM
Fleet said:
I can't believe this thread exists.

Hahahahaha well, sometimes my curiosity is contagious :D

joed
May 10, 2011, 02:46 PM
The best way to disinfect a gun is to put it in the shower using dish soap and salt. Let it sit for a day or two, no germs!

sixgunner455
May 10, 2011, 02:59 PM
I had a knee-jerk reaction to the title - where I'm from, sanitized guns have no markings on them ... this is much more entertaining! :D

Don't drop your gun in the terlet, and you won't get no poop on'er.

dagger dog
May 10, 2011, 05:38 PM
Maybe you can find some disposable paper gloves, you know something like the paper sanitizers you place on the toilet lid in those classy joints!:D

CZguy
May 10, 2011, 09:08 PM
something like the paper sanitizers you place on the toilet lid in those classy joints!


I think that the technical term for those is a*s gasket. :D

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