BBQ Guns - Myth or Reality?


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bushmaster1313
May 8, 2011, 04:15 PM
Up here in New Jersey :barf: we do have BBQ's, but it would be illegal to bring any handgun, purdy or not. :cuss:
And even if it were legal, most here would call the cops anyways :banghead:.

Do people in free states like Texas really take fancy side arms in fancy open holsters to BBQ's?

What is the etiquette?

Does the host say: "Bring your guns"?

Are they loaded? (seems to be a very bad idea if they will be unholstered or passed around)

Do you walk in to the house wearing the rig?

Do you drive in the car (or walk to the house) wearing the rig?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Thank you

Lou

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Big Boy
May 8, 2011, 05:42 PM
It's just like open carrying everyday....you just do it with a fancy gun.

Rembrandt
May 8, 2011, 05:47 PM
...What is the etiquette?....(seems to be a very bad idea if they will be unholstered or passed around)

My understanding is that BBQ guns are like a clothing accessory....sort of like belt buckles and boots, no need to pass them around for audience approval. Besides, wouldn't be proper to get BBQ sauce and greasy fingers all over it.

Black Butte
May 8, 2011, 05:55 PM
wouldn't be proper to get BBQ sauce and greasy fingers all over it

Now which gun would go with a spicy barbeque sauce?

General Geoff
May 8, 2011, 06:20 PM
It's just like open carrying everyday....you just do it with a fancy gun.

That about covers it. :)

CapnMac
May 8, 2011, 06:28 PM
Well, until we correct the o/c situation in Texas, a BBQ gun is probably a court gun, too.

And, traditionally, it's not a proper court gun unless a trustee hand-made and detailed the holster.

1894
May 8, 2011, 06:29 PM
OK, so what's the impression given if you don't own anything fancy and show up with nothing more than a GP100 or USP? Seriously not trying to start trouble, but my attitude (possibly b/c of financial ability) has always been function over fashion.

General Geoff
May 8, 2011, 06:32 PM
An all-business gun is not something to be ashamed of at an event like a barbecue. It's just an optional "If you got it, flaunt it" sort of thing; like pulling up in your garage-kept Ferrari. :)

9MMare
May 8, 2011, 06:40 PM
We did it for Xmas here. For once it was a nice day and we were outside too. Had the firepit going, 50 degrees, dry.

'Bring yer gun, we're goin' shootin' in the morning' then BSing around the fire and dinner table later.

It was a lovely day.

9MMare
May 8, 2011, 06:42 PM
OK, so what's the impression given if you don't own anything fancy and show up with nothing more than a GP100 or USP? Seriously not trying to start trouble, but my attitude (possibly b/c of financial ability) has always been function over fashion.

That's what I did, only had the one gun at the time, S&W M&P. Folks liked it, LOVED the Crimson Trace laser grip.

Patriotme
May 8, 2011, 06:46 PM
I've never been to an open carry BBQ before but I went to a cookout a few years ago hosted by a gun rights organization. Great people and great food. It did seem as if everyone was bringing their nicest guns and best holsters. We were at a local park and the guns were open carried but the gun rights organization stressed that no weapons were to leave the holster at this event. No show and tell. We got a few looks from other people at the park but they probably thought it was law enforcement or something.

THE DARK KNIGHT
May 8, 2011, 06:49 PM
There is no permit requirement to carry a gun, concealed or open (NJ makes no distinction between the two) on your own property, place of business, or land you own.

If you had a BBQ at your house, you're more than able to walk around your yard with a gun on you.

If you have family/friends over that would call the cops on you over that, than that is a different story. The cops would have no grounds for arrest. Though you'd still get arrested anyway if they came.

earlthegoat2
May 8, 2011, 06:53 PM
Once again, some BBQ gun (and court gun) insights:

http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2006/03/court-guns-and-bbq-guns.html

9mmepiphany
May 8, 2011, 07:17 PM
I been to a couple in CA and in other states

In CA, on private property (someones backyard) the guns usually stay in the holster. If there is a specific show and tell session (usually in the den), it is only with the homeowner approval and all ammo is removed and set in another room. I have also attended a public function with an unloaded gun openly carried...this is legal in CA (you can even have a loaded mag on your belt)...but it was really a political statement function.

I like to bring something special when attending a private function. It doesn't have to be pimped out or covered in bling, or even engraved, but something not commonly seen seems appropriate.

I've carried things like a 6" Colt Python or a 8.375" S&W M27. Fancy grips are pretty much expected and something unusual like a long slide H&K P7 or Vektor CP-1 is rather cool (for BSG fans)
http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/handguns/south_africa/1287733743.jpg

Holster in exotic materials like shark or elephant are nice to look at

What is the etiquette?
The homeowner will usually indicate if he wants the guns unloaded and that will usually dictate the availability of alcohol. I've seen folks bring guns in cases, put them on for the BBQ and lock them up before having their designated driver take them home.

Folk should not mix alcohol consumption and guns...it just isn't very responsible

Unistat
May 8, 2011, 07:31 PM
No urban legend at all. We do UFC Fight Nights, not BBQs but still, everyone will bring out their new babies to show off.

hso
May 8, 2011, 07:55 PM
We do here in TN if it is a group of gunnies.

InkEd
May 8, 2011, 08:03 PM
I would really hate to live in state that doesn't allow you to carry a gun on your own property. You can wear a plain gun like a like your everday ccw but expect to get the same looks as a guy in 2004 Camry at classic car show. You'll be welcomed and enjoy it but it's more fun if you have something to show. It doesn't have to a custom piece BUT a nice production gun like a Stainless Vaquero or AT LEAST some nice looking grips will earn you alot of cool points. As much as I like polymer duty guns, they are the least impressive thing to bring to an open carry BBQ. (If that's all you have it's okay.)

Hagen442
May 8, 2011, 08:32 PM
"BBQ Guns" Dress Guns with Dress Leather. (Cowboy Church Wear)
All the Invitations I have received are for a Outside Cookout
(With or Without a Chuck Wagen)
Dress Code: Barbcue Rig and Cowboy Clothes (SASS) . (Unloaded Guns-No Live Ammo)

Hagen
Dodge City, North Carolina

Balrog
May 8, 2011, 08:38 PM
The BBQ gun is just something Texans talk about, like drinking water out of a hoof print.

bushmaster1313
May 8, 2011, 08:58 PM
I would really hate to live in state that doesn't allow you to carry a gun on your own property.

In NJ we can carry on our own guns on our own property, but not to someone else's property or on someone else's property.

Strange but true

Red Cent
May 8, 2011, 09:00 PM
Yeah, Hagen!!

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/redcent69/Handguns/ColtSAA002.jpg

TexasRifleman
May 8, 2011, 09:08 PM
The BBQ gun is just something Texans talk about, like drinking water out of a hoof print.

Nah, I know lots of people who have and wear BBQ guns now and then. I wear mine several times a year to events.

Do people in free states like Texas really take fancy side arms in fancy open holsters to BBQ's?
What is the etiquette?
Does the host say: "Bring your guns"?
Are they loaded? (seems to be a very bad idea if they will be unholstered or passed around)
Do you walk in to the house wearing the rig?
Do you drive in the car (or walk to the house) wearing the rig?

Yes some people do wear them to cookouts.

The etiquette is that you are going to be with "like minded" folks. If you have to ask if you should wear it, you probably shouldn't. You will just know.

Of course they are loaded. There's no passing them around, they stay holstered unless something bad happens.

Usually these events happen on private land with private driveways so it's fine to wear it to the door.

Mine is a stainless 1911 in 10mm riding in a Tucker holster with a nice Texas star concho attached.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/texasrifleman2/1911.jpg

bushmaster1313
May 8, 2011, 09:09 PM
Life is too short to argue with stupid people and drink cheap booze.

Or not to shoot your best guns

9MMare
May 8, 2011, 09:28 PM
Nah, I know lots of people who have and wear BBQ guns now and then. I wear mine several times a year to events.



Yes some people do wear them to cookouts.

The etiquette is that you are going to be with "like minded" folks. If you have to ask if you should wear it, you probably shouldn't. You will just know.

Of course they are loaded. There's no passing them around, they stay holstered unless something bad happens.

Usually these events happen on private land with private driveways so it's fine to wear it to the door.

Mine is a stainless 1911 in 10mm riding in a Tucker holster with a nice Texas star concho attached.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/texasrifleman2/1911.jpg

Handsome!

In my (limited) experience, if people want to handle, view, admire, etc they retire to a separate area, unload, all check that unloaded, etc. The 4 rules are still followed...guns are never pointed at anything not to be killed. But they have been smaller groups, no more than 5 or 6 involved.

THE DARK KNIGHT
May 8, 2011, 09:58 PM
I would really hate to live in state that doesn't allow you to carry a gun on your own property.

Good, because there is no such place in the USA anyway.

bushmaster1313
May 8, 2011, 10:05 PM
Quote:
I would really hate to live in state that doesn't allow you to carry a gun on your own property.

Good, because there is no such place in the USA anyway.

I have wondered if I could get nabbed for brandishing when I take my gun into the backyard to photograph it in sunlight.

SaxonPig
May 8, 2011, 10:31 PM
My wife's boss (a lawyer, BTW) invited about 15 people to his hunting cabin a couple months ago. Cabin? It's a 3 bedroom home on 400 acres he owns. Has a bunkhouse out back that can sleep 20 extra quests.

He did not specifically say to bring any guns but I know this guy. Those 400 acres are his private hunting reserve. I took along a couple pistols (including my BBG) and he broke out a 22 rifle and an M1 Carbine.

Everybody did some shooting, including folks who had never held a gun before. They had a hoot.

Here's what I took along. The S&W is my BBG.


http://www.fototime.com/E7A682FB2F73E94/standard.jpg


http://www.fototime.com/B787D1D0E475793/standard.jpg

InkEd
May 8, 2011, 10:32 PM
Just say you thought you heard a black bear tearing into your shed.

Also, I think you would be okay having one in your own back yard (with a fence), unless you are the kind of host that like to call the cops on your own invited guests.

InkEd
May 8, 2011, 10:35 PM
SaxonPig, that S&W is NICE! (Classy too.) What kind of holster to you carry it in?

SharpsDressedMan
May 8, 2011, 11:12 PM
I don't know when it started, but my brother and I started wearing our ivory gripped 1911's at our folk's house for "the Holidays". Both were staunch democrats, but always supported the 2nd Amdmt. It became tradition to see us armed, and we have followed with BBQ's in the same armed fashion. Since most of our friends are gun enthusiasts, cops, or both, it is not unusual to see a bunch of us armed, and rec shooting on the back 50 (yards) is also part of the holiday tradition. Once entertained a few Russian teenagers on student exchange to a Labor day shoot. They were thrilled, as shooting guns for fun is not available so much in Russia.

bushmaster1313
May 8, 2011, 11:13 PM
Then they would really be on me.

Decorated WWII combat vet in these parts got charged with animal cruely for batting with a shovel a rat that was acting agressive in the yard.

No bringing a gun to a BBQ here, although when friends are at my house I can show them my guns.

newbuckeye
May 8, 2011, 11:29 PM
The day my daughter gets married there will be guns present!

9MMare
May 9, 2011, 12:13 AM
The day my daughter gets married there will be guns present!

Wow, how ugly is she?



I'm just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

Bruno2
May 9, 2011, 01:59 AM
The only fancy guns I have are O/U s . They would be impractical at most BBQs. If I didnt have a pretty enough sidearm I would go concealed. Just to not rock the boat.

crm7290
May 9, 2011, 02:05 AM
newbuckeye- hopefully it wont be a shotgun wedding!

lizziedog1
May 9, 2011, 08:02 AM
BBQ's?

Weddings?

What about funerals?

What is your favorite carry gun at funerals?:D

SaxonPig
May 9, 2011, 08:46 AM
InkEd- Here's the whole rig including the Buck automatic. Leather is from El Paso Saddlrey. Engraving is by Michael Gouse of Montana. I don't know who made the ivory stocks.


http://www.fototime.com/66E22516E5B6A38/standard.jpg

USAF_Vet
May 9, 2011, 09:44 AM
Every labor day, my extended family puts on a BBQ get together. The festivities are kicked off with Adults on the trap/ skeet range, then rifle and pistols competitions.

Those who aren't at the range shooting try to distract us with a water balloon launcher.

After the adults are done, the youngun's get a shot at the range, with adult supervision of course.

No drinking allowed when the guns are out, but once the guns get put away, the BBQ starts. Lots of fun and an excellent way to finish off the summer.

effengee
May 9, 2011, 10:02 AM
I just carry my normal carry gun to BBQ's and everywhere else that's allowed by my constitutionally protected right... hehehe yeah rightbarf:
I hate having to transfer in the parking lot of the post office.

In years past that was a S&W .38 Police Special, Walther PPK/S, Makarov, Taurus .357 snubby, and finally a Colt Commander.

I usually carry concealed unless we are going to be shooting at the BBQ, then it's a shoulder or hip holster...

If I had the money to spare, I'd love to show up with a real WW2 era 1911 hanging from a vintage pistol belt...

CraigC
May 9, 2011, 10:20 AM
That is a fine example of a BBQ gun! Ivory, engraving, floral carved leather, the whole package.

http://www.fototime.com/66E22516E5B6A38/standard.jpg

45Fan
May 9, 2011, 10:26 AM
I guess the friends I hang out with are a little backwards in the BBQ gun area. We get together from time to time specifically to shoot and show off the newest and prettiest toys we have, and usually afterwards we all have a sort of pitch in.

Barbeque guns in my circle have ranged from a pimped out rossi to a barret 50 BMG. (that was a fun cookout!) As far as handguns go, usually they are in the range of a mild coustom sig, 1911s of various flavors, or in my wifes case, a stainless Taurus PT92 in a shoulder rig.

Just One Shot
May 9, 2011, 10:50 AM
I haven't been to any OC BBQs (yet) but I have been to some OC gatherings in some of the local eateries and this is what I carried. If I'm carrying it, it is loaded. Doesn't make much sense to me to have an unloaded gun, may as well carry a rock if you're going to do that.



http://i56.tinypic.com/2qur7np.jpg

newbuckeye
May 9, 2011, 02:41 PM
Wow, how ugly is she?



I'm just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:


Not at all! (thankfully she doesn't look like her mom....:evil: )

newbuckeye- hopefully it wont be a shotgun wedding!

The lad she is dating has taken her shooting almost once a week. I think he has more guns than I do!:banghead:

Here's mine....
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/flipntired/Mobile%20Uploads/0503111114.jpg

DAdams
May 9, 2011, 05:07 PM
I have always pictured a BBQ roscoe as being a revolver; something a little unique and with just a splash of panache.

Here is my idea of showing up in style, not mine but if I were on the BBQ circuit I would have to consider some stylin pieces.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/M19-3BBQGunadjshopped750-1.jpg

As close as I could come would be my M60 or perhaps my 686 3 inch CS-1, which would need some show wood or bone grips.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/P5270011-1.jpg

Deltaboy
May 9, 2011, 06:58 PM
Nice Rigs I open carry in my yard at times so far I have had no complaints or the Police showing up.

bushmaster1313
May 9, 2011, 08:50 PM
If I could get some standing invitations from Forum members to cookouts in some of the free states, I could tool around New Jersey with a handgun in my trunk (unloaded) and if I get nabbed I will just cite FOPA and say I am going to a BBQ :evil:

HorseSoldier
May 10, 2011, 12:24 AM
I never really got the idea of the BBQ gun -- seems perilously close, conceptually, to such winners as pimp guns and the platinum plated, rhine stone bedazzled super guns favored by Mexican drug cartel sicarios.

9mm+
May 10, 2011, 12:24 AM
Both were staunch democrats, but always supported the 2nd Amdmt.

I wasn't sure that was even possible. It's very rare, to say the least.

azmjs
May 10, 2011, 12:34 AM
People in Texas need permits from their government to carry guns.

bpl
May 10, 2011, 06:32 AM
People in Texas need permits from their government to carry guns.

Not at a BBQ on private property!

plmcrzy
May 10, 2011, 06:33 AM
I think this would be appropriate

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/plmcrzy67/gungrill.jpg

towboat_er
May 10, 2011, 09:14 AM
Cool. I recon it is made to smoke out the end of the barrel.

CraigC
May 10, 2011, 10:53 AM
I never really got the idea of the BBQ gun -- seems perilously close, conceptually, to such winners as pimp guns and the platinum plated, rhine stone bedazzled super guns favored by Mexican drug cartel sicarios.
It only 'seems' that way to the uninitiated. Huge difference between a tastefully engraved Colt SAA, S&W or 1911 with ivory or stag stocks and what one would commonly perceive as a "pimp gun". If you don't understand the difference, I won't be able to explain it to you.

Rexster
May 10, 2011, 11:23 AM
I agree with CraigC here; quite a difference.

Iggy
May 10, 2011, 11:38 AM
A rig for Marryin's, Buryin's, and BBQs.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/Keith%20Holsters/P1010009-1.jpg?t=1305041776

ErikO
May 10, 2011, 11:53 AM
I so totally grew up in Illinois. This is totally outside anything I have personally experienced.

oldbear
May 10, 2011, 12:45 PM
The southwestern tradition of the BBQ and the BBQ gun has to be seen to really believed. It's something that really can't be totally explained, it has to be experienced. As the old saw goes, "if you have to ask you would not understand the answer."

Dr.Rob
May 10, 2011, 07:40 PM
They do happen, even in Colorado though the firearms aren't always as fancy as the food.

But yeah bbq sauce and bluing seem like a nightmare together.

yhtomit
May 10, 2011, 08:16 PM
I think I'd wear my 625 for a BBQ, despite the plain-jane Hogue grips. Or the 617 or similar if/when I finally get one ;)

For fancy grips, 1911s seem ideal, though -- lots of nice real estate for carved, burled, inscribed messages.

timothy

bushmaster1313
May 10, 2011, 08:36 PM
A trapshooter told me I did not want to know how he found out that ketchup is great at removing blueing

medalguy
May 11, 2011, 01:29 AM
Here's a nice BBQ gun (It is NOT mine!!)

TexasRifleman
May 11, 2011, 10:17 AM
But yeah bbq sauce and bluing seem like a nightmare together.

That's why mine is stainless :)

Leathermarshmallow
May 11, 2011, 10:28 AM
We recently had a get together and had some out of town folks. At one point we were target shooting. The folks from out of town were appalled that we would have guns around children. I told her to look around, that nearly everyone there was "strapped". She couldn't believe it. :eek:I just said, "Welcome to West Virginia".;)

mljdeckard
May 11, 2011, 10:31 AM
If I am at an....outdoor cooking event of some kind in a place where I would already be carrying openly, I would carry the same gun I conceal anyway. (Pretty much any venue out of town.)

Scrapperz
May 11, 2011, 10:54 AM
If you can get close enough to your game you could par cook it with the 460 XVR haha

http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=68&pictureid=685

Dain Bramage
May 11, 2011, 02:24 PM
A trapshooter told me I did not want to know how he found out that ketchup is great at removing blueing


Same thing with grape jelly.

9mmepiphany
May 11, 2011, 03:32 PM
...or tomato, orange or lemon juice

Joe Demko
May 11, 2011, 03:45 PM
Sriracha doesn't do it any favors, either.

RimfireChris
May 11, 2011, 05:08 PM
Dave's Insanity can sure do a number. I want to thank everyone on this thread, I have another excuse to tell the wife when I want a new gun. "But Honey, I don't have a BBQ gun yet."

Wingnut13
May 12, 2011, 01:29 AM
Huh, good reason to take the teflon coated Dan Wesson..... I would be upset if something on the picnic table took that finish off. ~Wingnut13

txhoghunter
May 12, 2011, 01:42 AM
So, for a BBQ in Texas on private property; Can anyone open carry with the property owner's consent? Or just the property owner?

shiftyer1
May 12, 2011, 02:31 AM
I have a 1911 and a blackhawk that i'd really love to get engraved and make bbq quality. I've been putting off getting some nice holster and belt rigs for so long I don't see it happening any time soon. I'm just a cheapskate! BUT I swear i'll have a nice bbq rig before I die:)

Txhoghunter.....as far as I know u can carry with owners consent for any reason. I'm really hoping we get an open carry law. Maybe if more people exorcise their right to open carry (where legal) it'll smooth the road for full oc?

TexasRifleman
May 12, 2011, 10:00 AM
So, for a BBQ in Texas on private property; Can anyone open carry with the property owner's consent? Or just the property owner?

Private property owners here can give anyone permission to open carry, concealed carry, etc. on their property. I've seen some legal types make the statement that if the owner is not actually present the owner has to give the other person "care, custody, and control" of the property as well as just permission to open carry, but I'm not sure where they get that from.

I've seen that statement made in regards to employees carrying inside a place of business, not out in a field somewhere.

stonecutter2
May 12, 2011, 10:54 PM
I so totally grew up in Illinois. This is totally outside anything I have personally experienced.
Same.

stonecutter2
May 12, 2011, 10:55 PM
I don't know when it started, but my brother and I started wearing our ivory gripped 1911's at our folk's house for "the Holidays". Both were staunch democrats, but always supported the 2nd Amdmt.
I wasn't sure that was even possible. It's very rare, to say the least.
It's possible. I don't think it's all that rare necessarily :)

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