Thieves (again) called police, useless..


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twoblink
January 26, 2003, 11:43 AM
So last night, I hear all this rumbling, someone was thoroughly trashing an apartment, looking for something. (Not my apartment) but one, that was one floor up and next building.

The two thieves worked out a system, one is the thief, and the other, the lookout. Every few minutes, the thief would whistle, and there would be a reply whistle from the lookout, to see if someone was watching or coming by. I (baseball bat in hand) shined a flashlight, in which I heard the " get the )*(@#!* out of there!!" whistle from the lookout, and heard rumbling and scrambling. I had called the police as this was happening, and they said we'll send a unit out.

This is where it gets seriously lame..

So I'm shining my flashlight, seeing if I can catch a glimpse of the thief as he's running on the rooftops; and about (10 minutes) later, the cops show up and start shining their flashlights. He shines it at me, and just stares.

I yell out, I'm the one who called!! He replied, I see nobody on the roof (probably because of the 10 minute lapse between when I called and when they showed up!!) and he stood there, shined his flashlight for about 10 seconds, and then left. The thief goes through the patio, and almost every patio is caged; there is a small escape window, and the cop didn't even bother to look for the obvious, which escape window was open. The most common gumshoe work elludes them greatly.. :banghead:

When I talk to them, I cover my ears; because if I don't, I feel my IQ oozing out of my ears.. :cuss: :banghead:

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Blackhawk
January 26, 2003, 12:08 PM
Police react to the situations they enter, and you'd already changed the situation you called about by getting into it with your bat and flashlight.

Sometimes it's better to JUST watch unseen from cover. This seems to have been one of those times.

PATH
January 26, 2003, 12:22 PM
All depends on which officers respond. Some LEO's are very good at what they do and some are on what I call "bluefare". Some people are just not good at what they do but they are not bad enough to get fired. Most are fairly good though IMHO.

Baba Louie
January 26, 2003, 02:25 PM
Dang

Persistant little buggars ain't they?

Police are for after the fact.

Bat is for in case it's your place and you're at home.

What to do about this last scenario?
(ponder, ponder)

I'm thinking: slingshot and marbles/ball bearings...

Blowgun with steel darts...

Paintball "marker" (It's not a gun honest!)(balls can be kept in freezer, paint substituted with OC, maybe? etc)...

Whistles, cell phones, etc and a plan to follow 'em home (from a safe, discreet distance)

Positively ID the jokers and have a group of P.O.'d large male neighbors pay them a Team visit/batting practice...

Dang twoblink

Stay Safe

Adios

TarpleyG
January 26, 2003, 05:08 PM
Can you say "covert sniper mission" with a high-powered air rifle? That's what I would do if in your shoes. Hell, if you have vacation time, take it and lay really low. Stock up on supplies and just wait. From your other posts, they'll be back. You and the GF shooting at the same time to get more than one shot off. A .17 pellet to the noggin a few times and they'll go somewhere else. Just MHO.

GT

10-Ring
January 26, 2003, 05:16 PM
Dude, maybe some common traps to catch...er...slow down...er...injure... these a-holes is in order. Or perhaps relocation is in order?

Jason Demond
January 26, 2003, 05:33 PM
Anyone remember the Death Wish movies? In one of the movies Bronson puts a ton of nails into a long board, he then puts it under a window in his apartment, and the wait begins. Sounds like a good plan to me.:evil:

4v50 Gary
January 26, 2003, 08:32 PM
Call first and wait next time. If the cops were smart, they'd deploy away from the site and cut off the avenues of escape. A dog team would be sent in and the suspects cornered. Hope to hear that your gf calls the captain again.

DeltaElite
January 26, 2003, 08:36 PM
So they didn't get there in time. That's what happens in the real world, only on TV do the cops get there in time. ;)
Pretty typical in Le here in the states, since Domino's fields more delivery drivers each night than we do cops.

TheeBadOne
January 26, 2003, 08:42 PM
I'd say either call and be quiet or scare them off, but not something in between. You alerted the crooks and sent them running, then called. If you had called w/o alerting the badguys they may have been there when the police showed up. It's a question of what route you take, no different from alarms put in businesses. Some want loud audible alarms with the thought that they will scare the thief and make him leave before he can steal anything or do much damage. Some like a silent alarm that doesn't tip off the thief that someone is alerted and on their way. It's a person style choice, but one you need to understand when you make it.

twoblink
January 26, 2003, 10:37 PM
Actually, I am not upset at their response time, I'm upset at the 10 second investigation... The very basics of policework is neglected..

Total in the last 3 months: 14 apartments; all within 50 yards of me.

Doesn't that fact warrant a little more then 10 seconds of "Well, I don't see the thief over your roof, and so I'm done.."??

My gf told him "You guys are utterly useless, why don't you just leave your gun on the table and let me handle things if you are going to handle crime investigation this way." The look on his face... priceless!:D

Gawd, I love my gf...

Gordon
January 26, 2003, 10:59 PM
Yep pellet gun and Malayan whip trap in a place noone has access to . a screen door spring or equivalent and a 2x2 stick 4' long with a row of emmbedd nails will do.

twoblink
January 27, 2003, 02:40 AM
My gf is pretty bent on:

Rusty nails and broken glass scattered on the floor just over my patio; and loosening the patio screen cage, so when he tries anything, he will fall on a bed of nails and glass. If that don't kill him, I hope tetanus will!

illuminatus99
January 27, 2003, 04:15 AM
as funny as it would be to lay a trap for them they'd probably sue and win if they got hurt, the best thing you could possibly do is hope he breaks in while you're home and catches some buckshot in the face.

twoblink
January 27, 2003, 04:50 AM
I have begun keeping moldy bread in the house, and not throwing it away..

In the event of catching the thief, I will feed him moldy bread..

Anybody who's ever had food poisoning knows; you won't die, you'll just wish you were... ;)

My grandfather, who's a butcher, says, slicing of tendons yields little to no blood.... Hmm... Good grandfatherly advice?

Achilles tendon is a great start, carpel tendons also... It's hard to be a thief, when the tendons in your hands are severed, huh?

Obviously, if you haven't realized it by now, I have 0% sympathy for scum..

Kahr carrier
January 27, 2003, 08:13 AM
I guess Im lucky the cops in my area are fast ,they usually show up in less than 3 minute in my area , or they are bored.;)

Coronach
January 27, 2003, 12:14 PM
OK...so lets see if I have this right...

You observe a burglary in progress. Call the cops...they show up, shine their flashlights for a while, and leave?

Whiskey tango Foxtrot, over?


Are you sure that you communicated clearly to the dispatchers that it was a BURGLARY, you're positive they were in the residence, etc etc etc?

Stateside that would certainly be called poor policework.

Mike

kalibear45
January 27, 2003, 01:20 PM
You oughta keep one of these in your house to scare off those pesky thieves! :D

http://www.lorencoleman.com/myakka.html

BerettaNut92
January 27, 2003, 03:45 PM
Albert, have you already enrolled Janie in some classes that would teach her how to take down a larger BG?

You wrestle the first guy thru the door, Janie takes down the other guy with a maglite and throws some zip tie restraints on him?

Then play Skunk Records' the Digital Redneck on repeat until their eardrums burst? :D

twoblink
January 27, 2003, 09:03 PM
Coronach,

I'm shining my flashlight, the cops arrive. They shine theirs at me.. I tell them, "I am the one that called you guys. Burglary in progress until I turned on the flashlight and thieves high-tailed it out of there.

(Shine shine shine, ... 3 seconds later) "Well, looks like the thieves are not currently on the roof..." (Exit police, 10 seconds after arriving)...

Great police work, Chich and Chong at work...

SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI
January 27, 2003, 10:26 PM
I wonder if it would be feasable to string a few tripwires on the roof? If thats not possible, perhaps a few roof tiles could work their way loose..

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