7.35 X 51 Carcano


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Romeo 33 Delta
May 9, 2011, 05:59 PM
Who's got some loading data using Benchmark with a 128gr original FMJ bullet?

I have loads for aftermarket bullets ... 123gr @ 33.3gr and 150gr @ 31.0gr ... I'm thinking a starting load might be OK at say, 32.0gr?

Your input is appreciated.

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HOWARD J
May 9, 2011, 06:05 PM
Romeo
Where did you get your bullets & cases
Thanks

NCsmitty
May 9, 2011, 07:57 PM
Here's a link to a bunch of data on Carcano rifles and ammo. Part way down the page is a link to reload data using the 128gr bullet, and using IMR3031.

http://personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/ammo/reload.html

You need to be a little cautious as the Carcano is not the strongest of actions. A load listed for a heavier bullet should be safe for a starter load for a lighter one. Then work up if deemed safe.



NCsmitty

Romeo 33 Delta
May 9, 2011, 08:39 PM
Howard J ... years ago I found a guy who was selling pulled FMJ's and for brass, I've been using Norma 6.5 Mannlicher-Schoenhauer that i reform for both 6.5 X 52 and 7.35 X 51. I have alos used Buffalo Arms bullets and brass as well over the years. I was just looking for a "new" load from those I have been using.

Romeo 33 Delta
May 9, 2011, 08:47 PM
NC Smitty ... thanks for the link. I have used 3031 as well as 4895, 4198 and 4831. Dave Emary published some loads with Benchmark and I was just wanting some outside confirmation that my thoughts on 32.0gr for a 128gr bullet starting load would be acceptable.

FWIW, the Carcano is good for 38,000 PSI (and it takes a good deal more than that to really blow it up), but I've found generally my more accurate loads are lower-middle pressure range rather than skirting along the ragged, upper limits. Besides, I'm old and don't appreciate any more recoil than necessary and my cardboard isn't wearing body armor, so starting loads penetrate without trouble :p

NCsmitty
May 9, 2011, 10:52 PM
When someone with 5 posts is looking for information, and I have no idea of their load expertise, I have a tendency to be cautious and offer caution with information.

I believe that you may have popped a few primers in your day, and although few load for the 7.35 Carcano, someone may have information using H380. If they don't, I'm sure that your experience will carry you through with good decisions.

I personally think that one of the slightly faster powders like H4895 or IMR 4895 would prove to be optimal for the lighter bullet. A chronograph can be a truth detector if you have access to one. H380 might work better with heavier bullets though.
My weak spot is the 6.5x55 Swede.
Good luck on your endeavor.



NCsmitty

Romeo 33 Delta
May 9, 2011, 11:42 PM
NCSmitty ... thanks, I'll look into H380. I have used H-4895 in the past and only was following the Benchmark based on Dave Emary's work with the Carcano. I'd be looking for something about 2,000-2100 fps for cardboard ... figure trading off a couple hundred fps to get a milder load. Not a big deal in the Model 41 I have been shooting (yes, 7.35) and not too bad in a "T.S." but it gets a little snotty with a Cavalry Carbine. (but no where near as bad as in a M-N 44 carbine ... that really IS like the sun coming up over Mandalay!

Nice to find another Swede shooter out there too. I can sit and look at a 96 action for hours and appreciate how rifles were built when craftsman instead of machines made them. You just know some old timer had that bolt in and out of that action many times ... a little touch of crocus cloth here or a litle polishing there ... and then, only when "he" was satisfied how it "felt" did he consider his work on that action "finished" and the job "properly done".

Cheers,

Bill

HOWARD J
May 10, 2011, 09:37 AM
I still have some old military kicking around---trouble is--berdan primers

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4255/carcano.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/carcano.jpg/)

This weapon ain't no Mauser--I did take a few deer with it--FMJ replaced with
JSN

HOWARD J
May 10, 2011, 12:01 PM
I checked out the prices of Buffalo Arms 7.35 cartridge cases---I think I will leave the old
carcano in the back of the safe--------------:eek::eek::eek:

8mmman
May 14, 2011, 05:09 PM
Here is my M38 and my loads

Romeo 33 Delta
May 15, 2011, 09:37 PM
Thanks 8mmman ... appreciate the data!

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