Got a reminder of our freedoms


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writerinmo
May 14, 2011, 09:50 AM
I sold one of my new M44 sight tools to a gentleman who lives in the UK. It is supposed to ship with three push-bolts, one for firing adjustments, the other two are used if removal of the sight is desired. The longest bolt is a special order, and was backordered from my local supplier, so I had to get it from an online supplier I use. So, of course I sent the gentleman an email explaining the situation, asking him if he wanted it without the longest bolt or if he wanted to wait till the 17th when the ordered bolts arrive. He replied that he would wait, he wouldn't have any ammunition until the end of the month. I asked if it was a case of not having any available, or just not having gone and gotten it, and asked if they could buy a spam can like we can and have it shipped, or what? This is his reply, and it really drives home the freedoms and privileges we have...

Bruce,

Shipped to door would be a dream come true!

We have to get authority from the police force for ammo, each calibre has to be authorised, and we have to prove 'good reason' to hold rifle and ammo, then you have authority to hold a certain amount, in 7.62 I can have in my possession up to 300 rounds at one time, but can only purchase 250 rounds at once.
We have to go with license in hand to a registered firearms dealer, purchase the rounds they will then write on our certs how many we bought and when.
If at renewal time, which is currently every 5 years, we haven't used the calibre enough we then have to prove the need for it!
I have authority for 3 rifles, .223, .22rimmy & 7.62, I can only have 1 of each I also have authority for a .44 long barrel revolver this has to have a 12" barrel and a fixed wrist brace to make overall length 24" minimum, as ordinary hand guns are prohibited here, and rifles are all single shot, apart from the .22rimmy which is allowed to be semi auto.
I can also posses as many shotguns 'within' reason as I like, but pump and semis are restricted to 3 shots, 1 in the breach and 2 in mag.
Enjoy your gun freedom and don't let the govt take it away!

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griff383
May 14, 2011, 10:03 AM
Wow, makes you really realize how good we have it.

Thanks for posting

Mainsail
May 14, 2011, 10:08 AM
Although it involves reading, this is a great essay on what happened over there and what we need to watch out for over here. The anti-gunners love schism, and get giddy when gun people who stand idly by and allow "the other guy's" guns to get banned.

ALL THE WAY DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE: GUN PROHIBITION IN ENGLAND AND SOME LESSONS FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES IN AMERICA (http://www.guncite.com/journals/okslip.html)
~Joseph E. Olson and David B. Kopel

Water-Man
May 14, 2011, 10:27 AM
We still don't have it good enough. Gotta keep pluggin away!

Smaug
May 14, 2011, 11:11 AM
Contrast that with Switzerland, whose national sport is shooting and skiing. Every house has a gun.

This fact, along with mountainous terrain made it quite impractical for Hitler to overrun them.

Without us and our guns and soldiers, the UK would surely have fallen.

I wonder how hard it is for crooks to get guns over there? If they control that as well as they control it for citizens, then maybe it works OK. (although it sucks not to have this basic freedom)

happygeek
May 14, 2011, 12:52 PM
I wonder how hard it is for crooks to get guns over there? If they control that as well as they control it for citizens, then maybe it works OK. (although it sucks not to have this basic freedom)


Here's a study from their Home Office on illegal firearms: http://www.ligali.org/pdf/home_office_gun_crime_the_market_in_and_use_of_illegal_firearms.pdf. It even lists roughly how much the criminals paid for various pistols in various conditions. Unfortunately it doesn't list area or country of origin of the firearms they did confiscate, I'd be curious to see that.

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