What have the wait times been ?


PDA






mopar92
May 16, 2011, 12:13 PM
Starting this April, where is everybody in the process?

If you enjoyed reading about "What have the wait times been ?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
Bubbles
May 16, 2011, 01:40 PM
Ten days on a F2, 2-3 weeks on a F3, 4-6 months on a F4.

mopar92
May 16, 2011, 02:14 PM
Can't wait to see if I get lucky again on this F1

Mot45acp
May 16, 2011, 08:33 PM
4 months on form 1, 3 on form 4

GoingQuiet
May 16, 2011, 08:34 PM
Ten days on a F2, 2-3 weeks on a F3, 4-6 months on a F4.
Nailed it. I've had 4 Form 4's come back this week. Some from October/November, some from January.

mopar92
May 16, 2011, 10:00 PM
How did I get mine back in 23 days last fall ?? Luck!! It was a F4

GRAPE-DRANK
May 16, 2011, 10:15 PM
April too, still waiting.

flking
May 16, 2011, 11:33 PM
Sent mine off in February. Still Waiting. I got Mr. Shipman, who I have spoken to on the phone. He seems to be a very polite and thorough man with one helluva overload. On some other boards he has a reputation for being 'not at work' most days. Apparently the examiners have other duties, too.

It hurts my heart to think that Thomas Jefferson would be disappointed in me for having asked permission from my government (for anything).

mopar92
May 16, 2011, 11:52 PM
I've heard from many people, that the examiner means everything!

mstreddy
May 18, 2011, 02:46 PM
I just recently (Late April) got my Form 4 back from August 2010. 8 months.

kwelz
May 19, 2011, 04:39 PM
1. NFA Item: AAC M4-1000
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: Feb. 4, 2011
5. Check Cashed: Feb. 8, 2011
6. Pending Date: March 10, 2011
7. Approved Date: April 28, 2011
8. Forms Received: May 4, 2011
9. Examiner Name: Jason M. Frushour


1. NFA Item: SBR
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: Feb. 4, 2011
5. Check Cashed: Feb. 23, 2011
6. Pending Date: March 18, 2011
7. Approved Date: May 18th
8. Forms Received: May 19th
9. Examiner Name: Sandra Snook.

swiftak
May 19, 2011, 05:15 PM
Wait time on what?

DoubleTapDrew
May 19, 2011, 07:26 PM
I've heard from many people, that the examiner means everything!
The ATF could make a heck of a lot of extra money if they had an extra $10 "Pick your examiner" option.
Actually, no, that would probably overload the "fast(er)" ones.

Chopdoktor
May 20, 2011, 12:07 AM
My suppressor has been waiting 5 weeks just to transfer from the manufacturer to my dealer! I haven't even been able to start the paperwork :-( Now that sucks.

mopar92
May 20, 2011, 07:33 PM
November 1 - received
November 4- check cashed
November 10- pending
December 3 - received
Sandra Snook
This was on a form 4

alemonkey
May 20, 2011, 11:45 PM
I sent my F1 in mid December and it was approved almost exactly 3 months later.

dieselgeek
May 21, 2011, 08:47 AM
Method: Trust
Sent: 03/25/2011
Received: 3/28/2011
Check cashed: 4/1/2011
Pending : 4/9/2011
Approved: 5/9/2011
Examiner: William Shipman
Tax Stamp Received: TBD



Still no stamp. No idea why it's taking so long to show up. Every time I see his name next to a file it shows a one month time from approved to arrived. Makes no sense.

GoingQuiet
May 21, 2011, 06:56 PM
The ATF could make a heck of a lot of extra money if they had an extra $10 "Pick your examiner" option.
Actually, no, that would probably overload the "fast(er)" ones.
This would NOT work for three reasons.

1. As you already said - examiners that temporarily move faster than other examiners will be flooded with applications, negating any positive effect.
2. Each examiner is different. What one examiner requires to process forms in a timely fashion can be superfluous or insufficient for another.
3. Every TRANSFEROR (SELLER) is assigned an examiner. Just because you have an assigned examiner does not mean you are going to get that examiner every time. I am a "G" - and like all "G" businesses I have Christina Farris. So when I buy stuff from Gemtech, she approves the transfer from Gemtech and then when I sell to someone else, she approves the transfer to the next person. HOWEVER - due to caseload reassignment this can change. I have gotten forms in from THREE other examiners this month - so the phrase "The examiner is everything" holds true IF you get the same examiner 100% of the time which does not happen.

mopar92
May 22, 2011, 06:29 PM
I think some of the wait time is cut based on if you have any level of public trust, etc that are very extensive background checks, which is a very good prerequisite for the low level trust it takes to own an NFA weapon. I'm speculating. But I have never ever waited over 2 months to get my check cleared to stamp in hand...

flking
May 24, 2011, 10:41 PM
Method: Trust
Form 4, Suppressor
Mailed: March 18th
Check Cashed: March 29th
Additional Requested documents mailed: April 18th
Form 4 approved: May 9th
Form 4 arrived at Dealer: May 24th
Examiner: William Shipman.

67 days, start to finish.

:D

GoingQuiet
May 25, 2011, 11:15 AM
Method: Trust
Form 4, Suppressor
Mailed: March 18th
Check Cashed: March 29th
Additional Requested documents mailed: April 18th
Form 4 approved: May 9th
Form 4 arrived at Dealer: May 24th
Examiner: William Shipman.

67 days, start to finish.

:D
THAT is impressive. I'm still waiting on some forms from December/November.

mopar92
June 5, 2011, 03:03 PM
I think May 6th was the date I mailed off my Form 4... Got a call from my Wife that my stamp arrived Friday! Yessssss! Lightning fast? Or is everybody getting them in 30 days or so now? How can it be possible that my wait times are 1 month, some 4-5 months+? I'm batting a helluva good average on the last 2 forms....

mopar92
July 5, 2011, 03:45 PM
I don't know how it takes 6 months for most/some and I'm banging them out less than 60 days...

zoom6zoom
July 5, 2011, 04:06 PM
The ATF recently announced that examiners would now be assigned by state of residence, not last names any longer. So previous track records are pretty much out the window now.

mopar92
July 5, 2011, 04:27 PM
Where did you hear about that?

LiquidTension
July 5, 2011, 05:29 PM
There is a thread with a copy of the letter in this very forum.

mopar92
July 5, 2011, 08:23 PM
Interesting!

Dustin0
July 13, 2011, 04:51 PM
Pending since 04/08/11
Form 1
Sandra Snook

Dustin0
July 22, 2011, 12:41 PM
Update I went into problem status July 19 becuase I didnt print the forms double sided.

Ian
July 22, 2011, 09:09 PM
I had a transfer sent back to me once because I forgot to fill in one of the boxes. I sent it back corrected, and got my stamp literally a week later. FWIW.

berettaprofessor
July 25, 2011, 11:51 AM
Sent in in February...received reply in June that Schedule A needed to be included...gunstore didn't contact me, got lucky and called them before the 30 days (you get 30 days to resubmit or start over) was up. Faxed the Schedule A and received acceptance in 4 days. (22ndth of July).

FlyShooter
July 26, 2011, 06:46 PM
Mine just arrived today, so excited for this weekend.

Form 1 on a trust

Sent March 28, 2011
Check Cashed April 12, 2011
Received July 26, 2011

Four months from door to door

twisterx44
July 26, 2011, 07:32 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned this yet. If you havent used this site, add yours to the list.

http://www.nfatracker.com/Default.aspx


the home page is sort of a jumbled list of everything, but you can click 'reports' near the top of the page and see organized lists based on type of form, name of examiner, trust vs individual, etc.

Hope this helps.

-Twister

Dustin0
August 4, 2011, 01:35 PM
Form 1

Pending 04/08/11
Approved 07/29/11
Got it the mail 08/02/11

GRAPE-DRANK
September 15, 2011, 01:50 PM
Got the tax stamp on Monday. 5 months start to finish.:)

737Driver
September 15, 2011, 01:55 PM
Form 1 18 weeks
Form 4 21 weeks
Just sent in a form 1 last week.
They seem to be trending longer each time, hopefully this one stays under 6 months!

Prince Yamato
September 16, 2011, 02:13 PM
My form 4 went pending in July and they told my 5 months when I called. I'm still going to call them once a month anyway to check. I'm hoping the Great Pumpkin will bring me a Halloween miracle.

dogbaloo
September 16, 2011, 04:21 PM
Even though I've had some headaches on tracking, the NFA process was fine. Sent third week of Feb, approved third week of June. Form 4 Trust...first one. I guess I did the paperwork alright!:rolleyes:

JustinL
September 17, 2011, 02:41 PM
Form 4 Trust - recent.

Check cashed: 4/8/11
Pending: 4/22/11
Approved 8/11/11
Stamp Arrived: 8/13/11

I also called about another outstanding Form 4 and was told it would be another 5 months on top of the 2.5 months I've waited (went pending 6/22) for an SBS. Having never been told to expect a wait this long before, I stopped into the store from which I purchased it and spoke to their NFA clerk. She stated she hasn't noticed any change in their turn around time and this '5 month' business was news to her.

I suspect the lady answering the phone is just giving a generic answer to cover themselves and quash any false expectations on the part of the consumer - us.

Prince Yamato
September 18, 2011, 09:38 PM
I really wish we could track it online...

DennisRL
September 18, 2011, 11:45 PM
Can I ask who you call and what info you need to give them?

JerryC
September 22, 2011, 10:25 PM
F4 Trust submitted 4/27/11 for a .45 suppressor. Got a call they got paperwork back today 9/22/11 and went and picked it up. First item in trust (an SBR) took 6 months, second, a .22 suppressor took 5 months.

walt007
October 3, 2011, 06:12 PM
Simple NFA Tracker calculator - http://www.randominfo.net/NFA/NfaWait.php

I am waiting on 3 suppressors (.22LR, 5.56, 45 ACP). All three were paid for in End of February '11 or beginning of March '11 going through a trust. One tax stamp check was on dealer so no telling when that was cashed, but the two that were mine were cashed 07/21/2011 and 08/02/2011. According to this calculator I should start receiving my stamps back sometime in October or November (based upon the % of likelihood). Still waiting....

mtrmn
October 3, 2011, 06:52 PM
Form 4 signed and mailed April 1
Approved Sept 16

BK
October 6, 2011, 10:33 PM
Pending June 13th. Approved Sept 22nd. Snook.

bpsig
October 12, 2011, 06:25 PM
sent in on July 02
cashed July 06 2011
Pending per nfa on July 20 th after found in system when called today on Oct 12 th.
December maybe

boricua9mm
October 13, 2011, 09:25 AM
It appears that Form 1s and 4s have a longer wait time since they switched to the "state" system. I had a Form 1 that went in back in mid-March and I had the stamp by the end of May. It appears that most 1s and 4s since June/July have been slowed down and extra two months.

I love it when people change that which is working. :barf:

Chopdoktor
November 17, 2011, 12:39 AM
Thank God! Finally got the stamp and can in hand, today.

Submitted papers: May 21st
Pending: July 5th
Approved: November 12th
Examiner: Snook

I filed through a trust. Now I am about to submit a form 1 for a suppressor build, and submit some applications to create 2 SBR's and an SBS. Hooray bureaucracy; hooray (NFA) Stamp Collecting!!!

zignal_zero
November 17, 2011, 04:13 AM
Form: 4
Type: trust
For: MG
Sent: 10/31/11
Cashed: 11/04/11
pending: 11/14/11
Approved: ?
Received: ?
Examiner: Lamberger

walt007
November 17, 2011, 03:54 PM
Just got word yesterday that the workload for my processor, Sara Jones, is so full that they are just now approving the applications who's tax stamp checks were cashed back in June!! Dealer says that it is now taking significantly longer to get the go ahead on all his customers. Hope to have mine back to me somewhere before the close of 2011.

Prince Yamato
November 18, 2011, 01:15 PM
I too have Sara Jones.

Sent my Form 4 paperwork off in June, went pending a month later in July, got my suppressor last week.

Basically, it's 1 month until pending and 4 months after you go pending.

5 months.

plunge
November 19, 2011, 08:29 PM
well that tracker was a little disappointing. seems like i have chris farris. she covers 8 states, and has the slowest time out of anybody.. i will be sending my stuff off monday.

rjrivero
November 20, 2011, 08:27 PM
You in Michigan, plunge? Yeah, that kind of sucks. I think the fact that Michigan ONLY allowed Machine guns at the time of the reassignment was one of the reasons you got an examiner with 7 other states. Now you guys are pretty screwed.

plunge
November 21, 2011, 02:31 PM
You in Michigan, plunge? Yeah, that kind of sucks. I think the fact that Michigan ONLY allowed Machine guns at the time of the reassignment was one of the reasons you got an examiner with 7 other states. Now you guys are pretty screwed.
yep in michigan. thats the same reason i thought

Zak Smith
November 22, 2011, 04:30 PM
I track all our Form 3 dates and they're averaging over a month right now.

wally
November 24, 2011, 01:26 PM
Just got word yesterday that the workload for my processor, Sara Jones, is so full that they are just now approving the applications who's tax stamp checks were cashed back in June!!

Bummer, probably explains why my two (checks cashed June 20) aren't here. Was getting a bit concerned, so this thread has saved me a phone call for now.

bpsig
November 29, 2011, 01:38 AM
I got the call today. Both the trust change over and ok for sbr colt and new can is in. Sent in july 02, pending 20th. in today nov 28th. almost 5 months. Now if rain/ flood/snow stops can go try out.

63Busman
December 1, 2011, 12:10 AM
Sent first week of June 2011. Check cashed the following week. Pending on July 25th. Nothing yet.
Andy

GoingQuiet
December 1, 2011, 03:42 PM
Form 3's have been taking anywhere from 2 weeks to a month.

Form 4's have been taking upwards of 4, in some cases 6.

Prince Yamato
December 2, 2011, 02:41 AM
I think it has little to do with the examiner and more about their caseload. Examiner A may cover 5 states, Examiner B, 2 states. That doesn't mean Examiner B will be faster. In fact, it has more to do with volume of application. Texas and Florida are the two states with the highest volume of NFA purchases. I forget where I saw this data, but I remember Texas averaging 3500+ suppressor purchases for 2010. The previous years were around 1500 suppressors purchased.

walt007
December 19, 2011, 11:32 PM
Simple NFA Tracker calculator - http://www.randominfo.net/NFA/NfaWait.php

I am waiting on 3 suppressors (.22LR, 5.56, 45 ACP). All three were paid for in End of February '11 or beginning of March '11 going through a trust. One tax stamp check was on dealer so no telling when that was cashed, but the two that were mine were cashed 07/21/2011 and 08/02/2011. According to this calculator I should start receiving my stamps back sometime in October or November (based upon the % of likelihood). Still waiting....
Picked up two of three suppressors tonight. Checks cashed around 07/21 or 08/02 (one received today and the other I am still waiting on). The second suppressor I picked up had the stamp check on the dealer. The current wait time the NFA is giving out is upwards of 12 months!! Nothing short of ridiculous!!

walt007
January 30, 2012, 02:29 PM
Had my dealer send in my form 4 End of February '11, dealer received notice of my trust going into "problem-ed" status 01/19/12 and then, without further resolve, received the approved paperwork 01/23/12. Out of 3 cans, this was the first one to be sent in for approval and the last one to get back. Total time elapsed from paying for it to receiving it... 11 MONTHS!!:uhoh:

plunge
February 2, 2012, 02:41 PM
My check was cashed Nov 30 2011, went pending Dec 2 2011 and was told time pending to approved is about 6 months. I deploy to afghanistan end of may/early june, so that pretty much sucks. looks like it'll be a while until i actually shoot it. I might have to order another so by the time i get back that one will be waiting for me also.

63Busman
February 2, 2012, 10:12 PM
Ended up being 5 months from the date it went pending. Had a slight delay when they did not like the model number of the Kahr Thompson. Ready to go shooting!

If you enjoyed reading about "What have the wait times been ?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!