My Local Gun Show Embarrasses Me


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cbrgator
May 17, 2011, 01:44 AM
As if my local gun show (Suncoast Gun Show - Ft. Lauderdale) wasn't worthless enough with their sky high prices and complete unwillingness to negotiate for even a penny...

This was a sign hanging next to the clerks windows who collect admissions fees right at the entrance:


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e96/SMAcbr/gunshow.jpg

I guess it's no surprise the show is terrible considering the organizers don't even know the difference between a magazine and clip. :banghead:

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jgiehl
May 17, 2011, 04:16 AM
They just wanted to make sure nobody has any loaded bullets in their clips. :)

Animal Mother
May 17, 2011, 08:09 AM
Whats the big deal? So your gunshow doesn't allow any loaded Garand clips or loaded stripper clips. Heck, your show is better than ours, we can't even bring loaded magazines in! :neener:

M-Cameron
May 17, 2011, 08:29 AM
2 things:

1) that sign was more than likely printed up 10 minutes before they put it up by some guys wife........


2) if you know the point they are trying to make.....whats the big deal?

it may not be technically correct, but for 99% of the people out there, clip and magazine are the same thing...

..heck, ide be willing to bet my shorts that more people would point to a magazine over a clip if you asked them to point out the clip.

Lex Luthier
May 17, 2011, 08:32 AM
I have never been to a gun show that allowed CCL loaded weapons. In fact they usually ask, and then you to step off to the side and clear your chamber and mag. Considering some of the gangbangers who show up at these things, I am glad to know that these posers are asked to play well with others.

mljdeckard
May 17, 2011, 08:34 AM
This is a case where I give them credit for making sure they talk to the stupidest people who will be attending. They will be the ones who need the help. (But also, upon reflection, are probably BEYOND such help.)

hso
May 17, 2011, 08:42 AM
Yes, it is embarrassing that a promoter for the show doesn't know to have posted "guns/clips/magazines" instead of "guns/clips". Someone involved in the community should know to include everything.

vito
May 17, 2011, 08:53 AM
Guns shows can create a very negative impression of gun owners. Ask someone who has never gone to one to attend a gun show and then ask what they observed. I'll bet they'll mention the tables of Nazi items, the bearded wild-eyed survivalist vendors preaching supplies for the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it, and other wierd stuff. Recently at a local gunshow I recognized a salesman from a local gunstore, then noticed that the prices on the guns seemed excesively high. He stated that they mark the price UP from the store price to cover the cost and effort of setting up a table at the show. I'm enough of a gun enthusiast to visit this website pretty often, but gun shows, IMHO, are generally a waste of my time.

youngda9
May 17, 2011, 09:21 AM
How is the local gunshow a reflection on you? I don't see how you should be embarrassed. No loaded weapons is a common sign at gun show entrances. Those signs carry no weight of law in Indiana ;)

I guess I'm not part of the clip/magazine patrol...

ForumSurfer
May 17, 2011, 09:49 AM
Well this must really annoy you...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p188/johnnnyhgmail/p_100004406_1.jpg

Stamped right on my magazine loader for my 22's!

vito
May 17, 2011, 09:56 AM
Using clip for magazine is often a sign of someone who knows little about firearms but is trying to sound knowledgable. I am a motorcyclist, and I cringe when someone who clearly knows nothing about motorcycles calls every bike a "hog", or who thinks they sound cool calling a Japanese brand bike a "rice burner", etc. I don't get embarrased but annoyed when a newscaster calls a semi-automatic pistol an "automatic weapon" or refers to someone with a few boxes of ammo as an "arsenal", etc., etc. It just demonstrates ignorance, and lessens their credibility on the subject.

medalguy
May 17, 2011, 12:18 PM
Talk about confusing signs-- A gym in my area has billboards saying "If you've ever invited someone to the gun show, this ain't your gym." Never have figured out exactly what this is all about. :confused:

Sam1911
May 17, 2011, 12:34 PM
Talk about confusing signs-- A gym in my area has billboards saying "If you've ever invited someone to the gun show, this ain't your gym." Never have figured out exactly what this is all about. I think I can translate that one...

There's a certain element of the super-macho bodybuilding set that is prone to unnecessary displays of physique and one of the common, stereotypical, lead-in lines is something like, "Wanna go to the GUN show?" (referring to his biceps as "guns") and then yanking up a sleeve and flexing in a flamboyant manner. Sort of the muscle-bound equivalent of "pull my finger" I guess. If you imagine this said in an exaggerated, "Hulk Hogan" pro-wrestling kind of growl you're on the right track.

So this gym is trying to establish itself as a more progressive-minded health center rather than a testosterone-soaked den of 1980s 'road-ragers who'd pull crass and socially inapt stunts like that.

Doesn't really have anything to do with being pro- or anti-gun.

ForumSurfer
May 17, 2011, 12:35 PM
Talk about confusing signs-- A gym in my area has billboards saying "If you've ever invited someone to the gun show, this ain't your gym." Never have figured out exactly what this is all about. :confused:

Observe, the gunshow from "Night at the Museum":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3unf9tQHkAk

RevolvingGarbage
May 17, 2011, 12:36 PM
Talk about confusing signs-- A gym in my area has billboards saying "If you've ever invited someone to the gun show, this ain't your gym." Never have figured out exactly what this is all about. :confused:
Man: "Hey baby, did you get your tickets yet?"

Woman: "What tickets?"

Man: "The tickets to the gun show! *Man flexes bicepts"

*Edit* Wow, post sniped twice!

GoWolfpack
May 17, 2011, 12:43 PM
So this gym is trying to establish itself as a more progressive-minded health center rather than a testosterone-soaked den of 1980s 'road-ragers who'd pull crass and socially inapt stunts like that.



Sort of like this Planet Fitness Commercial? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-cpojkILO0)

fallout mike
May 17, 2011, 12:48 PM
A friend of mine was recently kicked out of a gym and asked to not come back bc they said his muscles were too big and made the other people feel inadequate.

CoRoMo
May 17, 2011, 12:49 PM
It shouldn't have, but the word 'clip' is now an accepted term for a gun's magazine. Gun literature, gun owners, and even some in the gun industry of firearms and accessory manufacturers use the term 'clip' to refer to the magazine.

Whenever I've corrected gun owners and enthusiasts for using the word 'clip', they roll their eyes and say, "Whatever".

This is a losing battle. We must assimilate. Resistance is futile.

451 Detonics
May 17, 2011, 01:40 PM
From Webster's Dictionary...

: a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm

live with it...lol...

Carl N. Brown
May 17, 2011, 01:48 PM
For civilian use, clip and detachable box magazine are synonyms. Check 1950s sports magazines and factory catalogs. Technically inaccurate, but common.

For military, the difference between an airdrop of ammo preloaded in clips or preloaded in magazines is a huge difference, especially in an on-going action.

JohnBT
May 17, 2011, 02:44 PM
"the difference between a magazine and clip"

Oh jeez, not this petty nonsense again. What's next, complaining that the sign is redundant because all it needs to say is "No ammo" - that's enough to ban loaded mags isn't it?

bcp280z
May 17, 2011, 07:41 PM
Just wondering, I always take the rounds out of my gun (that I intend to test holsters for) What if I left em in, would they be confiscated? Or would the ziptie locking my gun closed be enough and just put em in my pocket?

yhtomit
May 17, 2011, 08:12 PM
If someone is pontificating, it might be a good cutting point -- to demonstrate ignorance on their part.

But when a mistake is innocent and so is the maker, it'd be a shame to be haughty.

"Humble to the humble, unyielding to the arrogant." <-- a motto I've liked since I heard it, and should do better in following.

timothy

zoom6zoom
May 17, 2011, 08:21 PM
We generally have empty (money) clips on the way OUT the door.

CajunBass
May 17, 2011, 08:47 PM
Why would it embarass you? You didn't write it did you?

ceetee
May 17, 2011, 08:50 PM
So... you didn't see the table near the right rear of the hall with the huge signs reading "CLIPS!" waving proudly overhead?

Brockak47
May 17, 2011, 09:12 PM
Magazine:
a room or place for keeping gunpowder and other explosives, as in a fort or on a warship.
a building or place for keeping military stores, as arms, ammunition, or provisions.

Clip (cartridge clip, Ammunition clip)
a metal frame or container holding cartridges for a magazine rifle or automatic pistol.
a metallic container holding cartridges for an automatic firearm

:neener:
but really why get so bent out of shape over it?
it would be different if someone was referring to a semi automatic rifle as a machine gun in my opinion

Hey head into the magazine room and grab a few clips of ammo!!! lol

Leanwolf
May 17, 2011, 10:11 PM
CBRGATOR - " ... guess it's no surprise the show is terrible..."

Oh, that sign. I thought you meant the "No Smoking" sign. :)

L.W.

Ignition Override
May 17, 2011, 10:59 PM
cbrgator:
Aside from the sign and its wording, are all of you guys aware of the tragic mishap months ago at a gun show in Bloomington, IL?

Somebody brought in a Mini 14. It might have already had a round in the chamber when it was bought into the show, possibly in the magazine.
A visitor at the table apparently touched the trigger and the round seriously injured a bystander and wounded two other visitors.

Correct me if needed, as this is what I seem to remember from the newspaper article and other accounts on a gun website.
Maybe there should be a second person to check that both visitors' guns and sellers' guns (the night before) are empty.

If they want to call a clip a magazine, so be it. But are these and the chambers empty each day of the show?

doubleh
May 18, 2011, 10:03 AM
What is the big deal about using "clip" for "magazine"? Yes, they are different things but most of us know that the two names are used to mean the same thing, the little thing that holds your ammo in the gun. The words have been interchangeable for as long as I've been shooting and that is a long time. Lighten up.

CoRoMo
May 18, 2011, 01:42 PM
The sign is not a prohibitory statement.

It is simply declaring what products you should not expect to find at the show. There are...
No loaded guns, no clips, no ammo available today. Sorry.

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