How customized are your firearms?


May 17, 2011, 05:25 AM
Recently I've gotten the customization fever. It started shortly after Obama was elected, and a particular attorney general made some stupid comments about new weapons bans. . . which resulted in me finally buying the centerfire semi-auto I'd been pondering for years. A saiga .308.

Naturally, Saigas are best converted, which means that all the best saigas are customized. . . and the trigger I put on my .308 from Dinzag is the best trigger of all my firearms. So this got me thinking about other things. Soon my 10mm had a new recoil spring (Which none of my friends can even rack. Wussies) my 10/22 has a new stock (The ATI Fiberforce faux-dragunov stock.) and I'm working on a s12 build (Which I just finished)

Currently I'm contemplating a match grade barrel for my 10mm, a new trigger for my xd45c, and getting a r7600 to put a topfolding stock onto.

So what customizations do people have on their firearms?

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May 17, 2011, 06:12 AM
Topfolding stock on a Remington 7600?

Never even thought of that one before. I'd like to see that!

May 17, 2011, 06:48 AM
A top fold on my mossberg and an 18.5 inch barrel, plus tru-glows on my feild barrel....
Scout scoped Mosin Nagant
AR-15 (nuff said lol)

Pete D.
May 17, 2011, 09:15 AM
Aside from an accurized Colt 1911, none at all, unless you count mounting a scope on a firearm "customizing".

May 17, 2011, 09:32 AM Makes a good backpack rifle, from what I've heard. Especially in .35 whelen.

May 17, 2011, 09:44 AM
I customize every gun I own. All rifles and shotguns have LOP adjusted, all handguns have at least new grips. Some handguns get action jobs and/or ambi safeties.

I have a .44 SW Mountain Gun with the grip frame recontoured and the trigger slimmed

Don't let me get started on my ARs!

May 17, 2011, 09:52 AM
My carry piece (Glock 23) is the only one I have a little customized work on. I have the grip stippled, night sights and a TLR1 mounted on it. In addition, right now I have the slide in the shop to get serrations across the top of the slide (for one handed manipulations).

All of the changes to my gun are for functioning purposes, I could care less how the gun looks. The only changes on internals have been routine maintenance.

May 17, 2011, 11:01 AM
Other than new grips, I had a trigger job done by S&W on my 442 and had SA round the back of the frontsight on my Mil Spec. I really consider both of those more of a repair than custom work.

The Mil Spec frontsight was so sharp it tore holes in clothing constantly and the 442 trigger was absurdly heavy and gritty. The 1911 is now IMHO what it should have been in the first place. The S&W is now one of the best I have ever fired.

May 17, 2011, 11:08 AM
If it works, leave the darn thing alone.
Virtually all of my guns are stock. Especially my carry guns. The only change was to put a NY trigger in my Glock 17 PD trade and change out the night sights to standard glock fixed.

In the shop we see more repair work for guns that have been "customized" than anything else.

May 17, 2011, 11:08 AM
Everything I have has had something done to it.
They all get trigger jobs first, then I give them their own "personality".

May 17, 2011, 11:56 AM
None have been "customized", but most all of mine have been 'fixed'.

If they came with cheap or cumbersome sights, I replaced them. If the stock wasn't to my liking, I replaced it. If an internal component is of poor quality, I replace it. If a superfluous safety exists within, it is removed. If a mechanism isn't operating properly, it is tuned.

If it won't do what I want it to do, I fix that.

May 17, 2011, 12:02 PM
I try and minimize the customization that I do. From what I've seen, the more things get customized, the less reliable they seem to become - especially so with ARs and 1911s. Don't get me wrong, I have a few toys I've tweaked but they are just that, toys, not weapons for self defense.

451 Detonics
May 17, 2011, 12:30 PM
Some are pretty much as they left the factory like my HK P7M8, others...well...

my Action Pistol Glenn Custom 686

the 38 Super I built for Action Pistol...

May 17, 2011, 12:32 PM
None. Everything I own is stock, including my CAS guns. I guess with a little work they would be "race ready" but I am a traditionalist. The less tinkering, IMHO, the less chance something could go wrong, even with enhancements by professionals.

I also have the weird theory that the item should perform out of the box, as designed without a large amount of work.

Ala Dan
May 17, 2011, 03:37 PM
None of my weapons are "customized"; my LB TRS is the only semi-custom
firearm that I own. No name, no say'in, no gold in-lay will be found on any of
my weapons~! ;) :D

Standing Wolf
May 17, 2011, 05:37 PM
Virtually all my guns have custom stocks and trigger jobs, and as well as I can recall off the top of my head, all the stainless steel models have been bead-blasted. I've never done anything to my only rifle but mount a scope on it; then again, it's been to the range twice since I bought it in 2002.

Aren't we all
May 17, 2011, 06:24 PM
All mine are bone stock! :neener:
Sue me! :evil:

May 17, 2011, 07:43 PM
I've had one AR-15 receiver (not yet assembled into a rifle, but one day) laser-engraved, but that's it. I wouldn't mind having some clever slogans, etc, one day put onto some of my guns, but I'd rather own another gun than pay for a lot of filligree.


May 17, 2011, 07:46 PM
All of mine are modified for fit, functionality, or reliability. No bells & whistles.

May 17, 2011, 10:11 PM
I hit both ends of the spectrum. All my handguns are bone stock. No, wait...umm. lemme see. 1 has been modified. No, wait - do grips count? How about Gun Kote and Duracote...? Or sights... Ok, well - let's just say, like maybe 6 or so are modified to some extent. Rifles and shotguns run from bone stock to complete custom. Like ice cream, I like all flavors...

May 17, 2011, 10:27 PM
Most have something done, if only better sights and slings mounted on rifles. Smith revolvers are pretty close just right, but I prefer the service size hammer, so have ground a couple target hammers down to service size, slicked up actions a little, put grooved triggers in one or two that came with smooth triggers, and improved the feel of factory grips. None of which compromises reliabilty, but improves feel and function for me.

The Lone Haranguer
May 17, 2011, 10:28 PM
Only minimally. I will change things like sights and grips if they don't suit me. But improperly executed or poorly chosen modifications will make what was a good gun unreliable.

May 17, 2011, 11:11 PM
All my rifles are wood-stocked except one, a Ruger 77 from 20 years ago when they had those turriblenasty green inserts in the forearm and pistol grip. Before I even fired it I replaced them with simple walnut and have gotten comments on them ever since. Maybe it's not much, but I like it.

May 17, 2011, 11:13 PM
Not very

The most ive done was w/ a 1911, had it throated and polished and added a set of ergo grips on it

May 18, 2011, 06:43 AM
I have a few which would be considered customized; some by custom shops and a few others by me. A lot of them I leave box-stock, simply because they work so well out the box, I dont have any reason or need to customize them.

May 18, 2011, 05:42 PM
Shotgun bone stock.

Pistols: I generally do something with the grips, Glocks get Talons; I like a laser and night sights on anything remotely SD.

Rifles just optics which I don't consider modified.

May 18, 2011, 05:44 PM
oh yeah I didnt add my rifles, my ARs generally have MIAD or MOE grips and VLTOR mod stocks

May 18, 2011, 06:34 PM
I just started getting into 10/22's. I bought one, put it ins a Knoxx Axiom stock, slapped on a Mueller APV, and now I have a barrel and two stage trigger from Kidd on the way. Now I have two mroe 10/22's, one will be modded to look like a M1 Carbine and the other is a "target model" and will sport a scope and might have a hornet or another Kidd trigger, dependiong on how I feel about dropping that much cash on a .22 rifle.

May 18, 2011, 07:22 PM
I've thought of one thing I would (given unlimited funds) *like* to do to any guns I have with exposed hammers: make them ring hammers. Why? I don't know. Do ring hammers serve any but an aesthetic purpose? I don't know. I do know that I like their look better than I do spur hammers.

(Am I missing something, btw? Are there any instances where a ring hammer is a liability?)


May 18, 2011, 07:36 PM
I've got a few that have had some work done on them beyond the usual grip changes:

S&W 360J - rechambered to 9mm (9x23), cut for moonclips, chamfered forcing cone, action job, 1/2 bobbed hammer, trigger smoothed/rounded/polished, fiber optic front sight, cylinder refinished with NP3, CT laser grips.

S&W 586 L-Comp - This is a PC gun but it needed a couple of little touches to make it right for me. The charge holes have been more aggressively chamfered, the front of the cylinder beveled just a bit, trigger smoothed and rounded, trigger and hammer bright polished, after the work was done I had it parkerized and added a set of Nill grips.

Detonics CombatMaster - Trigger guard undercut, mainspring housing shaved and recontoured, all edges broken, 11deg crown on muzzle, hammer half bobbed, Fusion carbon fiber trigger, entire gun bright polished except topstrap which is bead blasted, grips are thin alumagrips.

Savage MKII BV - Muzzle recrowned deep 11deg, parkerized, pillar bedded in Sharp Shooter Supply stock. Wicked accurate.

S&W 1917/1937 Brazilian - This gun is an old custom, all I've done is add the grips. It's had the barrel cut down and recrowned, front sight rewelded and recontoured, hammer bobbed and serrated, action job. I added the bonded ivory grips.

May 18, 2011, 08:10 PM
The only NEW gun I have bought in several decades is a Colt Rain Gun in January. I looked at all the features I wanted on a 1911 and came up with this one. Much cheaper than adding them. The only changes I have made is the Pachmyer wrap around grip and a MSH with the same type of rubber on the back. This I robbed off an old 1911 parts gun.

May 18, 2011, 08:14 PM
Detonics, maybe a dumb question, but what is that block below your barrel??

Link to post below, in case anyone else can answer!

my Action Pistol Glenn Custom 686 (

May 18, 2011, 08:39 PM
Colt 1924 custom by the late Austin Behlert.

May 19, 2011, 07:55 AM
I've got a set of Ebony grips on order for my Astra A90. The plastic ones cracked... so yeah :D Gives me reason for new ones!

Don't know the species, but the wood has a chocolate color with jet black grainage. Yumm!

May 19, 2011, 11:44 AM
They have my very own unique set of fingerprints on them. Other than that no modifications other than grips, and optics.

Cop Bob
May 19, 2011, 01:55 PM
Every Smith & Wesson I own I have done my own trigger work on... (I really did go to school for that)... Some of match guns are true "Race Guns" of their day... Douglas or Shilen Barrels, Bo-Mar Ribs... Lots of the them I have either added Houge Grips or spent a few hours with the Dremel tool reshaping oversize factory rosewoods to fit my hand..

My AR's a few bolt-ons... nothing real extravagant.. My Mini's, shortened one to 16".. Marlin Lever in 44mag, Shortened to 16", added low 1.5X Leopold..

Several of my .30 cal Bolt guns have been re barreled with #5 taper Lilja's 3 groove 1-12 and a few wildcats.... Two have had stocks replaced with composites and 20MOA ramps... 4.5X14 IR mildots.. one cut in a ..330 Tight Neck, will shoot just a hair over 1/4MOA... Crowns reworked with cut-in muzzle brakes,, (15 evenly spaced holes .127 dia. holes cut @ 11degrees on a wire EDM..What recoil?)

I have a .338-300 Rem Ultra Mag wildcat on a 700 action with a Lilja Barrel that has been fluted, but other than the fluting and the muzzle brake EDMed into the end, it looks pretty bone stock... Good Shooter, however on small doses... it does shove a mite..

All of my 1911 style pistols have had throat work, Three of them have had all the edges broke, front and back straps checkered, sight changes, bushings changed, spring kits, ambidextrous safeties, Two of the safeties cut to work with CT lazer Grips...

I really need to post some of this from the house where I can take some pics... kinda hard to do from the office...

May 19, 2011, 06:06 PM
One thing I always do, if a rifle doesn't have it already, is to set it up to use 1 1/4" sling swivels on the bottom of the rifle, so I can use a GI web sling with it. What can I say, I'm an Appleseed shoot boss and I love the benefits of a sling as a marksmanship aid. I even set an AK up like this... I gave it a railed forearm and a QD sling swivel up front. I have a couple 10/22s that I set up as training rifles for Appleseed with studs, swivels, slings, tech sights/scope, auto bolt release, and target hammer. I have a scope mount and adjustable cheek riser for my M1A, a side saddle shell holder for my M500, and a pocket clip for my Kel Tec .380. However, my M-1 Garand and CZ-452 are bone stock.

I've been thinking about doing some real personalization on some of my rifles... maybe a custom rattle can camo job, and/or some cool libertarian phrase painted on the stock, like a latin motto or something. Maybe embroider some stuff on my slings. You know, something different to set my stuff apart.

May 19, 2011, 07:39 PM
This custom built M14S Tanker took close to 2years to complete, but turned out to be a very satisfying project in the end......

I was extremely meticulous/picky when it came to the parts for this rifle.

NOS/Like new only.

Here is the parts list:

Receiver : M14S Norinco

Barrel : Criterion 18.5in std contour chrome lined with finished 762mm NATO chamber. (LRB ARMS)

Bolt : NIW TRW along with NIW bolt guts to include a chrome firing pin. Headsapace = 1.633

Trigger group = All new Winchester

Gas cylinder = New outa the can Winchester along with the rest of the gas system minus a few parts mentioned below.

Gas piston= Sadlak tin coated

Gas lock = SEI Gas lock front sight (hooded)

Rear sight assembly = WRA

Op-rod = Norinco (1piece forged unit similar to TRW op-rods)

Op-rod spring = New GI

Op-rod spring guide = Sadlak

Bolt stop assembly = Norinco

Flash hider = SEI direct connect Vortex

Scope mount = An early "split rail" ARMS #18.

Hand-guard = GI with hg clip. Painted it with Krylon camo black.

Stock assembly = KMT butt-plate , and the stock itself is an early (without any checkering) synthetic GI. Also filled in the selector lever hole, prepped it for paint, and hit it up with Krylon's camo brown. GI M14 sling...and yes...I have it on backwards as I like it that away.

She will shoot right along with a factory M1A loaded, but for less weight, better balance, and 39in of OAL vs 44in.
Already paid for itself and then some in pork/venison. Also dumped a few coyotes trying to get in the chicken house too boot!

Here she is next to her sister. (SAI M1A-A1 Bush rifle built from the factory with all USGI parts ...TRW TG/bolt/op-rod) .... minus bbl. Did the stock up myself just like the one on the M14S above.....

Both of them along with SAI XD service...

I was going to build up another using an LRB Arms M14SA receiver (once I'm back from a current deployment), but found the following rifle for sale that was already built the same way I was gonna build it anyways, so......

My next creation will be an all TRW build using a 762MM forged receiver/ Criterion bbl, or an SEI receiver along with one of their 18in tubes.

Then again..... those LRB M25 receivers are kinda sweet.....:)

I might need some more parts after all.


May 21, 2011, 12:06 AM
Most of mine have some sort of customization, be in accessories or paint jobs. I haven't gotten into trigger jobs or mechanical whatnots, just cosmetics.

May 21, 2011, 11:23 AM
a few of my collector type rifles and piotols will stay as is but everything else is full blown custom.
there isn't an off the shelf sporting rifle for under $3500 imho that doesn't still need at least $1500 in work before i would be happy with it.

May 21, 2011, 11:26 AM
Not at all

May 21, 2011, 02:58 PM
I have done at least a little work on every gun I own. Even if its just installing a scope or swapping grips, I get as much enjoyment out of working on my guns as shooting them. And yes, they all still work! ;)

May 22, 2011, 02:13 PM
Three of my guns are pretty customized the rest are mostly stock.

FN PBR XP with lots of mods including some trigger work and a polished bolt, McMillan stock and CDI Precision bottom metal.

My BHP was customized by legendary gunsmith Jim Hoag.

My Daniel Defense AR has started life as just a standard DDXV but I added a lot to it including the E-Z Car rail and Magpul parts.

I also customized my S&W 3914 by replacing the stock grips with rubber ones and swapping out the sights with night sights.

May 22, 2011, 02:16 PM
I don't know if "customized" is the right word, I'm a southpaw and have been over time modifying my Sig 226 to be more south-paw friendly, as is the mag release and a few other minor things have been swapped over, nothing major.

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