it begins....Which rifle
Carbon_15
January 26, 2003, 01:33 PM
Revolution number 2 started this morning and you are off to join the front lines to pop blue-helmet JBT's. What rifle do you grab from the safe? I excluded any uber-weapons because 90% of gun owners don't own multi thousand dollar full-auto hardware.
I'm sure this has been done before, but I havent seen it recently.
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PATH
January 26, 2003, 01:43 PM
I have a FAL but I want an M-14. Just who are these JBT's you are talking about?
NewShooter78
January 26, 2003, 01:49 PM
Well I've only got access to an old bolt action .270, so that would be what I'd have to use...but I'd rather have a M-1 Garande.
HS/LD
January 26, 2003, 01:56 PM
FN FAL
Because I have several of them.
I am GOOD with them.
I was trained with them.
They will do anything I ask.
7.62 :D
HS/LD
10-Ring
January 26, 2003, 01:56 PM
Of all the guns I've sold off or traded away, the only one I truly miss is the HK 93. So, that is the one I would try to get back. (That is of course when the political climate in the Golden State changes!)
Citadel99
January 26, 2003, 02:03 PM
Start off with a Garand. It's a piece of history that you will absolutely love. It'll spark up conversations everytime you go shoot.
Then--buy the rest.
Mark
Ian
January 26, 2003, 02:04 PM
I picked M14 because that would be my ideal choice. Limited to just what I own, it'd be my .308 scout. Why? Because they best meet my battle rifle criteria:
1) Reliability
2) Accuracy
3) Ballistic power
4) Handy & easy to use
Cableman
January 26, 2003, 02:17 PM
I would take my AR10 for the long shots and my Bushy 16" Flattop for everything else.
Baba Louie
January 26, 2003, 02:40 PM
Not on your list, but who was it that said a silenced .22 lr could/would be used to take out the ringleader of a rioting mob?
Did I say silenced? I meant ...
I saw a couple of weird things at a gunshow (SOF Convention) here years ago... One looked like a tin can filled with steel wool, another was a tin can filled with ?axle grease? Strange, they were.
Might be good for a shoot and scoot scenario anyways (But only where legal, with all necessary permits in place, of course:D ).
Wouldn't want to linger too long in any one place in any case.
I do so love these "what if" scenarios. Imagine going up against trained troops with all their FA weaponry, gas grenades, helicopters, armored personnel carriers and communication equipment. Not to mention Night Vision or Infra-red thermal imaging toys.
Hmmm. What's the Boy Scout motto?
Adios
ruger357
January 26, 2003, 02:52 PM
The good old rugged M14.
Chris Rhines
January 26, 2003, 02:57 PM
I'd take a suppressed .22LR pistol, a bunch of homemade satchel charges, and a pile of locksmithing tools. Maybe some kind of sniper rifle if I had a good place to stash it.
Open-field fighting is not good medicine for freelance revolutionaries. I'd rather play the sabetour, I'd probably live longer.
- Chris
Schuey2002
January 26, 2003, 03:14 PM
Easy.
My Hk 91! :D
ms1200
January 26, 2003, 03:21 PM
m14. its reliable, accurate,and i have plenty of mags and ammo
for it.
dude
January 26, 2003, 03:33 PM
I'm way more worried about the nut-jobs who fear that the UN is a threat to our Great Nation ........and we will have to join the front lines and start popping them off!
for them I'd keep my .30 Carbine handy
Rangerover
January 26, 2003, 04:03 PM
I'm way more worried about the nut-jobs who fear that the UN is a threat to our Great Nation ........and we will have to join the front lines and start popping them off!
:D
I'm with Dude on that one! I'm going with the Mil-Spec AR-15. It's light, I can carry a fair amount of ammo for it, and it's more than accurate enough to peel the tin foil hat from a pointed noggin at 300 meters! My second choice would be virtually anything in the AK family, for obvious reasons.
DISCLAIMER: The above post is not intended to offend or disturb those who utilize Reynolds Wrap as everyday headgear. It is apparent that they are disturbed enough without Dude and myself adding to their paranoia. We are not controlling your thoughts...I do not own a "black helicopter"...The 10th Mountain Division is not your enemy... :p
Carbon_15
January 26, 2003, 04:10 PM
dude, purely hypothetical man. I'm not paranoid, but its interesting to bounce ideas off of other like-minded folks. Fiction novels are great too :)
dude
January 26, 2003, 04:11 PM
I have a spare Black Helo for you if you need one. I spent a bit of time crewing some BIG black ones up at Ft Drum in the Mid 80s.
dude
January 26, 2003, 04:13 PM
I know Carbon......it's just your old pal FLIPPER 348 poking a bit of fun at you and your handle (I owned one)
Travis McGee
January 26, 2003, 04:19 PM
New Shooter 78:
Don't worry, if the SHTF, you will be able to trade up your .270 for an M-16A2, M-4 or MP-5 pretty quick.
Hell, keep your .270 too.
Travis McGee
January 26, 2003, 04:24 PM
Carbon_15
**"I'm not paranoid, but its interesting to bounce ideas off of other like-minded folks. Fiction novels are great too."**
Then you might want to check out my almost finished RKBA dirty war novel "Enemies Foreign And Domestic."
http://matthewbracken.web.aplus.net/
Carbon_15
January 26, 2003, 04:25 PM
dang...you nailed me
good one, even if it was a sucker punch
dude
January 26, 2003, 04:34 PM
tactical-dude
bunkie
January 26, 2003, 04:42 PM
The Garand would be the one I'd pull out of the locker. Accurate, powerful, and reliable. Also will penetrate most body armor and thin-skinned vehicles. Ammo is readily available. If things really went south, I'd either be dead or have alot of other weapons available to me. Lock-n-load, hope for the best, and squeeze 'em off. Give the wife a 12 bore w/ buck and tell her to watch my six.
Slotback
January 26, 2003, 04:45 PM
Well if everything has fallen apart, I'll grab the AR15, because that is what I have.
Gewehr98
January 26, 2003, 05:43 PM
Go away with a thicker application of tin foil on the cranium? :scrutiny:
coonan357
January 26, 2003, 05:51 PM
well the only military style rifle I have is the 1892 lebel bertier , old yes !! but for reaching out and touching things !!! great! yes I would be limited on how much I could shoot due to ammo supplies but for sniping .. other than that FAL 0r a AR-10
seeker_two
January 26, 2003, 06:14 PM
I voted bolt-action rifle, but I only own two rifles now (.303 SMLE & .22lr Romanian.) If it came to a guerrela (sp.) war, I'd rely mostly on my .22's to "creatively acquire" other materials needed to fortify my position. My heavier weapons would be used more in a defensive means.
Never underestimate the utility of a good .22. Remember the High-Standard...:D
Braz
January 26, 2003, 07:39 PM
M1A,
If a bright light appears in Long Beach Harbor, every road and hotel to the north would be crushed. It might be nice to take game at some range. The .308 can do that. In a confontation, 20 rd mags could be the edge I'd need. Let's hope this remains fiction.
Gordon
January 26, 2003, 08:38 PM
I have rifle's, from defilade,that will hang it in highest ranking local politician ear that sells out his (or her) country, from up to 1000yds everytime. They are all scoped and bolt action. Then it is enemy commanders' turns.:evil:
Coffee357
January 26, 2003, 09:39 PM
Hey wait! I'm a "JBT"! However, in the spirit of the conversation...
If we were faced with an occupying military force in our county,
(more likely UN than China I think) I would take a milspec AR
even though I believe the AK is a better choice without resupply
or spare parts. The advantages of the AR include the fact
that resupply would be possible with surplus magazines, ammo,
and parts from our adversaries and fallen allies. The flatter
trajectory also takes some of the guesswork out of those longer
shots. Also believe the 5.56 has better penetration against
the body armor we may face compared to the 7.62x39.
Coffee
Sven
January 26, 2003, 09:52 PM
What is a JBT?
-sven, in the market for his first rifle
Baba Louie
January 26, 2003, 10:36 PM
sven
JBT = jack booted thug
Adios
a9mmfan
January 26, 2003, 10:47 PM
AK-47 Because that's what I shoot best at a wide variety of distances. Otherwise, it would be a scoped 308 bolt.
sixgun_symphony
January 27, 2003, 01:20 AM
Put me down for a scoped, bolt-action rifle.
I would also want some concealable weapons and reversable clothing. Perhaps even fake mustaches, beards, and non-prescription glasses.
3 gun
January 27, 2003, 09:15 AM
Am I alone or with friends? What do they have for arms? I'd pick whatever filled the biggest void. Almost everything I have is major. My M1 Carbine being the only minor. Bolt, Carbine, M1a, Garand, I have'em all.
foghornl
January 27, 2003, 10:00 AM
US Rifle Cal .30 M-1
Popularly known as 'The Garand'
Then a well-tuned scoped bolt rifle, probably .308
Onslaught
January 27, 2003, 02:06 PM
I voted "Mil Spec AR", but mine's actually a pre-ban flat top shorty with a 14.5" fluted heavy barrel. I'd grab that, along with my USP45, Winchester Defender, Black K-Bar, Tactical Balaclavalavalala, Uber-assault half-finger gloves, and black Nomex jumpsuit...
Don't worry, I'm not paranoid... I use this stuff on the job as Mall Security :uhoh:
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