Big oops at Walmart, gun on the floor!


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chrisnoel27
May 17, 2011, 05:17 PM
I was concealed carrying my Glock 26 at Walmart yesterday when something scary happened. I decided to try on some work pants, while in the change room I took the pistol out of it's small of the back holster and placed it on the provided shelf. Tried the pants on and got my pants back on, reached for the Glock and all of a sudden got a case of the butterfingers. Dropped the gun on the damn floor, it's momentum carried it under the door and out into the open. I quickly snatched it up and waited for voices rising in panic. I heard none, I sheepishly exited the change room, went home and sulked.
Anyone else expose themselves on accident?

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hardluk1
May 17, 2011, 05:25 PM
Nope. Carried 26 years and lucky to say not yet. But one day it will happen.

malakili
May 17, 2011, 05:35 PM
It happens more often than most will admit, unfortunately. Happened to me only once, I won't go into details, but suffice it to say I won't be using a crappy nylon holster anymore.

Lessons learned: Use a good holster with proper retention and be aware of your weapon's status constantly.

In your case, I'd leave the gun in the holster, you want the trigger guard to stay covered at least.

I'll bet you a million bucks it will never happen to you again, once is enough to learn the lesson.

KimberUltra
May 17, 2011, 06:46 PM
I dropped my Ruger lc9 on the asphalt in my parking lot a few days ago. No one was around but the thumb safety broke. It's at ruger getting fixed as we speak. I was ok with it, mostly because I was glad it was a 400 dollar ruger than my 1200 dollar kimber. haha.

CoRoMo
May 17, 2011, 06:49 PM
Two employees of mine have outed me, and one business colleague that I meet with every week or so. I carry IWB in a tuckable, and if you stare long enough at my belt from behind, you're bound to ask, "What are those belt clips to?".

The three times it has happened, it bummed me out for a week or so, each time. But what can you do. I tuck in my shirts and I don't want to pocket carry a NAA mini-revolver.

Joe from N.Y.
May 17, 2011, 06:54 PM
Two employees of mine have outed me, and one business colleague that I meet with every week or so. I carry IWB in a tuckable, and if you stare long enough at my belt from behind, you're bound to ask, "What are those belt clips to?".

The three times it has happened, it bummed me out for a week or so, each time. But what can you do. I tuck in my shirts and I don't want to pocket carry a NAA mini-revolver.
yeah, i can see why. Some dude in the deli or the bank behind you looking to rob the place will take you out first, and get a free gun in the process. We never want to lose the tremendous advantage of the element of surprise.

dirtykid
May 17, 2011, 06:55 PM
While using the facilities at a local restaurant,I didnt want my SP101 to touch the bacteria-laden floor so i set it on the TP-dispenser and it slid-off and hit the tile floor with a CRACK ! Person's peeing in urinals next-door commented to each other: You ok buddy ? DDuuooohh !!

Cop Bob
May 17, 2011, 07:28 PM
Opps! It can happen.. at least it didn't go off...

Once many years ago, (diso was still the craze to give you an idea) I went to a club with some buddies after work. (Eve Shift) and one of they guys made friends with a young lovely.. they hit the dance floor.. A few minutes later, while setting at the bar, a few folks screamed, a few folks ran off the dance floor.. and setting there, framed in flashing lights in the middle of one of the lighted panels in the dance floor was my partners 4" Model 66 in all it's glory.. My partner was scrambling red faced as all get out, to recover his pistol.... after a few minutes and blank deer in the headlight looks, my partner pulled out his ID and tried to make it go away... We were setting at the bar laughing out tails off... The owners and management were all friends, as some of the guys worked side jobs there.. They were as amused as we were.... Different times.. today, it would probably be a different story...

cambeul41
May 17, 2011, 07:52 PM
I'm gimpy and have no agility. When I teach, my cane hangs on a chair near by. This summer, I casually leaned against an unstable table while waiting for student response. The table flipped and I took a fall. The rivets in my paddle magazine pouch broke, and there it was, laying on the floor in front of 30 college students. I palmed it and put it in my briefcase. No one appeared to either notice or care -- but for the rest of the period, the warned me back if I drifted toward that table.

MarkDido
May 17, 2011, 08:31 PM
Two employees of mine have outed me, and one business colleague that I meet with every week or so. I carry IWB in a tuckable, and if you stare long enough at my beltfrom behind, you're bound to ask, "What are those belt clips to?".

My colostomy bag.

Wanna see?

;)

oneounceload
May 17, 2011, 08:34 PM
Your Walmart has changing rooms?...........:D

CajunBass
May 17, 2011, 08:44 PM
My wife dropped her Bersa Firestorm 22 at Wal-Mart once. The pistol clattered down the aisle, and stopped at a fellows feet. He heard the noise, looked around, bent over to pick-up whatever had been dropped. He picked it up, and handed it to my wife while saying..."Excuse me lady...you dropped your...gun?" My wife said thanks, put it back in her pocket and went back to shopping.

She did get a carry purse after that.

chris in va
May 17, 2011, 11:35 PM
Yup.

Bought a holster meant for a Beretta 92 for my CZ 75. It sorta fits.:scrutiny:

Only my third time carrying, went to the grocery store and leaned down to get some icecream. CZ came sliding out, skittering across the floor. :eek:

I remembered enough not to catch it, "just let it go"...and fortunately there wasn't anyone else in the aisle at the time.:p

One-Time
May 18, 2011, 12:20 AM
Closest i came was while at a Wal-Mart(ironically) and i was loading our cart at the register, evidently my holster worked its way back and when I bent over I think it profiled the butt, as next thing I know a guy moved closer to me looking around my waist i guess to see if he saw what he thought he did, I just gave him a ***? look and exited the store

jcwit
May 18, 2011, 12:38 AM
I'm gimpy and have no agility. When I teach, my cane hangs on a chair near by. This summer, I casually leaned against an unstable table while waiting for student response. The table flipped and I took a fall. The rivets in my paddle magazine pouch broke, and there it was, laying on the floor in front of 30 college students. I palmed it and put it in my briefcase. No one appeared to either notice or care -- but for the rest of the period, the warned me back if I drifted toward that table.
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I assume you're also carring a piece. OK, in a college classroom in the state of Michigan. Bet that goves over good.

NavyLCDR
May 18, 2011, 12:40 AM
yeah, i can see why. Some dude in the deli or the bank behind you looking to rob the place will take you out first, and get a free gun in the process. We never want to lose the tremendous advantage of the element of surprise.

Finally! Somebody that will surely be able to post some examples of where this has happened in real life! I can't wait to read about them!

jcwit
May 18, 2011, 12:41 AM
I normally carry with an exposed holster wearing a vest covering it, or a coat in the winter. At times when shopping when reaching for an article on the top shelf the sidearm may be exposed. In Indiana, no big deal, we have the right to carry, not a right to carry concealed. However I do believe its best to keep it concealed if at all possible.

Roy Rogers
May 18, 2011, 12:50 AM
The takeaway from this thread is there are lots of folks carrying in the local WalMart. :)

CoRoMo
May 18, 2011, 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by Joe in N.Y.
yeah, i can see why. Some dude in the deli or the bank behind you looking to rob the place will take you out first, and get a free gun in the process. We never want to lose the tremendous advantage of the element of surprise.
Originally Posted by NavyLT
Finally! Somebody that will surely be able to post some examples of where this has happened in real life! I can't wait to read about them!
Navy, don't pass out from holding your breath buddy. He can't back that up. Nor could we get an example of an armed robber who first 'took out' an armed citizen who happened to be in the same establishment, only because he was printing, open carrying, whatever.

The three guys who've outed me, in all my years carrying, have spent enough time in my company, that I'm not surprised. Plus, they are all three, very gun knowledgeable themselves. The two employees actually worked for me for about 7 years before they happen to notice a couple belt clips on the waistline of their boss, whom they work with daily. Therefore, I think Joe Methead doesn't stand much of a chance then.

Heretic
May 18, 2011, 03:39 PM
I had pumped gas and was walking in to pay, when I heard a clatter. Took a couple steps before I realized my Sterling mod 302 had fallen out of my back pocket. Just went back, scooped it up and stuck it back into my pocket like it was no big deal. Still got some looks!

Nushif
May 18, 2011, 03:47 PM
My wife dropped her Baby Browning out of her cargo pocket one day while skipping through Home Depot. The people at the paint isle and me laughed. Very Hard.
"Cute" doesn't even begin to describe this situation.

"Skipping, pink haired girl with videogame tattoos drops firearm in public." BWAHAHAHAHA!

hso
May 18, 2011, 03:52 PM
We all need to be careful when away from "home" and handling our carry pieces. Be comfortable with them but don't become complacent.

Sav .250
May 18, 2011, 04:34 PM
Like you said," butterfingers." :)

ForumSurfer
May 18, 2011, 04:58 PM
I was at a family bar-b-que and that one wild child whom your relative refuses to discipline was running up and headbutting everyone. I showed up and ka-blamo...he stopped headbutting people after he got up off of the ground.

I remember once letting my pants hit the floor too fast in a public bathroom stall before I sat down. It made a loud thud on the tile and whoever was n the stall next to me flushed immediately and left really fast without washing his hands.

Then there was the extended mag release incident that made me eject the mag when reaching for my wallet. Not only did I try to catch it (let it fall...always), but I fumbled it and ended up knocking the mag across the floor about 10 feet. I learned that you should always let it fall and that particular mag release was extended too far.

springfield30-06
May 18, 2011, 05:11 PM
While using the facilities at a local restaurant,I didnt want my SP101 to touch the bacteria-laden floor so i set it on the TP-dispenser and it slid-off and hit the tile floor with a CRACK !

After reading other posts about people leaving a gun behind while in the bathroom stall, I now use the 'hammock' created by your pants to temporarily place the gun. Not only will you never forget it but it's not going to slide off the TP dispenser, nor will it touch the nasty floor.

janedoedad
May 18, 2011, 05:15 PM
Was open carrying a P11 in a Serpa holster one summer day, wearing a polo shirt and jeans. Had to go into a place where OC is frowned upon. As I was standing in the parking lot untucking the shirt, the hem caught on the paddle and flipped holster out right on the pavement. Nobody said anything except for my wife who wouldn't stop laughing. She tells me the "OH $%@&!!" look was priceless. Small scrape on the holster was the only damage.

Generally I wear a sport shirt as cover, but some days in GA it are too hot for that.

RedAlert
May 18, 2011, 05:26 PM
CoRoMo,,,,maybe one of those fabric under the shirt shoulder holsters might serve you well. I use one when I go into Seattle wearing dress shirts, etc. Completely concealed and almost as quickly accessed as an IWB with a shirt over it. No problems in the "john" either.

Here is the site:

http://www.kangaroocarry.com/

Defense Minister
May 18, 2011, 08:04 PM
If I have to remove my firearm in a public setting, I always remove the holster with the gun in it. Keeping the gun in the holster while handling it will prevent the possibility of an accidental discharge.

Defense Minister
May 18, 2011, 08:06 PM
If I remove my firearm in a public setting, I always remove the holster with the gun in it.
Doing so prevents the possibility of an accidental discharge while handling the firearm.

gym
May 19, 2011, 12:24 AM
It happens to the best of us. In 40 years it happened twice, both times in shouder rigs getting in or out of a vechicle. I don't wear them anymore. Best way to handle it is just pick it up, and reholster it. and be on your way. Neither time did anyone gasp or freak out. One time it was a crowded parking garage in Manhatten. I excused myself and that was that. If you don't make a fuss, no one will freak out most of the time.

MachIVshooter
May 19, 2011, 04:21 AM
I was on my bike, stopped to get a fresh shirt before meeting a girl. Back out in the parking lot, I hastily removed my tucked in tee and it snagged the belt clip on my P3AT. Gun must've skidded 15 or 20 feet on the asphalt. Don't think anyone noticed, though

Cop Bob
May 19, 2011, 03:24 PM
Another incident occurred some years back while were were out water skiing with myself and a couple of other officers.

We stopped for fuel and a burger at a local marina/roadhouse on the river... Not wanting to leave pistols in the boat unattended with a bunch of people milling around, Jim stuffed his little Mauser HSC in the waist band of his trunks and pulled his shirt down over it...

While we were seated at a table munching on a burger, this lady playing pool behind Jim, evidently spotted the pistol, said something to her boyfriend who moved over by Jim, Pool Cue at the ready, the girl goes and gets the owner who grabs his gun from behind the bar, we didn't know him from Adam.. He approaches us, stares at Jim, who kept eating his burger... We still were not aware that "His Slip was Showing"..

The owner said, I hear one of you has a gun... Jim never missed a bite.. he took one hand off his burger, pulled his police ID out of his shirt pocket, opened it showing the owner... Then Carl spouted off, yeah, we all got one... then we all IDed ourselves and went back to eating... Later the lady walked up to Jim as we were leaving and said she was sorry... to which he replied, "No-Mam, I'm the one who is sorry.. You did the right thing".

kd7nqb
May 19, 2011, 03:33 PM
I had a spare magazine drop out in Home depot once but never actually dropped my gun. When I took my first CCW class the instructor told us a story of when he was new to carrying he had a j-frame in an appendix carry position and the clip busted of the holster so it slid down his pant leg. The gun was resting at the bottom of his pant leg against his shoe and instead of taking it out the bottom and dropping it in a pocket he worked it back up the pant leg and worked it into his underwear.

He shared that if that situation ever happened again he would just take it out and drop it in his pocket since it would be far less odd looking.

henschman
May 19, 2011, 05:24 PM
Pistol on the ground, pistol on the ground, lookin like a fool with your pistol on the ground! :neener:

Yeah, it happens. Unfortunately, even though its something that probably happens to most people who carry if they do it long enough, it still constitutes a crime in most states. Just one more reason to get open carry passed.

I don't think most people would freak out if they saw you drop your gun. If you act nonchalant about it, they will probably either think you're a cop or otherwise someone not to be worried about... unless you look like a total scumbag or something. Still, be careful out there and carry on!

MedWheeler
May 20, 2011, 12:22 AM
As an off-duty cop, I dropped a S&W M59 in a bank parking lot while exiting my pickup truck there. Don't think anyone saw it.
More recently, like a couple of months ago, I took my two-year old daughter to her weekly swim lesson. The gym that hosts these lessons is part of the local hospital system, and follows its no-weapons policy, so I usually leave my gun in the car. That day, I forgot, and still had it on my belt. To limit time on the changing room, I usually stop poolside at the bench, drop off our bag (towels, etc.) and doff my shirt as well. I then take our swimsuits to the locker room, and sometimes carry her there. That day, I doffed my short as usual, picked up my daughter, and trotted off to the locker room, passing the lap pool (which is next to the "lesson" pool) and several people seated along it. My ITB-carried Kel-Tec PF-9 was in clear view on my belt. I quickly realized this, re-positioned my daughter to try to use her body and legs to cover the gun, and returned to the bench for my shirt. My gun had to have been seen, but nothing about it came up. (It could have been an issue not only because of the system's policy, but also due to the prohibition on open-carry in Florida.)

Toforo
May 20, 2011, 12:49 AM
Pistol on the ground, pistol on the ground, lookin like a fool with your pistol on the ground! :neener:

Yeah, it happens. Unfortunately, even though its something that probably happens to most people who carry if they do it long enough, it still constitutes a crime in most states. Just one more reason to get open carry passed.

I don't think most people would freak out if they saw you drop your gun. If you act nonchalant about it, they will probably either think you're a cop or otherwise someone not to be worried about... unless you look like a total scumbag or something. Still, be careful out there and carry on!
Yeah, it happens. Unfortunately, even though its something that probably happens to most people who carry if they do it long enough, it still constitutes a crime in most states. Just one more reason to get open carry passed.

So if, while "open carrying" here in MO where it's legal, dropping my gun on the ground is ok but dropping on the ground while carrying concealed isn't ok?

Accidentally dropping your gun on the ground is a safety issue, not an illegal act of "brandishing" your weapon.

Most states (as used in text) ??
Which ones?

wow6599
May 20, 2011, 01:27 AM
So if, while "open carrying" here in MO where it's legal

Careful...........it's up to the city you are in - http://www.opencarry.org/mo.html

Back to the OP, always buy a holster designed for your CCW. I hate cheap holsters that "work" for several different guns........and use a good belt.

armoredman
May 20, 2011, 02:14 AM
The takeaway from this thread is there are lots of folks carrying in the local WalMart.
Are you kidding? You SEEN the people that hang out at Wally World?!? :D

As for dropping it in public, well, it was a locked bathroom, but the P-01 went SPLOOSH! In an UNUSED toilet bowl. Took three days for the Crimson Trace lasergrips to dry out enough to work, but you should have heard the girl at CTG snicker when I asked if that was covered under warrantee.
It isn't.

makarovnik
May 20, 2011, 04:16 AM
I hate it when that happens. Don't make me tell the story about my pistol sliding down my pant leg and onto the floor by the urinal... Yuck! That uric acid really does a number on the old finish.

Bonesinium
May 20, 2011, 04:44 AM
I've dropped my M9 down my flight suit leg when the strap on the shoulder holster apparently loosened up right in front of about 60 something people. Wasn't a big deal but I kind of scared myself when my finger slightly slipped into the trigger guard momentarily when trying to pull it out the bottom of my pant leg. I hate that damn holster. Dropped it twice before too (unconcealed and onto the ground).

george29
May 20, 2011, 10:26 AM
It has happened to me when I carried in a belt holster, never when I carry inside pocket.

Toforo
May 20, 2011, 10:58 AM
Careful...........it's up to the city you are in - http://www.opencarry.org/mo.html

Back to the OP, always buy a holster designed for your CCW. I hate cheap holsters that "work" for several different guns........and use a good belt.
Yeah, they told me that when I got my CCW and down at work before I retired.

CoRoMo
May 20, 2011, 05:53 PM
CoRoMo,,,,maybe one of those fabric under the shirt...
Thanks, but I'm not into the man-zier or underwear holsters. Maybe someday if my man-breasts get unmanageable. My rig is good the way it is. It has evolved for years and it is now what I like the best. Someone PM'd me another recommendation to keep my belt clips hidden, but jeez, I don't friggin care if some other gun-nut is able to identify what I've got hitched up. I suppose I understand the whole petrified-by-fear-of concealment failure, but I don't share it. It's not illegal here. If I'm printing or whatever, I'm basically open carrying, and I sometimes do that too. Big deal.

ForumSurfer
May 20, 2011, 05:59 PM
I don't friggin care if some other gun-nut is able to identify what I've got hitched up. I suppose I understand the whole petrified-by-fear-of concealment failure, but I don't share it. It's not illegal here. If I'm printing or whatever, I'm basically open carrying, and I sometimes do that too. Big deal.

Same here. I know that sometimes I may print a teeny bit when bent over or stretching at odd angles, but I really don't care and will never be convinced otherwise.

The only way to fix it is to wear baggier clothes or wear a smaller gun...neither is a compromise I am willing to make.

I'm ok with it, ymmv.

rogertc1
May 20, 2011, 06:50 PM
Man..never happen to me . i must be a retard?

rogertc1
May 20, 2011, 07:02 PM
Famous quote...Forrest Gump: poo happens.

CZguy
May 20, 2011, 07:35 PM
Yeah, they told me that when I got my CCW and down at work before I retired.

They were simply wrong. Open carry in Missouri is unfortunately, a piece meal law, on a city by city basis. Read the link that wow6599 posted.

RugerMcMarlin
May 20, 2011, 07:45 PM
Walmart Thats the kind of thing that would happen to me, except when I opened the door a 4 year old would hand it back to me. OOH new favorite nightmare...thats not in anyway to make you feel worse, I just saying it could have been much worse, your just embarassed now, what if you'd blown off your toe and had to limp out, leaving a blood trail....

ironhead7544
May 20, 2011, 10:34 PM
Your holster has to retain the gun under any circumstances. Dont take it out of the holster. If you drop it in the bathroom of WalMart someone may pick it up and run. You wont even see who it is. Also, if you take it out you may forget it there. I like the IWB from Andrews Custom Leather. Never had the gun fall out. Cost a little more but worth it.

Bohemus
May 21, 2011, 07:24 PM
I never droped my gun, but once i was pulling out my laptop from backpack in crowded college coridor when fully loaded magazine of my VZ-58 poped out and hit the floor. Few students noticed it, but noone cared...

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