My new FNP-40


PDA






HOOfan_1
May 17, 2011, 11:03 PM
First some pictures

http://i55.tinypic.com/34g2i5k.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/t5krb7.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/1443d03.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2e0tws8.jpg

It is an FNP-40 model 47574, with the de-cocker and safety, as well as front slide serrations. Came with 3 14 round magazines

Reading the manual however, is stated "do not use hydrocarbon, ammonia or teflon based cleaners or lubricants"

Well hydrocarbons are petroleum, most cleaners have ammonia and I've read CLP has teflon.

WTH am I supposed to use? I bought some Break Free CLP specifically to use on this gun.

If you enjoyed reading about "My new FNP-40" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
TYFOOON
May 17, 2011, 11:05 PM
Congratulations!!!!

I love FN guns!!!!

I have the FNP-9 and LOVE it!

Great looking piece! Congrats again!!!!

Fooon

wow6599
May 17, 2011, 11:09 PM
I have been using Copper-Klenz, Break-Free CLP and FP-10 on my FNP .45.......no problems yet.

YMMV

bbuddtec
May 18, 2011, 09:04 PM
What a beaut, yep, jealous :)

CZ57
May 18, 2011, 09:58 PM
Very nice pistola!;)

HOOfan_1
May 18, 2011, 10:12 PM
Taking it out to shoot tomorrow

cslinger
May 18, 2011, 10:23 PM
Well it better darn well shoot as it should or number 19 will have hell to pay. :evil:

Those FNPs really intrigue me. Seem to be very good pistols.

HOOfan_1
May 19, 2011, 09:47 PM
Ok went and shot it today.

Shot 50 aluminum case 165 grain FMJ Blazers
49 180 grain FMJ Magtech
99 180 grain FMJ Remington UMC

The very first magazine of the day didn't lock the slide on empty, the rest of the day didn't have any problem with it.

It shoots to the left of the point of aim, so I am going to have to get that adjusted. Once I figured out where to hold, I was keeping everything in an 8 inch circle at 10 yards. Not the greatest, but my first time with this gun, my first time shooting .40 S&W. I think I can get it better.

I was hoping it was just my shooting, but I shot my Ruger Security 6 and was keeping everything in a 2 inch circle and shot my dad's Llama 1911 .45 ACP and was keeping them in 2-3 inches. Best I have ever shot with the Llama and it shoots to the left of aim too. Maybe if I had shot the FNP last and not first I would have been properly warmed up.

I'll post some scans of some targets later.

contender
May 19, 2011, 11:45 PM
Reading the manual however, is stated "do not use hydrocarbon, ammonia or teflon based cleaners or lubricants"

Well hydrocarbons are petroleum, most cleaners have ammonia and I've read CLP has teflon.

WTH am I supposed to use?

this comes to mind.

http://www.ballistol.com/product_Firearms.htm

http://www.ballistol.com/1_Ballistol%202010%20Amazing%20Story%20Flyer%20PROOF3.pdf

rather low-tech in a high tech world............but it works on a multitude of things........

HOOfan_1
May 20, 2011, 12:01 AM
From what I can find, Ballistol contains mineral oil....i.e. hydrocarbons

HOOfan_1
May 22, 2011, 07:16 PM
Ok some pictures of the target as I promised

My point of aim was the 7 to the right of the bull.

http://i52.tinypic.com/j9ptfp.jpg


http://i55.tinypic.com/ejy7bk.jpg


http://i51.tinypic.com/15p05cj.jpg


not the tightest groups, but this was my first trip to the range since February, and I shot the FNP first. I think once I get used to it, and get more practice it will shoot better for me.

I shot the Ruger Single Six next, it just doesn't have a peer for accuracy, or maybe shoot-ability among my hand guns. Everything under the pasties is from that gun as well...couple of fliers though

http://i53.tinypic.com/10xes0j.jpg


Then I shot my dad's Llama 1911

http://i56.tinypic.com/kaqxhv.jpg


http://i51.tinypic.com/2duhtgm.jpg

harmon rabb
May 22, 2011, 07:17 PM
well... a 1911 is a 1911 :o

KAS1981
May 22, 2011, 07:27 PM
Nice looking piece. Like I said in my other thread, these FN's are growing on me.

I gotta find one in person.

REAPER4206969
May 22, 2011, 07:33 PM
What kind of craptastic materials are FN making these out of to include a warning like that?

That rules out nearly all solvents and lubricants. Including NATO spec BreakFree CLP.

HOOfan_1
May 22, 2011, 07:45 PM
That rules out nearly all solvents and lubricants. Including NATO spec BreakFree CLP.

That was my thought as well. However, everyone on the FN forums seems to have been using stuff like Hoppes and Rem Oil and CLP on theirs with no ill effect.

They state in the manual to ask your dealer or armor what is ok to use. I wish instead they stated in the manual what they suggest you use.

Of course they also state in the manual that only law enforcement or military should cock the hammer by pulling it back with their thumb, all others should only cock it by pulling back the slide.

I am assuming that 99% of the warnings and suggestions in the manual are legalese CYA material.

REAPER4206969
May 22, 2011, 08:14 PM
I'm sure using such products would be fine, but that warning is very odd.

RichSenecal
May 22, 2011, 08:32 PM
I have been using a product called Corrosion-X as my single gun cleaning, lubricating and preserving product for about 10 years now. It works great and I love it. I using it on everything metal and have never had a problem with it. Plus, I have never had a bit of rust on anything that I use it on.

I know that it does not contain ammonia or Teflon, but it probably contains hydrocarbons.

Nice pics by the way, thanks for sharing them with us.

Snowbandit
May 22, 2011, 08:52 PM
I think you will find the owners manual actually says:

Notice! Never soak your firearm in hydrocarbons, ammonia, trichloroethylene or TeflonŽ-based lubricants as they can damage to your pistol.

That doesn't seem to me to preclude the proper use of those products as cleaning agents. You just don't want to leave a plastic framed pistol in a bucket of one of them over night. Clean them up, wipe them down and put them away. They will be fine.

HOOfan_1
May 22, 2011, 09:05 PM
I think you will find the owners manual actually says:

Notice! Never soak your firearm in hydrocarbons, ammonia, trichloroethylene or TeflonŽ-based lubricants as they can damage to your pistol.



no...this is an exact quote from the manual


never use hydrocarbons, trichloroethylene, ammonia nor teflon-based lubricants as they can cause damage to your pistol

from page 35 of the FNP 40 owner's manual.

Snowbandit
May 22, 2011, 09:30 PM
That's funny!!!!!!

My quote was from the 2009 edition of the owners manual for the FNP-45. Must be the 40 is more sensitive.

Maybe just putting them in the dishwasher, like some do with their Glocks, is a better idea after all.

kenhwind
May 22, 2011, 09:47 PM
I had one, mine was single action. My brother's is double action. The one I want is both. Push the safety / decocker up and it functions like a single action auto. Down and the safety / decocker works like a double action auto.
Now I like that feature and will replace my FNP 40 with one.

AZ Five seveN
May 22, 2011, 11:37 PM
Very nice gun! Congrats!

P.S. I hate how big FN's cases are!! ;)

wow6599
May 22, 2011, 11:53 PM
P.S. I hate how big FN's cases are!!

This is so true. Mine can't fit in my safe, unless I rearrange some stuff.....and that ain't going to happen.

On a side note, anyone know why FNP mags won't work in a FNX?

lawson4
May 23, 2011, 07:56 AM
^^^^^ FNP mags are made with the release engagement on each side of the mag and are cut in.
The FNX engagement is in the middle for the ambi release and protrudes out.

lawson4

HOOfan_1
September 4, 2011, 09:52 PM
Well my FNP was getting lonely. My revolvers pretended it didn't exist. My old War Horses 1911 and P38 called it a whipper snapper and told it to "cut its hair, turn that music down and get a metal frame like a responsible pistol"

Gander Mountain had a decent sale (yeah...Gander Mountain....) on Gen 3 Glocks so I happened to buy the last Glock 19 they had in stock. If it weren't for the sale, I would have bought a Ruger SR9...eventually I will anyway.

http://i56.tinypic.com/123skk0.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ni4077.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2uqivde.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/vr32ty.jpg

dcarch
September 5, 2011, 02:47 PM
I've cleaned my FNP with both Break-free and Rem-Oil, with no ill effects.

HOOfan_1
September 9, 2011, 04:39 PM
Took my prized polymer pistols plinking today. Well not plinking, no tin cans allowed on my range :(, but for the sake of alliteration.

I've now shot 783 through my FNP-40. Today was the first day I had a failure of any kind, and that was due to bad ammo. I am sure some would say, the most reliable guns will feed and shoot anything, but this was one of my reloads and apparently I didn't inspect them close enough when loading into the magazine, because the bullet was crooked in the case, the brass had gouged into the plating and the bullet was bulging the brass out a bit at one end. It looked like a problem created at the reloading bench. The pistol fed the bad round into the chamber, but it got stuck in the chamber about 1/8 inch from fulling closing into battery. It took some effort to pull the slide back and eject it. I was afraid at first it would be stuck with a live round partially chambered. I'd say 783 rounds, 498 of which were reloads, and only a single failure which was due to a bad round instead of the gun is pretty good. I am not really sure that round would have chambered in a Glock or any other auto.


First time I have ever shot a Glock, or a striker fired pistol at all. I find the complaints about the trigger pull to be very overstated. I will say that after 100 fairly quick rounds through it though, the trigger safety was a very tiny bit annoying. It didn't hurt, is just felt odd. I've been shooting a 1911 and a P38 all my life and now my FNP for the past 5 months. I had no problem with how the Glock pointed. In fact I probably shot a tiny bit better with it than the FNP, although the 9mm is easier to shoot well I suppose.

All of these were shot at 10-12 yards.

After loading 3 mags of 14, I am left with 8 in a 50 round box, so this was a mag of 8

http://i53.tinypic.com/34rano1.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2wh19pu.jpg

I usually do a fairly slow fire, emptying a 14 round Mag in about 20 -30 seconds. On this mag I tried a quick fire (nothing like Hickok45's) but I would say I emptied the 14 rounds in about 10 seconds maybe less, and got one of my best groups

http://i53.tinypic.com/24org3d.jpg

I will say those 180gr. .40 caliber rounded flat nose punch a much cleaner hole than 115gr. 9mm round nose

http://i56.tinypic.com/34o61wz.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/v7sj1j.jpg

HOOfan_1
December 4, 2011, 05:02 PM
Well I am up to 1083 rounds through the FNP now. Only 1 malfunction so far, that was a bullet that was loaded into the case crooked...round chambered, but got stuck about a centimeter from going into full battery...took a lot of force to eject it too.

I decided to practice some double action shooting, shot about 5 or 6 double action at this target. 9-10 yards.

http://i42.tinypic.com/ejd0xv.jpg

Glock is up to 450 rounds now too...5 malfunctions all due to underloaded ammo that wouldn't allow it to completely cycle

http://i40.tinypic.com/35cfthv.jpg

Sill can't shoot either as well as the old 1911 though.

http://i39.tinypic.com/34ypdub.jpg

dcarch
December 4, 2011, 06:40 PM
Very nice!

If you enjoyed reading about "My new FNP-40" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!