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pohill
May 17, 2011, 11:15 PM
I just got this Remington-Beals .36 Navy - I just could not pass it up. It's in great shape - nice bore with good rifling, the action is smooth and tight. I can't find any info on the engraving - it looks as old as the gun but I don't think they were factory engraved. I've never seen an engraved one before - any ideas or info?
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/DSCF3296.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/DSCF3301.jpg

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BHP FAN
May 18, 2011, 12:44 AM
Saweet!

col.lemat
May 18, 2011, 02:57 PM
Nice looking Remington Beals. I dont recall ever seeing one engraved and do not know it they were ever factory engraved. Who ever did yours did a nice job. Enjoy it, looks like a nice shooter.

arcticap
May 18, 2011, 03:00 PM
That looks like it's a very special Remington.
My guess is that it is factory engraved based on the fact that I found photos of a Remington Smoot revolver that has somewhat similar factory engraving.
I don't know which Smoot model number is purportedly factory engraved below, but the NRA states that the Smoot Number 1 was made 1875-1877.

One idea would be to query an antique gun appraiser/dealer for any info. about your seemingly factory engraved Remington.

http://www.davidcondon.com/

Factory engraved Remington Smoot revolver:

http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/engraved-smoot-revolver.htm

Remington Smoot Number One at the NRA Museum:

http://www.nramuseum.com/the-museum/the-galleries/the-american-west/case-43-the-stars-sixguns-frontier-justice/remington-smoot-new-model-no-1-revolver.aspx

pohill
May 18, 2011, 03:59 PM
Someone put some time into it at some point. The store where I bought it did not know if it was factory engraved but they thought it might be.
Thanks for the info.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/DSCF3311.jpg

Norton Commando
May 18, 2011, 08:57 PM
Well I don't know if it is or isn't "factory" engraved but I do know it's one fine looking piece!

Jason

Berkley
May 19, 2011, 01:03 PM
This Remington Police was sold by a major auction house as "factory engraved". Style looks similar.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2yo3jpd.jpg

pohill
May 19, 2011, 01:57 PM
Interesting. Do you have any more info on that gun? What auction house was it?
Thanks.

Berkley
May 19, 2011, 03:45 PM
James D. Julia, October 9th-11th, 2006 firearms auction, Lot No. 229. You will have to register (free) to search their past auction listings.

pohill
May 19, 2011, 04:27 PM
I'll check it out. I thought it might be James Julia. I bought this Remington in southern Maine - Julia is about 2 hrs further north. It's funny but I've seen very few antique guns in Maine - one antique dealer told me that James Julia has that market all wrapped up.
Thanks.

pohill
May 19, 2011, 04:46 PM
Gotta love those engraved revolvers. The bottom one is a Signature Series Colt .36. I can't bring myself to shoot it.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/DSCF3331.jpg

oxide80
May 19, 2011, 07:20 PM
That was a nice find! I don't think I have seen any antique revolvers like that in souther maine's antique shops or auctions since I was a kid going with my parents.

pohill
May 19, 2011, 08:30 PM
I buy most, or all of my guns at the Kittery Trading Post in Kittery, Maine. So far I've gotten a Savage & North .36, an 1851 Colt .36, a Whitney .36, a Belgian double barrel, the Remington-Beals, two Signature Series Colts, and just about everything else - Piettas, Remingtons, High Standard.
Here's a link to their site. Scroll down to Search Our Guns and poke around.
For BP revolvers, click on ACTION, then Muzzleload Handgun or Long Gun. Some of the deals are great, some just OK. They usually don't list everything - the Rem I just bought was in the case for a week but never made it to their site.
http://www.ktpguns.com/

oxide80
May 20, 2011, 11:19 AM
I'm surprised it lasted that long in the case, I don't live far from KTP, and go there often just to look around. Last time I was there I was temped to pick up one of the ASM Walkers they had, but forgot my toy fund debit card at home. They are also the only place locally that carry decent 8mm Mauser rounds in stock...

pohill
May 21, 2011, 10:02 AM
One engraver's name keeps popping up as I poke around - Louis D. Nimschke. It looks like everyone wants to claim that their gun was engraved by him, but he did engrave a huge amount of guns (early Remingtons) and his style was pretty unique (and similiar to what's on my revolver). Apparently his work was copied and faked alot, but one site said that he wasn't copied when he started out in the early 1860s because he wasn't known at that time. I contacted James Julia for an appraisal - just waiting to hear from them.
Gotta love the history of these old guns.
Here's one site:
http://www.georgemadis.com/987/NL1-1.html

Indian Outlaw
May 21, 2011, 10:32 AM
I have seen one other Beals that had that type of engraving. It was on gunbroker two or three years ago.

BHP FAN
May 21, 2011, 06:02 PM
mine are Piettas....

BHP FAN
May 21, 2011, 06:03 PM
mine are repros...
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af11/hut-man/remingtons.jpg

BHP FAN
May 21, 2011, 06:04 PM
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af11/hut-man/1890_1.jpg

pohill
May 21, 2011, 07:40 PM
There's an engraver who comes into the Maine store every once in awhile and sets up a table - he'll engrave any gun. But it's pricey - $300+.

pohill
May 24, 2011, 08:13 PM
I sent some pics to the James Julia auction house in Maine (they sold a Walker for $920,000 last year). They give free appraisals. They said it looks like the gun was factory engraved and they put a pretty hefty value on it if I want to consign it with them. I told them not yet. Good people to deal with. Great website.
http://jamesdjulia.com/firearms.asp

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