About those price increases - FYI


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UpTheIrons
May 19, 2011, 12:44 PM
We've been told time and again by the naysayers that the "supposed" coming price increases are just a ploy by retailers to drive traffic and sales, even after they gave us information showing what was going up when and why.

Well, they have officially begun. I just got this in my Facebook feed from Powder Valley:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5229/5736706513_b6bb0d68c0.jpg

Sure, it isn't April 1, or May 1, or June 1, but the rising prices of commodities have caught up to us. Welcome to the "new normal." :(

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22-rimfire
May 19, 2011, 01:11 PM
Never expected prices to go down.

UpTheIrons
May 19, 2011, 07:32 PM
Neither did I.

I was simply responding to those who insisted that the increases were just inter-web rumors and were never gonna happen. That they were just going to cause another rush of hoarders to go out and strip the shelves bare.

Just documenting the facts so that when the "they're drivin' up the prices of ammo again!" posts begin, the posters will be reminded that we were told this would happen several months ago.

Sometimes an advisory note about a price change is just that - not anything nefarious from "Big Ammo".

Ignition Override
May 19, 2011, 09:45 PM
I've been watching the dozen lowest-priced types on Ammo seek each week for about a year.
As of a few days ago, I did not notice any increases for the lower price/round on.308, .303 or 7.62x39.

And two days ago at Bass Pro, .22 was unchanged.

Are businesses going to wait until ammo being manufactured now is shipped to the stores?
Three weeks ago at our local Bass Pro, the gun staff had Not been told of any price increases.

UpTheIrons
May 19, 2011, 11:20 PM
The last stuff I saw was price increases slated for either May 1 or June 1 from the manufacturers. The retailers may be keeping their prices as-is until the current stock is gone and the stock with the "new and improved" prices start to arrive.

I haven't seen much of a change yet, either, but knew it was on the way. This is the first definitive notice I've seen that the increases are filtering down.

22-rimfire
May 19, 2011, 11:27 PM
I haven't seen any significant changes yet in my small world. I continue to buy ammo on a regular basis. I will buy it at the higher price after it happens. But unless you buy a lot at one time or shoot a lot, the touted price increase will not affect me one way or the other. Gas/fuel and grocery prices have a far larger impact on my lifestyle. Gasoline prices are starting to ease down a bit now. Saw Sam's Club had reg unleaded for $3.58/gal earlier today.

Gordon_Freeman
May 20, 2011, 01:29 AM
I have heard this for the past several months and walmart prices have remained the same. Maybe walmart can keep prices down while other stores have to raise prices.

MikeNice
May 20, 2011, 04:54 AM
Gordon that is part of it. I remember talking to a guy that worked for a record label in their distribution department. He negotiated prices and such with retailers. He told Wal Mart that they could not agree to an $8.99 whole sale price on cds. Wal Mart said fine. We'll yank out the music section and start selling washing machines. It didn't take long for Wal Mart's whole sale price to drop.

At the time Wal Mart was selling about 30% of all physical cds in the country. So the industry bowed to Wal Mart's wants. I think you might see something similar in the Ammo section. It might also be why they brought in Tula. It keeps the price floor low and gives a false sense of savings on other items if the price goes up.

Whiskey11
May 20, 2011, 09:16 AM
Gordon_Freeman, I enjoy your name whole heartedly :)

I have already noticed the cost of reloading components going up. Sierra .308 bullets where around 28$ at Cabelas, now at 33-35. Rainier Plated .45 was at 73 (after tax) now at 81 after tax. Powder and primer hasn't changed much though....

Ole Coot
May 20, 2011, 09:26 AM
All items are increasing. At my local gun store all guns he gets in have increased on the average $25. Ammo is a supply and demand item and will increase during a rush to "stock up" as in the shortage of 380 when they became really popular.

sarge83
May 20, 2011, 09:35 AM
There are no price increases Fed Chairman Bernanke says so, especially if keep food and fuel out of the calculations.:rolleyes:

It's another summer of recovery...:barf:

Haven't bought much ammo in the last year.

youngda9
May 20, 2011, 10:47 AM
Dollar is worth less and less. More and more gov regulations on businesses. Higher and higher taxes on businesses. Ever increasing gas prices due to the gov inability to build a refinery and drill for our own damn oil to reduce domestic costs.

These cost increases are passed onto the consumers(here's a little secret...businesses don't pay taxes, the people who buy their products do)

What did you expect?

Gord
May 20, 2011, 06:04 PM
What did you expect?

+1. Everything is going up, not just ammo. Have you been keeping tabs on the price of food and fuel? This is not an "I told you so" opportunity.

Ignition Override
May 20, 2011, 10:00 PM
Even if ammo goes up 15% within a few months or so, will shoppers buy enough of it to keep retailers'/wholesalers' revenue constant?
With consumers also paying more for fuel etc, they will either shoot less, drive fewer miles, skip a few restaurant meals, drink less alcohol.

If all calibers for both domestic and imported ammo go up and stay there, will this change the demand for guns:scrutiny: (excluding .22)?

hso
May 20, 2011, 10:37 PM
No one is surprised that commodities and fuel prices drive the price of ammo.

It was the bedwetting shirt-twising aspect of the chicken littles that made everyone roll their eyes and shake their heads at the early predictors of a price increase.

armoredman
May 20, 2011, 10:51 PM
A grovery store run that cost $300 6 months ago is $450-500 now, so yeah, I feel it. I also bought components in bulk when I could, and just got some more free lead. I may be eating a lot of Top Ramen, but I am still shootin'!

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