I was wrong about the Glock 17


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RockyMtnTactical
May 19, 2011, 06:33 PM
http://www.minutemanreview.com/2011/05/my-thoughts-on-glock-17.html

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amd6547
May 19, 2011, 07:15 PM
I also started with a 40 Glock..a G23. I liked it, but never shot it as well as other handguns, and eventually I sold it.
Now, 10yrs later, I was looking for a compact 45, and found the Glock 30...
I found a good deal on one locally in a face to face deal...it came with night sights, a good holster, and four mags, all for what I would have spent for an entry level 1911.
After shooting it, and finding I shot it really well, I decided a 9mm Glock would make for some cheaper practice.
A person near me advertised a near new OD G17 for trade for a beretta 92.
I traded my beretta off and couldn't be happier. The G17 just rocks.
Accurate, light, reliable....and compact...I can CCW it in an IWB kydex clip holster with no problem.
While plenty of haters will probably show up because this thread has Glock in the title, I will boldly state that, after decades of shooting most of the best known and most widely used 9mm's in the world, the G17 is absolutely one of the best.
It certainly is THE best for my purposes.

RockyMtnTactical
May 19, 2011, 07:30 PM
Glock has it's haters because of it's success and strong following. If Glock didn't have that, the haters wouldn't care about Glock.

I don't see why folks have to hate a gun they don't personally shoot well or enjoy though.

We all have our preferences, and that's perfectly fine. No need to hate though.

Mad Magyar
May 19, 2011, 08:58 PM
Add me to the list...Ho-Hum article for the faithful...

amd6547
May 19, 2011, 09:36 PM
I myself thought I was through with Glock after my G23 experience. I went ten years without one.
It was my love for the 1911 and the 45 cartridge that led me back to Glock and the G30.
I wanted a compact 45, but my research found that of all the 1911's, the compact versions can be the most problematical.
Then, I started looking at other options in compact 45's. I immediately found the Glock 30, a pistol many consider one of the finest and most accurate Glock combat models. Having found one for what I considered a great price, I decided to give it a try, figuring I could always sell it if it didn't work out.
Well, it worked out. In the Glock 30, I got a pistol that is light, reliable with FMJ or JHP, holds 10 rounds with the option of using 13rd G21 mags...and is incredibly accurate. I shoot it as well as a full sized 1911, and don't need to make any 1911 excuses for modern 1911 non-performance.

RockyMtnTactical
May 19, 2011, 10:05 PM
Add me to the list...Ho-Hum article for the faithful...

If someone had no interest in Glocks, I don't even know why they would click on this thread. :)

amd6547
May 19, 2011, 10:11 PM
You see, the title of your thread was ambiguous...the glock haters are drawn to it because they hope it is the story of a REFORMED glock fan..."I was wrong about the Glock 17" could be interpreted in more than one way.

DougW
May 19, 2011, 11:13 PM
I hate the H&K USP SOCOM .45 because I can't afford to own one. So, I have 5 Glocks. Oh well.......:neener:

Ben86
May 19, 2011, 11:45 PM
The G17 has been popular for a long time for good reason. It's one of my favorite 9mms.

mljdeckard
May 20, 2011, 12:07 AM
I think that the G-17 is as influential and as good a design as ANY other gun. I would probably jump on a deal like that just because I think it's a great gun to have.

breacher
May 20, 2011, 12:39 AM
I hate the H&K USP SOCOM .45 because I can't afford to own one. So, I have 5 Glocks. Oh well.......
you could sell all 5 and buy one........

Mad Magyar
May 20, 2011, 10:15 AM
If someone had no interest in Glocks, I don't even know why they would click on this thread.

Just to irritate the "faithful"...:)

JTQ
May 20, 2011, 12:03 PM
Isn't that the same pond forum member Sturmgewehre uses?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEABZswQWDg

Heck isn't that Sturmgewehre in both videos? Multiple personalities?:)

md7
May 20, 2011, 05:00 PM
I don't see why folks have to hate a gun they don't personally shoot well or enjoy though.



Agreed!!

RockyMtnTactical
May 21, 2011, 01:00 AM
Isn't that the same pond forum member Sturmgewehre uses?

Haha, I never said that was me in the video. :)

I link his videos and other people's videos in my blogs to demonstrate certain points.

Skylerbone
May 21, 2011, 02:23 AM
Sort of like you bashing the M&P every chance you get. Does that make you a troll? I don't own any Glocks and might never buy one for one simple fact: I shoot the M&P much better, prefer it's trigger (once corrected) and I still don't have square hands.

Glocks are reliable, combat accurate and easy to maintain. My not buying one doesn't mean I'm a bad shot or Glock hater. I read the post title with mild interest as to what new revelation RMT had about the 17. No real surprises, carry on fanboys, carry on.

wlewisiii
May 21, 2011, 02:49 AM
Eventually I'll get a Glock & when I do, I expect it will be a 17. The only real question for me is NY-1 trigger or not. l lean towards it.

goon
May 21, 2011, 04:19 AM
I agree with Skylerbone - all the Glocks I've owned or shot ran with perfect reliability and did what they were supposed to do. I'd probably take G19, 26, or whatever the small single stack .45 version is without hesitation.
Having said that, they're just guns. Personal preference plays a big part.

Dumptruck
May 21, 2011, 01:28 PM
Had a Glock 21 (didn't part with it due to the gun being a turd, just got offered a good deal) that was nice and did everything I asked it to. Can't imagine that a G17 wouldn't be just as good.

RockyMtnTactical
May 21, 2011, 02:02 PM
Sort of like you bashing the M&P every chance you get. Does that make you a troll? I don't own any Glocks and might never buy one for one simple fact: I shoot the M&P much better, prefer it's trigger (once corrected) and I still don't have square hands.

Glocks are reliable, combat accurate and easy to maintain. My not buying one doesn't mean I'm a bad shot or Glock hater. I read the post title with mild interest as to what new revelation RMT had about the 17. No real surprises, carry on fanboys, carry on.

You are dead wrong on that. You may have mistaken me for someone else, or you misunderstood what I was saying in another post. I have never said the M&P was a bad gun or that those who like them are "fanboys" or any other backhanded insult.

I actually think the M&P is a very good gun. I've reviewed the M&P45c on my blog too and had a lot of good things to say about it.

I am not a fan of the trigger, and I am a little perplexed as to how they could have messed that aspect of the gun up, but I do believe the M&P is an excellent firearm otherwise. I personally don't shoot it very well because I don't like the trigger. However, two of my brothers own M&P's and they like them. Personal preference, but I have never "bashed" the M&P like you suggest.

All this thread is, is me stating that I have come around in regards to a misconception I had about the Glock 17 that I have overcome.

Skylerbone
May 21, 2011, 03:12 PM
I may have come across a bit harshly but you did refer to the trigger as a whole other kind of lousy (paraphrasing) in regards to another S&W (whose trigger you did not like). Reading back I was indeed putting words in your mouth and I apologize. It seems you found the Glock more suitable and we do indeed agree to disagree.

To me it's Ford or Chevy, tastes great, less filling all over again. I must concede that I've yet to meet a factory trigger that stayed that way for long, I am a bit of a fan boy when it comes to S&W and I have little more than personal experience to back up why.

Ben86
May 23, 2011, 02:10 AM
I am not a fan of the trigger, and I am a little perplexed as to how they could have messed that aspect of the gun up, but I do believe the M&P is an excellent firearm otherwise.

Agreed, great gun but the trigger is crap if left uncorrected. I can deal with heavy pulls, but grittiness is unbearable. I think S&W didn't put enough thought into that trigger, or they think people don't mind gritty triggers.

ET
May 23, 2011, 02:14 PM
I personally hate Glocks. They take up way too much space in my safe, cause me to spend too much money for range ammo because I can make one Glock gun shoot 9mm, 40s&w & 357sig with just a barrel & mag swap, make me buy 10 holsters because the next one will be the perfect concealed carry holster (along with all of the other paraphernalia that is available to customize my Glocks), and drive me crazy when I want a different manufacturer's gun... Currently I really want a S&W M&P 40 Pro with a 5" barrel, but the Glock 35 practical/tactical won't quit screaming "Hey what about me? Am I nothing more than chopped liver? What does M&P have that I don't have?" Yeah, I hate Glocks...

FruitCake
May 23, 2011, 10:28 PM
Ya my favorite Glocks are the 17 and my most favorite is the G30. I always carry my G30 perfect size for a 45 acp and it works everytime I squeeze the trigger. ( at the range of course)

RockyMtnTactical
May 23, 2011, 11:00 PM
I personally hate Glocks. They take up way too much space in my safe, cause me to spend too much money for range ammo because I can make one Glock gun shoot 9mm, 40s&w & 357sig with just a barrel & mag swap, make me buy 10 holsters because the next one will be the perfect concealed carry holster (along with all of the other paraphernalia that is available to customize my Glocks), and drive me crazy when I want a different manufacturer's gun... Currently I really want a S&W M&P 40 Pro with a 5" barrel, but the Glock 35 practical/tactical won't quit screaming "Hey what about me? Am I nothing more than chopped liver? What does M&P have that I don't have?" Yeah, I hate Glocks...

Haha, yeah, I feel your pain!

Apocalypse-Now
May 24, 2011, 12:11 AM
coolness :)

thanks for the test. a torture test is always an interesting read. most folks won't dunk their guns in mud, but glocks are supposed to be built to perform under such conditions. nice to see it functioned well again in another torture test :)

Ben86
May 24, 2011, 12:47 AM
and drive me crazy when I want a different manufacturer's gun...

I know what you mean. I really want to get an M&P9, but my G17 asks Why? Then I look at the costs of all the extra stuff I need to buy for the gun, like extra mags, holsters, break in ammo and I realize how silly I'm being to buy another polymer 9mm that isn't really any better when it comes down to performance. My glocks just make other purchases seem so impractical. Dang it.

RugerMcMarlin
May 24, 2011, 01:07 AM
G17,G27,G21,M&P9:cool:

S&W M&P 9 trigger is same problem Sigma had. Glocks Patent

RX-178
May 24, 2011, 04:33 AM
Interesting though, the new SD9 and SD40 doesn't have a completely god awful trigger like the Sigma.

Wouldn't call it good, but not bad either.

Sapper771
May 24, 2011, 06:52 AM
I have carried and tested several different handguns in search of a carry pistol that fits me and my needs best. While I enjoyed the majority of them, none of them were able to impress me more than the Glock 17. It is definitely not perfect, but it does what I need it to do. With a set of Warren Tactical sights, a Raven Concealment Phantom holster, Blackhawk Serpa mag carrier, regular dry fire practice, and weekly range trips, My Glock 17 has proved to be a reliable, accurate, and effective carry platform.

CZF
May 25, 2011, 11:19 PM
I actually shoot the Glock 17 better than the other Glocks I've owned.

Shoot CZs better than Glocks or M&Ps though.

RugerMcMarlin
May 26, 2011, 07:33 AM
Yeah G21 G17 G27 and I F$%^ N Hate them, Plastic Junk, tuperware,Nylon,polymer, Not steel,Eur-o-trash, Condom-ized,Don't never Jam,Don't-never-rust,Groups-size-O-Quarters,Hunk-O-c$%p. And I hope to be hating a G19 this summer....

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