Looking for .22 LR suppressor info.


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CZguy
May 20, 2011, 12:01 AM
Looking for .22 LR suppressor information, legal of course. Can anyone point me in the right direction.

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Tommygunn
May 20, 2011, 12:09 AM
Look for information here:
http://www.thehighroad.org/forumdisplay.php?f=58

That's the NFA Firearms and Accesories and silencers are the later.

Teh Ringworm
May 20, 2011, 01:07 PM
You might want to consider a .223/5.56 suppressor if you have other firearms chambered for that caliber. You could use the .233/5.56 suppressor on your .22 LR, but a .22LR suppressor would probably not be stout enough for a .223/5.56

LiquidTension
May 20, 2011, 05:41 PM
.223 cans are significantly larger and more expensive than .22 cans. I really don't see hanging a full size centerfire rifle can off of a pistol or even a .22 rifle. Sure you could do it, but why? Also, .22 is very dirty and most rifle cans do not disassemble for cleaning.

Your biggest issue is that I do not believe silencers are legal for individuals to own in Missouri.

Teh Ringworm
May 20, 2011, 05:51 PM
.223 cans are significantly larger and more expensive than .22 cans. I really don't see hanging a full size centerfire rifle can off of a pistol or even a .22 rifle. Sure you could do it, but why? Also, .22 is very dirty and most rifle cans do not disassemble for cleaning.

Your biggest issue is that I do not believe silencers are legal for individuals to own in Missouri.


Yes, if you plan on using this on a pistol or do not also have a .223, then buying a .233 suppressor does not make sense. If you plan on using it on a .22LR rifle and also have a .223, it might be worth considering.

Ranb
May 20, 2011, 05:55 PM
In Missouri one must have a license (FFL or C&R) or be police or military to possess a silencer. A C&R (for collecting old guns) license is easy to obtain and issued to anyone (21 and older) who can own a gun and fills out the forms.

Look here http://www.silencertests.com/links.htm for links to silencer manufacturers. It is a good idea to buy or make a silencer that can be taken apart for cleaning as the 22lr round is very dirty. They are typically made from aluminum and cost $250 to $600 plus the $200 tax paid to the ATF.

Ranb

CoRoMo
May 20, 2011, 06:08 PM
What type of information is the OP requesting anyway? Legal info? Retail sources? Specs? Performance? What?

CZguy
May 20, 2011, 11:56 PM
What type of information is the OP requesting anyway? Legal info? Retail sources? Specs? Performance? What?

Experience primarily. I have researched the legality of ownership, and there are no problems there. I do own an AR as well as a couple of .22 LRs that I could use a big can on. But when I think about it, I will primarily use it on a .22 rimfire, so I guess the aluminum can is the way to go. What are the differences in price range? Someone mentioned a range of $250.00 to $600.00. That's quite a difference.

CoRoMo
May 21, 2011, 04:07 PM
I've found the TacSol Cascade .22lr down towards $100, which beats every last rimfire can I've ever seen. The YHM Mite used to be the least expensive, quality rimfire can around, but I can't find it anywhere near the mid to low 100s like the Cascade. The YHM is alumn/stainless steel AFAIK, the Cascade is alumn/titanium. I posted a thread asking for comments about it, but nobody has much experience with it at all. SilencerTalk of course has a few guys that own this can and they really like it. I figure, I'll get one and write a review on it. For as cheap as they are selling for, I don't see any reason not to just get one while their priced this low.

hth

CZguy
May 21, 2011, 11:23 PM
Now I have a legal question. When you pay the $200.00 tax, does that allow you to purchase multiple cans, or is it a one for one basis?

flking
May 22, 2011, 01:06 AM
It's 200 dollars per can per transfer.

If you buy a can, you pay the tax, you sell it to your neighbor he has to pay the tax, he sells it back to you, you have to pay the tax AGAIN.

Per can, per transfer.

LiquidTension
May 22, 2011, 01:03 PM
Oh that's good that all you need is a C&R, I missed that in my very brief reading of the statutes.

My next .22 can will be an Apex from Innovative Arms (http://www.innovativearms.com). It's made from a solid billet core and can be disassembled for cleaning. Realistically there's not much reason to clean that particular one. I've seen one that has about 6k rounds through it and it's still pretty clean. There aren't a lot of little crevices in it like you'd have on a baffle stack for stuff to get stuck in.

IA will be at the Silencer Shoot this year along with a whole bunch of other companies. It's the best possible place to demo just about any silencer you can imagine.

SimplyChad
May 22, 2011, 02:59 PM
CoRoMo Where are you finding it that cheap?

CoRoMo
May 23, 2011, 11:51 AM
It's a secret. Check your PMs.

viking499
May 23, 2011, 03:25 PM
If you buy a can, you pay the tax, you sell it to your neighbor he has to pay the tax, he sells it back to you, you have to pay the tax AGAIN.

I thought it cost $200 to get it out of your name and the buyer $200 to get it into his.

viking499
May 23, 2011, 03:27 PM
For long term use and life, I would get something other than aluminum and one that you can take apart. Liberty and SWR have some good choices.

CoRoMo
May 23, 2011, 03:28 PM
Nope. Buyer only.

Zak Smith
May 23, 2011, 05:12 PM
If your neighbor is a resident of another state, then it's two $200 stamps (one to get from him to an SOT in your state, and one from that SOT to you). If you're both residents of the same state, it's one $200 stamp and an SOT does not have to be involved-- just the ATF.

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