Say, CG, You're a killer, right?


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Cryogaijin
May 20, 2011, 04:22 AM
As I've mentioned before, I work in a hotel in Alaska. I am the only active shooter on the staff. So today my boss comes up to me "Say, CG, You're a killer, right? We've had this box of ammo for 6 months and need to get rid of it. Uhh. . . can you take it?" And hands me a 2/3rds full box of .38spl ammo. As I was planning on taking a .357 revolver to the range next time I go to the range, so Bonus!

OTOH, *** is up with the whole "killer" thing? *sigh*

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RX-178
May 20, 2011, 04:27 AM
You know, interesting timing, a buddy of mine gave me about a magazine's worth of Buffalo Bore .45 230gr JHP +P ammo today. Said that the Black Bears and Moose are coming out, and knew I didn't have anything hotter than a .45 in my carry rotation.

Went to the Sportsman's Warehouse next to the Sam's club and got a full box of the same ammo.

...They also had one of the Taurus Raging Judge Magnums at the counter. I was very tempted, but trying to save money this year. :D

Cryogaijin
May 20, 2011, 05:56 AM
How do they shoot? I've been considering trying those. How do they shoot?

RX-178
May 20, 2011, 07:18 AM
Haven't gotten the chance to shoot any of these yet.

But I HAVE shot Black Hills 230gr +P back in El Paso, which I can't imagine being too different.

You can tell the difference the +P makes in recoil, that's for sure. It's not unpleasant, but it turns the usual .45 'push' into more of a snap like a .40. Never did any ballistic gel tests or anything like that.

HGUNHNTR
May 20, 2011, 09:15 AM
I think y'all have missed the point the OP was trying to make.

And yes, that is an extremely disrespectful way to address someone. Next time you have a little lunch left over--"Hey boss, you're pretty fat, do you want the rest of my sandwich?"

M-Cameron
May 20, 2011, 09:20 AM
i wouldnt read too much into it......my guess is he said it tongue-in-cheek

i dont think he meant any disrespect.....and my guess is if he actually thought you were a killer.... he wouldnt have given you ammo.......

not everything always means something.......plus, you got some free ammo...whats to complain about?

RX-178
May 20, 2011, 09:26 AM
Who's 'y'all', this whole time it's just been been me and the OP :D


About that point, I never let that sort of thing get to me. Hell, I lived at an apartment where the maintenance guy's a former Ranger with a few tours of Iraq under his belt, and we'd joke about it mutually all the time.

I think he was just trying to be humorous about it.

geekWithA.45
May 20, 2011, 09:28 AM
OTOH, *** is up with the whole "killer" thing? *sigh*

That's people's stress making them weird. Happens a lot.

Hk Dan
May 20, 2011, 09:32 AM
Careful what you say. To some "Being the only active shooter on staff" has an entirely different meaning. <g>

highlander 5
May 20, 2011, 09:35 AM
I hate nicknames and snark remarks like that,there rude and disrespectful. Used to work with a guy that called me "Mr Magoo",thought he was hilarious. I put up with it for a while then it was getting old. Had a talk with my manger about it and was hit with "your a baby can't take a joke" the usual. One day I got the "Mr Magoo" name and I lost it.
Told him if he called me that once more I would report him to HR for harassment and get him fired The look on his face was the "Oh <deleted> I think I got a problem. After that he gave me a very wide berth.

Ronsch
May 20, 2011, 12:29 PM
Cryogaijin,

That is unusual for no one else on the staff to be an active shooter, even in Los Anchorage...

All kidding aside, while it might have been tongue-in-cheek, you may want to say something to the guy, in private, and off the record, if possible. It seems pretty disrespectful of the supervisor to an employee, and really disrespectful from one person to another...Unless maybe it was in a WWII film, then maybe...

Friendly, Don't Fire!
May 20, 2011, 02:53 PM
I agree he was making light of your being a shooter, but calling you killer does not make light of it but instead casts a dim, dark shadow over your sport.

Take him aside and ask what would he do if he saw a grizzly bear about to kill another human being and he happened to have a gun in his hands and he happened to know how to use it.

If the guy says "well, I would shoot the bear!"

Say to him, "in other words you would KILL the bear -- that makes you a killer, then, correct?" Tell him just so he knows that you know where you both stand with this "killer-business" and that it is positively Nothing to joke about or take lightly!

Mike J
May 20, 2011, 03:21 PM
I wouldn't consider him calling you a "killer" worthy of response. I'd just remember that he has that type of attitude. It never hurts to know where you stand with folks.

Unistat
May 20, 2011, 03:32 PM
Well you're the one that referred to yourself as an "Active Shooter", killer.

lol, just kidding.

Shadow 7D
May 20, 2011, 03:43 PM
Hey Cryo, are you at the one off of Benson, side that, really, killer, I would have just smiled and said--
"bet your happy I'm on your side..."

Grey_Mana
May 20, 2011, 08:09 PM
If he meant 'killer' in the sense of 'hunter', then I wouldn't consider it an insult.

gearhead
May 20, 2011, 08:19 PM
Maybe he's a Jerry Lee Lewis wannabe...

Seriously, some people have no issue with taking kidding to an inappropriate level.

simonm2211
May 20, 2011, 08:33 PM
Some hyper-sensitive reactions to an offhand remark from a guy that GAVE the OP free ammo.
Extremely disrespectful? Dim, dark shadow? Nah.
Hack and unfunny? Yeah.

Rustinthewheel
May 20, 2011, 08:55 PM
Realistically there shouldn't be an issue at all, the manager was supporting our sport by giving him ammo.

I'd take a few jokes at my expense for some ammo any day of the week. It seems we sometimes get out of hand with the sensitivity and need for positive reinforcement. If they didn't like or have an appreciation for OP's shooting, they would have disposed of the ammo in another fashion. Consider it a blessing and move on, no harm was meant.

NoirFan
May 20, 2011, 09:52 PM
I'm just curious why a hotel has 2/3 of a box of ammo just sitting around on a shelf. Is there a story there?

Shadow 7D
May 20, 2011, 09:59 PM
it's alaska...
could have been left behind in a room, though you would be fool to take it into the woods for anything big.

mhphoto
May 21, 2011, 01:33 AM
I wouldn't have expected such ignorance from someone living in Alaska.

daorhgih
May 21, 2011, 01:47 AM
I'm interested in loading for a 3"x3" Judge, in .45 Colt, but using .444 Marlin brass, at 3" OAL. What would you suggest, #2, as a starting load, pushing 250gr of copper ball and discs, with a disc at final crimp? I'd call it a bear-stopper, but have yet to evaluate any other opinion. Can anyone help out here? Thanks. DAO.

ArfinGreebly
May 21, 2011, 02:36 AM
I followed a truck for a while on the highway headed home a couple of days ago.

Big ol' truck, crew cab, lift kit, mud, camo.

Sticker in the window on back of the cab: I KILL ELK.

Somehow, I couldn't bring myself to doubt that.

I wonder if he has to put up with people calling him killer. And I wonder if they do so out of admiration. This bein' the Inland Northwest and all.

Cryogaijin
May 21, 2011, 04:19 AM
Some hyper-sensitive reactions to an offhand remark from a guy that GAVE the OP free ammo. Girl, actually. Only 2 men work in my hotel (And a bunch of boys. . .)

If he meant 'killer' in the sense of 'hunter', then I wouldn't consider it an insult. More like she was searching for a good term. As pointed out already in this thread, there is no real good way to say "shooter" without some sort of negative connotation. I do FAR more target shooting than I do hunting, and I frequently claim to be a paper-murderer. (paper is my enemy!)

Realistically there shouldn't be an issue at all, the manager was supporting our sport by giving him ammo.

I'd take a few jokes at my expense for some ammo any day of the week. Me too, and this was from someone that is only a half step up from my position anyhow. I consider her more coworker than boss, tbh. I teased HER about it, honestly.

I'm just curious why a hotel has 2/3 of a box of ammo just sitting around on a shelf. Is there a story there? Its Alaska. They were left behind in a room.

hough you would be fool to take it into the woods for anything big. .38spl works great on two-legged deer.

I wouldn't have expected such ignorance from someone living in Alaska. Alaska isn't some mystical place where everyone is all enlightened about firearms. I've had three different conversations in the last two weeks about how various of my coworkers think guns should be illegal, and everyone should have Tranq guns. When I point out that any quantity of anesthesia sufficient to stop someone instantly is more likely to be fatal than a handgun shot, they think I'm crazy.

Yet I'm the one with the Emergency Trauma Tech cert, and they don't even have CPR. . .

Meh.

Ohio Gun Guy
May 21, 2011, 06:56 AM
just smile as stair..........keep it up for long enough to be uncomfortable. ;)

I would throw in a joke about "killing" some paper targets, then maybe add a little about shooting / the subject at hand / the bullets you were given.....

guntech59
May 21, 2011, 09:22 AM
I hate nicknames and snark remarks like that,there rude and disrespectful. Used to work with a guy that called me "Mr Magoo",thought he was hilarious. I put up with it for a while then it was getting old. Had a talk with my manger about it and was hit with "your a baby can't take a joke" the usual. One day I got the "Mr Magoo" name and I lost it.
Told him if he called me that once more I would report him to HR for harassment and get him fired The look on his face was the "Oh S$%t I think I got a problem. After that he gave me a very wide berth.
You went to your manager?

Just tell him to cut the crap or you'll fatten his lip. Man up!

SharpsDressedMan
May 21, 2011, 12:39 PM
Yes, we are killers, dinosaurs, and a few other colorful names given us by the non-gun crowd. Take it tongue-in-cheek, and be proud. We are the ones they call on when the situation gets ugly, as they have neither the inclination or the means to do anything about it. Anyone had one of these softer people come running to you for protection or just a higher feeling of security, knowing you are the one armed?

Friendly, Don't Fire!
May 21, 2011, 02:00 PM
When I was six, a relative (as old as my grandfather) would tell me "I could click you in the head so hard, it would kill you!"

I wanted to ask him to try it, as, even at 6, I knew he was full of shi*.

When he died within a month or so I was happy I would never see his face again.:neener: Haven't missed him since, either!

BADSBSNF81
May 21, 2011, 07:14 PM
IMHO, you need to have a conversation with your boss. If that doesn't happen and the hotel is owned by a company, check the HR policies. Document everything. In the company I work for, the intent of the speaker means nothing. The perception of the employee to the speaker's words is what counts.

Dynamite Doc
June 8, 2011, 10:33 PM
This is my first post here on THR and I feel obligated to share my feelings on this subject.
While most of my friends are gun enthusiasts, not a single one of them will ever actually purchase or own one. Because of this, among my friends, colleagues, co-workers and even family, I am considered the weirdo with the gun collection. By the by, this "collection" consists of two pistols and a beat-up old shotgun left to me when my grandpa died.
I realize the bulk of the statements that they make about me have absolutely nothing to do with my actual character or personality, it's just something else to joke about, however over time it can hurt. Especially if the ones making the jokes are close, or even just people you see daily.
If you and your co-worker are on friendly terms, I'd say it would be best to try and nip it in the bud. It is, at the very least inappropriate and implies a hostile work environment, which is the last place an active shooter wants to be.

22-rimfire
June 8, 2011, 11:02 PM
I'm not a killer; I'm a sportsman, conservationist, hunter, and fisherman.

I did find a mostly full box of 300 win mags that I plan on "forgetting" at the range some day I remember to take them along.

CajunBass
June 9, 2011, 10:27 AM
Where I work I'm known as the resident "gun nut." Doesn't bother me any.

Panzercat
June 9, 2011, 11:00 AM
Arch your eyebrow with a skeptical look back at the person in question, then respon in a sufficiently doubtful tone, "Killer? Really?"

They'll get the idea how dumb they sound.

youngda9
June 9, 2011, 11:10 AM
This is my first post here on THR and I feel obligated to share my feelings on this subject.
While most of my friends are gun enthusiasts, not a single one of them will ever actually purchase or own one. Because of this, among my friends, colleagues, co-workers and even family, I am considered the weirdo with the gun collection. By the by, this "collection" consists of two pistols and a beat-up old shotgun left to me when my grandpa died.
I realize the bulk of the statements that they make about me have absolutely nothing to do with my actual character or personality, it's just something else to joke about, however over time it can hurt. Especially if the ones making the jokes are close, or even just people you see daily.
If you and your co-worker are on friendly terms, I'd say it would be best to try and nip it in the bud. It is, at the very least inappropriate and implies a hostile work environment, which is the last place an active shooter wants to be.
I don't see how they can be "gun enthusiasts" yet "not a single one of them will ever actually purchase or own one"

People are afraid of things they don't know and understand. Sounds like your "friends" need some education. Take them shooting.

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