Silly question: would you trade a gun for exercise equipment?


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docnyt
May 22, 2011, 03:34 AM
A little levity here but serious question. Been mulling over trading a kit built AMD65 for a BowFlex Xtreme locally. The AK has been sitting in my safe, shot maybe a grand total of 2 times, 100 rounds of Wolf at the most. I don't believe in safe queens. I do have some in my collection that I would never trade or sell, such as an M1 Garand, FN49, and so forth, and I do have other AK variants like a Saiga Legion, Bulgarian Arsenal and even GSG in .22 that will suffice to fill the AK void.

The BowFlex Xtreme seems to be in good condition and according to the seller, used very little.

I know people trade guns for other guns all the time, and even guns for gold or silver (and maybe even comic books if I recall). This seems to be an even trade in terms of value.

I'm not in bad physical condition but I can do better. My schedule and family obligations don't allow me to go out or go to the gym much. I can definitely stand to be in better physical shape and this would be an investment in the right direction. I've recently taken up biking and am trying to make home exercising more regular.

So would you trade a gun for gym equipment?

:)

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elano
May 22, 2011, 03:57 AM
Yes, BUT NOT FOR A BOWLEX!!! I've seen dozens of blowflexes over the years and they are almost always sitting on the back porch or folded up in the spare bedroom collecting dust. This is solely because they are a gimmik, joke, and not really worth trading a gun for.

I sugguest you just sell the AK and invest in a 300lb olympic weight set, and learn to do real exercises. I've been lifing seriously for years and I have yet to meet a single person who has built even a decent physique using a bowflex. Get an olympic weight set, a bench, and a good book that has you focus on the squat as it's staple lift and you sould do fine. Just my opinion.

docnyt
May 22, 2011, 04:30 AM
Yeah I know what you mean, but it's true of a lot of exercise equipment. Heck we have an elliptical machine sitting in an upstairs storage area, used maybe the first month we bought it.

The problem with me using free weights is I don't have a spotter. My 3 year old is not quite big enough for me to be doing 150 lb bench presses. I can do dumbbell flys and other free weights and even squats but I'm not comfortable not having a spotter.

Appreciate the input though. From the reviews I've read on the Bowflex, owners seem to love it. I realize it's not a perfect or complete system but nothing is. I'm not trying to glamorize the Bowflex - I know its limitations - but it seems to be a decent system.

elano
May 22, 2011, 04:41 AM
Oh, well if you think you will use it then go for it. Physical fitness > guns (.. as long as you have at least one) ;)

Good&Fruity
May 22, 2011, 04:48 AM
No, I would never trade a gun for excercise equipment. Checkout the site in my sig, I have tons of tips in there on how to get in shape and lose weight withough equipment. I just posted another article about this a couple days ago. Also make sure you're drinking lots of water.

Cryogaijin
May 22, 2011, 06:37 AM
Exercise equipment takes up too much room for me, so "not at present"

OTOH, I get a bigger place and yeah, I'd go for a machine. I also have issues with free weights for a couple reasons I won't go into, but know this: the average bowflex does not have enough resistance to do anything for already muscular individuals. Expect to pay up to $400 for more resistance limbs.

towboat_er
May 22, 2011, 07:08 AM
I have a feeling, you will regret it in a couple of years.

fallout mike
May 22, 2011, 08:26 AM
You seem to have plenty of other guns so if it is something you want to do then I would. The extreme is roughly a $2000 piece of equipment. You would have to have an entire gym full of free weight equipment to equal the exercises you can do with it. If you take it serious the machine weights will give you the best look because it is perfect form each repetition. Now of you want to become a bodybuilder then no, this is not what you want. I never knew that all bowflexes just sit and collect dust bc they are no good. I thought all exercise equipment sat and collected dust bc the owners have a lack of commitment and self motivation. I guess when you "work out seriously for years" that means you know it all that you have your pic in several bodybuilding magazine and pick up new sponsors at every show you compete in.

The Lone Haranguer
May 22, 2011, 08:30 AM
Not really that silly, if it is something that improves your health ... and you didn't really like the gun(s) anyway. :D

RugerBob
May 22, 2011, 08:36 AM
Later down the road you would probably have a hard time getting rid of the bowflex. My buddy got one for 200 dollars as the could get no one to give him what he paid and he wanted it gone.....good luck tho.

bannockburn
May 22, 2011, 08:42 AM
I would trade a gun for another gun, but not for exercise equipment; in particular a Bowflex. Every fitness instructor I've ever talked to have told me the same thing; that resistance machines like the Bowflex cannot duplicate the bodybuilding effect actual weights provide (i.e. free weights, Nautillus equipment, etc.). As for working out indoors, I have found free weights, exercise bikes, and treadmills to be useful for staying in shape.

Ohio Gun Guy
May 22, 2011, 08:43 AM
NO!

docnyt
May 22, 2011, 08:45 AM
I have a feeling, you will regret it in a couple of years.

More like a couple of months maybe...

docnyt
May 22, 2011, 08:49 AM
I'm not going for the Governator look, just something to keep me occupied and keep the flab away until I can build a more "serious" gym.

Besides, I look at it this way, since I am not using the AMD much, at least some other gun enthusiast can put it to good use.

Thanks for all the replies.

docnyt
May 22, 2011, 08:51 AM
NO!

Tell me how you really feel!

docnyt
May 22, 2011, 08:53 AM
@ falloutmike and bannockburn: Yeah I know. My experience has mostly been with free weights. When I used machines in the past, I felt like I was cheating in a way. It was still a good workout though.

ATBackPackin
May 22, 2011, 09:45 AM
I personally would not trade it for a Bowflex. If you do not have the money for any equipment without selling the gun, then I'd say sell it and buy something else. Just speaking from personal experience, a man can get in really good shape with just a couple sets of dumbbells and a cheap bench. The key to burning fat and building LEAN muscle is low weight and more reps. Also using dumbbells, as opposed to a barbell, builds all of your smaller stabilizing muscles.

That can be had for much less than the value of your gun and even cheaper if you get them used from someone else whom had the same idea, but not the willpower.

Just a thought. Good luck.
Shawn

Sav .250
May 22, 2011, 09:58 AM
Different strokes for different folks..........

jon86
May 22, 2011, 10:21 AM
Physical fitness > guns (.. as long as you have at least one)

THIS x 100

tazbigdog
May 22, 2011, 10:23 AM
Personally, I would not trade for it. In the end, it's a tool, whether it's a gun or an exercise set.

I would sell the gun, join a gym and work out.

docnyt
May 22, 2011, 11:02 AM
Too late now. I said goodbye to my AMD65 and said hello to a Bowflex.

It wasn't as hard as I thought to trade a gun away. I've only traded one so far and only regretted it for a week or so.

Now if I can only squeeze time to exercise and go to the range, life will be perfect. Work gets in the way of life as you know.

Thanks to all who replied. Work out those other muscles besides the trigger finger ones. :)

bozzman3
May 22, 2011, 11:08 AM
Well at least with the exercise equipment you can hang your laundry on it not so much with a Ak :neener:

docnyt
May 22, 2011, 11:11 AM
Well at least with the exercise equipment you can hang your laundry on it not so much with a Ak :neener:

Hmm I don't know. The Mosin makes a good underwear dryer. And if you stack the other milsurps together, they make a decent pants rack.

Ala Dan
May 22, 2011, 11:30 AM
Absolutely NOT :eek: :banghead:

dirtykid
May 22, 2011, 11:41 AM
Too late , but my vote was NO,,trade it for another gun,, hopefully clothes rack,, errr i mean exercise machine works for you, I've found that hiking thru intense up-hill terrain will build my legs,then i use 20# dumbells to do high-rep arm/chest exercises,, Ive lost 18 pounds since March , feel great everyday,and sleep well at night,, Do whatever works for you, but i vowed NEVER to out-right sell a gun again, only trade or upgrade

gym
May 22, 2011, 12:55 PM
No, I owned a Gym, get a membership for 6 months, by then you will know if it's something you are going to make part of your lifestyle or not, 90% of the people who join Gyms, never show up after 6 months, same with exercise machines. You won't have your gun and be stuck with a fancy cloths hanger., 6 is months now less than $100.00, LA FItness is doing $10.00 a month with nothing down, don't trade your gun, Bowflex is really a boring way to work out, at least in a club you interact with other people and get motivated, Working out at home takes much more disipline, I have done both. It's good for "filling in", but not as your only workout schedule. The most important thing is diet, and Cardio, you need the free weights to really give you a balanced shape, the elastic bands will not contract the muscle in different spots or angles like a dumbell or barbell will, you will tire of it quicklly.

goon
May 22, 2011, 02:30 PM
Yep, I'd trade it.
I sold a gun to buy a chainsaw once. My dad needed one and couldn't afford it, so I bought one and "keep" it at his house.
If you need something else more than you need the gun and you have your bases covered, why not?
It's not like it's being melted down - another shooter will be enjoying it. If anything, you're actually expanding gun ownership by trading that gun!

22-rimfire
May 22, 2011, 07:44 PM
Unless you have a lot of extra room which I don't, I have trouble finding a permanent place for an exercise machine of any sort. I hope you enjoy your Bowflex. I doubt however that you will miss the firearm.

SleazyRider
May 22, 2011, 09:41 PM
Look to the curb for a treasure trove of exercise equipment on almost any given garbage night. Yard sales always have a wide assortment of it as well, from treadmills to weight benches. Ditto for the want ads. There's a reason America is getting fat.

The same cannot be said for firearms.

Keep your firearms; buy or scrounge your exercise equipment.

leadcounsel
May 22, 2011, 10:22 PM
If you look at the gun as an asset, then sure. But I have never met ANYONE that gets fit using a bowflex.

But keep in mind that guns are a hard-to-come by commodity and exercise gear is practically given away on for-sale sites.

Some simple olympic weights, a jumprope, some crossfit equipment, a doorway pullup bar and some discipline will make you very fit. You can coble that together for a few hundred bucks.

If I were in your shoes, I would sell the AK for cash, and spend the cash on used equipment on Craigslist or similar sites. You'll be able to build up a great home gym in no time.

Alternately, I have tried the home gym method and it fails. Some can do it, I don't. I would just get a gym membership.

Patriotme
May 23, 2011, 05:50 AM
Too late now. I said goodbye to my AMD65 and said hello to a Bowflex.

It wasn't as hard as I thought to trade a gun away. I've only traded one so far and only regretted it for a week or so.

Now if I can only squeeze time to exercise and go to the range, life will be perfect. Work gets in the way of life as you know.

Thanks to all who replied. Work out those other muscles besides the trigger finger ones. :)
It's a gun not some heirloom or holy relic. If you're not using it or don't care about it then get rid of it if you want something else. If your tastes change in the future then get another AK.
I've had a Weider Crossbow for years and use it regularly. I'll agree that it's not like using free weights but you can tone up and gain strength using these machines. You can also do a range of exercises without a spotter. One warning though, don't leave the tension rods hooked up when it's not in use. I believe that they can lose some stiffness and weaken.

brassdog
May 23, 2011, 06:22 AM
No...

docnyt
May 23, 2011, 07:56 AM
Well the original problem was I don't have many opportunities to go to the gym, what with work and shuttling kids to and from school and extracurricular activities. Hopefully the laziness won't set in as is common with home gym stuff. Besides I never was a public gym type-preferred to work out with close friends. But my working nights is really cumbersome to exercising since I'm asleep during the day.

I got plenty of other toys so I can tolerate the loss of 1 rifle. In fact, I'm going to a track event with my M3 (the BMW type not the Benelli which I also have) soon. Too many hobbies too little time. Sigh.

Erik M
May 23, 2011, 08:08 AM
I look at the majority of my guns as a hedge investment. Ive traded more than one to cash, electronics, and Iver received guns as part of trades on vehicles and outer items. Just the ones like an unfired Ruger Vaquero and my 78' S&W Model 29 i dont think I could ever part with. Its a sentimental thing I assume.

BluesDancer
May 23, 2011, 10:56 AM
In my house, all the exercise machines collect dust. It is all about motivation. If you know you are going to use the bowflex regularly, and you stick with it, go for it.

Otherwise a steady diet of jogging, push-ups, and sit-ups (every other day if possible) will do you good as well.

Pilot
May 23, 2011, 11:36 AM
Only if you are going to actually use the exercise equipment. Buying or trading for it may make you "feel" better emotionally, but it won't help your physical condition. From all the fat *sses I see at the range, many more should trade guns for exercise equipment or at least a healthier lifestyle.

ForumSurfer
May 23, 2011, 11:53 AM
In my experience, the only thing I actually use at home are dumbbells. Other than that, the equipment will just gather dust. I'm not motivated unless I'm in an old fashioned, sawdust on the floor, weights clanging everywhere, old fashioned gym. Seen those planet fitness commercials? That's not my gym...I can't help but grunt when I'm lifting weights that are pushing my limts. Speaking of which...I view going to the gym exactly as I do firearm practice. You need to practice to point of failure which increases your limits, wash, rinse and repeat. If you don't fail, you aren't pushing yourself enough. Don't want to lift heavy? Well do cardio type weight lifting (low weight, high rep) to point of failure.

That being said...exercise will definitely prolong your life...the same can't be said for the AK that you hardly ever shoot if it isn't your go-to home defense weapon. :)

If you are the type who will use equipment at home (I KNOW that I'm not), I say go for it.

ghoster
May 23, 2011, 12:15 PM
A gun IS exersize equipment! Take it to some hilly terrain and start huffing up and down through the bush looking for some game. Carry lots of extra ammo for added cardio workouts and you will be fit in no time.:evil:

mgmorden
May 23, 2011, 12:16 PM
Only if you are going to actually use the exercise equipment.

This. Fitness is a mindset, not a product. This is a problem that you can't solve by throwing funds at it.

That's not to say that you don't need to put some money into it to setup, but some people get it into their heads that BUYING an exercise machine (rather than using it) is going to make them fit.

Personally, though I did it when I was younger, I no longer have much use for straight up weight lifting. Want to get in shape without spending a dime? Go out on a 5 mile jog every evening. About the most you'll have to buy are a pair of shoes which you probably already have.

Alternatively, cycling is an excellent and fun way to get/stay in shape. Warning though: once you get into bikes they get just as hard on the wallet as guns. :)

docnyt
May 23, 2011, 01:30 PM
Already doing pushups, sit-ups and pullups. Just wanted to have something with resistance not requiring a spotter.

Oh and did I mention I started biking? That's another wallet cruncher. Bought a Trek Gary Fjsher Montare without knowing what it was at the bike shop. Turns out it is one of the top end models.

Getting back on topic. Seriously though you can probably get a good workup lugging around gear and ammo to the range, especially if you bring 2 or 3 rifles and 4 to 5 handguns and the associated paraphernalia.

.

CoRoMo
May 23, 2011, 01:36 PM
Nope.

I got a gym-quality treadmill a couple years ago, off craigslist, for $50. This thing is all of 400+ lbs and still operating wonderfully. I was on it just this morning, and there is just something about starting the day with cardio exercise. Makes the whole day go so much better; mentally, emotionally, physically, etc.

I can't much stand lifting weights though.

The only gun I own that I could let go for $50 is my Hi Point, but for that price, I might as well keep it.

ForumSurfer
May 23, 2011, 01:39 PM
Getting back on topic. Seriously though you can probably get a good workup lugging around gear and ammo to the range, especially if you bring 2 or 3 rifles and 4 to 5 handguns and the associated paraphernalia.

Factor in 2 kids, reactive targets, various calibers and platforms...and you have quite a bit to be lugging around in the hot, humid south. Luckily, kids can be used as pack mules. :neener:

That doesn't keep me in shape, though. Honestly it does nothing for me. Staying in shape allows me to do it without wearing myself out and I'm not so spent afterwards, other than my wallet.

elano
May 23, 2011, 08:01 PM
It's been my experience that you have to MAKE TIME to work out. Think about it if you can't make time to go to the gym are you really going to make time to bowflex? I'm talking getting up 2 hours early to lift before work. Gotta do what you gotta do. Anyways good luck with your bowflex. I hope you reach your fitness goals!

kozak6
May 23, 2011, 08:12 PM
Even though it's too late now...

I would have sold whatever was most replaceable, and bought a bench and a real weight set instead of some gimmicky Bowflex.

With dumbbells, you can pretty much do all the exercises you'd do with a barbell, and you don't need a spotter since they are more easily managed. Furthermore, they are more versatile and allow a wider range of exercises.

Selling it and using the cash for a gym membership would also have been a very good option.

The hardest part is making time for exercise. If you can get into a routine of regular exercise, it really makes it a lot easier.

ForumSurfer
May 24, 2011, 12:56 AM
The hardest part is making time for exercise. If you can get into a routine of regular exercise, it really makes it a lot easier.

I'll second that to the nth degree. Sometimes life gets in the way and I have to sacrifice range time for gym time. I feel fairly confident in my shooting ability, but I like as much practice as I can afford. I will gladly sacrifice range time for gym time when given the chance as my health is far more important in my mind. Like someone else said, the difference that you feel in every day life is astounding.

I'm not saying that I sacrifice ALL of my range time, though. Do you think I'm nuts?!

hso
May 24, 2011, 01:37 AM
Sounds like a trade up.

Legionnaire
May 24, 2011, 12:15 PM
Too late, but I'd have said, "Go ahead and trade/sell any gun that you don't use, especially one that is not rare or an heirloom. You can replace it later if you like. I'd opt for free weights over a bowflex, but that's just me. I understand the spotter, concern, but you can do a lot of exercises with weights that don't require a spotter."

BigN
May 24, 2011, 12:22 PM
No. Those 15# heavy-barrelled varmint rifles I tote around the mountains are exercise enough :D

leadcounsel
May 24, 2011, 01:51 PM
Well - I think it was likely a mistake. Doubt you could recoup your 'investment' in the bowflex or find someone else to buy it for what an AK costs.

I just looked at Craigslist and other local sites and they are littered with treadmills, bowflexes, and home gyms. Not many guns though...

I do hope it works out for you. Please come back and tell us in 6 months honestly how much you use it. (Then again, many of us here have guns we rarely use.... so maybe that's the real analysis).

Jonah71
May 24, 2011, 03:43 PM
Me personally? No way! My gun wouldn't end up in the basement collecting dust. The exercise equipment would.

ForumSurfer
May 24, 2011, 03:55 PM
Me personally? No way! My gun wouldn't end up in the basement collecting dust. The exercise equipment would.

Sounds like the OP has his answer. I'm the opposite, some of my guns never get shot and I use exercise equipment daily. I have a dumbell set in my office at work that has seen more use this week than my SKS has seen in more than a decade...granted, yet other firearms get used weekly.

The bowflex xtreme sells for more than the AK on local ads. He isn't losing money.

Decide which one you would use more often and go with that item.

SleazyRider
June 7, 2011, 07:38 AM
Sign I saw posted over the desk of an overweight person: "I may be fat, but I'm not ugly, and I can always diet."

rocky branch
June 7, 2011, 03:27 PM
Few years ago I bought a M1A at a good price from a young guy who said he needed to buy his wife a set of golf clubs.

I wondered what the poor guy had done to prompt this.

R.Ganister
June 7, 2011, 05:28 PM
I have a slight idea about the subject of exercise and am familiar with things such as the bow flex.

The Bowflex should theoretically work provided you follow a progressive resistance exercise program that involves all the major muscle groups on a regular basis, say every other day.

The body responds to adapt according to the demands of producing force/expending it's energy and the duration of time it's required to expend the energy/produce the force.

You can think of your normal everyday fitness state as a balance between the most commonly experienced greatest demands that are ordinarily put upon you as you go about your life, and your body's inclination for energy and tissue sparing.

To become fitter means you have to demand more of your body's resources than you can comfortably maintain on a continual basis in accordance to your current level of fitness at the time, to promote your body to develop a tolerance and or adaptation to the extra demands placed upon it.

It shouldn't be any matter of debate that proper rest, sleep and *relatively adequate nutrition* is essential to ensure the stresses placed on the body do not result in it wearing down instead of developing resiliency to the exercise.

*the human body is highly adaptable to dietary extremes, and although maintaining an optimum diet is beneficial in theory, humans can get by on more or less anything they can find resembling water, proteins, carbohydrates and fats, that's not toxic or inedible.*

ForumSurfer
June 7, 2011, 05:45 PM
To become fitter means you have to demand more of your body's resources than you can comfortably maintain on a continual basis in accordance to your current level of fitness at the time, to promote your body to develop a tolerance and or adaptation to the extra demands placed upon it.

Yep. In short, you need to train until you fail...not until you get it right. You need to push yourself for one more rep, set, mile, lap or whatever. Shooting a handgun or rifle is no different at all. You need to push for more distance or more speed, whatever it takes to fail (fail being shooting larger groups than are acceptable). Wash, rinse and repeat ad nauseum. :)

achttung
June 8, 2011, 02:44 AM
The only exercise I do is the 12oz curl.

Workin on a 6-pack... a night... heh.

b.thomas
June 8, 2011, 03:07 AM
I wouldn't!:D


:confused:Why, you need something to hang your clothes on??:D

teumessian_fox
June 8, 2011, 07:21 PM
I would trade a Jennings 25 caliber for a completely stocked and paid for Gold's Gym located in Beverly Hills, CA, in its own building, also paid for.

Is that asking too much?

T.R.
June 9, 2011, 07:28 PM
I traded a motorcycle for a leather recliner. It "runs" great.

TR

Smokey in PHX
June 9, 2011, 10:39 PM
I have sold guns to pay for tucks, cars and any number of things. The only thing I regret is selling my Colt SAA's for a new truck. Was years ago, the truck isn't worth much now but those Colts are worth a lot more.

kayak-man
June 10, 2011, 05:23 PM
The right gun for the right gym-equipment, sure.

Honestly, I agree with those that say that a bowflex isn't the best way to go. because of the way it works, you get different resistance at different points in the range of motion. If you've started biking, thats going to do a lot for you, and some freeweights or a decent weight machine will get you better results. That is of course, my humble opinion.

To keep this on topic: The guns I would trade for exercise equipment would be my single shot 12guage or my Hi-Point 45, and really, I would only trade them for some more freeweights, or maybe an obscenely large amount of bodyglide (Learn from my mistakes, and don't take Steven Prefontaine's spiel about "running until you bleed" literally.)


Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson

swiftak
June 10, 2011, 05:29 PM
My brother traded his bowflex for a 1941 model 94, 32 win spcl. The gun looks brand new and if its been fired it was very very little. I've got some weights that I will trade for any gun. Anyone interested?

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