SCOTUS says release felons due to overcrowding


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Vector
May 23, 2011, 03:43 PM
Now the headline might make you wonder what this subject has to do with guns, but I suspect many of you know exactly what it has to do with guns. We as American citizens have the Constitutionally protected right(as long as the current SC justices say we do)to own firearms. Yet we are continually having to defend that right among our fellow citizens in public debates in the media, town halls, etc.
Many want us to live in a nanny state and have our security depend on local LEO's. Others say we should not hunt for our food, instead depend on the local supermarket to feed our families. Still others say we should not enjoy the sport of shooting and competing with firearms, and instead would prefer we take up soccer instead. In many instances you cannot reason with them because they do not deal in facts nor logic, rather they have emotion based arguments which in many cases is not well thought out. They like to live in a dream world where most all violent felons are caught and securely locked away. They do not realize that many murders in this country go unsolved, nor do they even realize that escape from jails and prisons is more common than the average person thinks.
However, when things like massive prison population releases are mandated by the courts or state government, even some of the anti-gunners start to think about people needing to own a gun to defend themselves.

Frankly I think we as responsible gun owners should make the case for our position every time things like this happen in our society. It is not only a war to protect our Constitutional rights, but also for the hearts and minds of our fellow citizens who might cast misguided votes for politicians.

Here is the link to the article I just read where a 5-4 vote will mandate a prison population reduction.

http://my.earthlink.net/article/pol?guid=20110523/2c5d086e-f3a6-435d-9594-6d4ed40c073b

Also, don't think for a minute that we are that far away from the SCOTUS voting that we do not have the right to bear arms. All it will take is another 4 years of a liberal in office to where he appoints another justice or two on the high court for it to happen.
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CCI
May 23, 2011, 03:50 PM
Prison population reduction, not good news.

Ruger44mag
May 23, 2011, 03:54 PM
That’s messed up! In my opinion they need to execute the criminals when (caught and tried) who have committed murders. The overcrowding problems would be solved over night. Many of those felons released will be murders most likely.

mgmorden
May 23, 2011, 04:09 PM
Many of those felons released will be murders most likely.

More likely it's for drug charges. The USA is notorious for locking up people for a huge number of things that are simply not crimes in many parts of the world.

As a reference, the United States, by percentage of it's total population, incarcerates more of it's population than any other nation on Earth (and we're ahead by a pretty wide margin):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

Sure, for MURDER we might need to execute them, and for the blatant stuff like theft and rape those people have commited serious crimes. However, the number of laws in this country that can earn you jail time is staggering.

A big part of that is that many of the countries prisons are outsourced to private firms. The government still pays for them, but the actual prison is ran by another entity. Since the government is footing the bill PER inmate, it becomes financially beneficial for the entities that run them to lobby in such a way that those prisons are kept full.

kk0g
May 23, 2011, 04:18 PM
This is simply an unintended consequence of the government wasting billions of our tax dollars on the "war on drugs" for the past 30 years.

ny32182
May 23, 2011, 04:19 PM
This is simply an unintended consequence of the government wasting billions of our tax dollars on the "war on drugs" for the past 30 years.

This.

rbernie
May 23, 2011, 04:22 PM
Discussions about the politics of incarceration are off topic for THR.

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