I was asked about painting a rifle stocks this past weekend. Does anyone here have any info or know of sites that cover this.
Types of paint? Camo colors? Drying times?
Type of rifle is a FN/FAL.
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December 27, 2002, 12:37 AM
A Savage 111 I painted myself. Sanded the mould marks off & scuffed it good then took it to a body shop and had them shoot it with self-etching primer. (cost me a 12-pack).
Sprayed it with Rust Oleum light grey then topped off with "Fleckstone" and a matte sealer.
Has held up through one deer season and a damp turkey / feral hog hunt in West Texas.
December 27, 2002, 08:07 AM
I've had real good luck using Testors Military Flats with 3-4 over coats of clear flat lacquer. You can remove the paint completely with a little elbow grease and some Hoppes if you dont like it, but it does take some work. Your best bet is to spray the base coat in the lightest color, then use a brush for the rest. You dont get good definition with a spray can, although I've never tried to airbrush, so I cant say for that, but the brush always works best for me. Take a set of your cammies to the hobby shop with you to match the colors and use a new set, or the newest set you have. You'll want to use them for your pattern anyway. Once the base is on, start with the next darkest color and work up to the darkest. Just take your time and let each color dry before you do the next. Best to go with two light coats rather than one heavy one. Dont go crazy with each color, you can always add more or fill in later if it looks to sparse. Once your done give it a 3 or more coats of clear flat lacquer. This adds to the "flat" and evens the over all finish. It also helps with saving the paint under it, especially from solvents when you clean. Just dont let the solvents sit on the paint when you clean or it will take the paint off. It will eventually wear in places, but not so bad as not to do its job. I have a Mossberg shotgun thats been painted 15 years and still has most of the paint on it and its still doing its job, so it is pretty durable.
Heres a couple of pics, the Mossberg is the one in the bad pic, its in ASAT, the other is an AR in German Flecktarn.
Let's see if the evil one have gone away yet. Apparenlty not. AK103K, I was trying to post a photo, the following the format here. Methinks the bugs are about in my system.
December 27, 2002, 12:34 PM
December 27, 2002, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by MolonLabe416
Thats what Im after on http://www.whamocamo.com/
I have that type of bdu pattern that I was going to match... wish I had that m1a
Im going to try a vew things with a sprayed base coat and then hand work with one shot. And then a few coats of flat lacquer
December 27, 2002, 01:52 PM
AK103K, excellent camo job!
December 27, 2002, 02:10 PM
Fella's...nice job on the Rifle painting!
I bought a beat up Chinese SKS about 12 years ago...last one in the barrel but for 80 bucks I figured I couldn't lose. I took it apart, sanded the stock and it still looked horrible so I went to the local hardware store, bought some matte black spray paint, hung it on a coat hanger in the garage and turned it into an "evil" black assault rifle! Looked much better black and the paint has lasted (more or less) all these years...good luck,
December 27, 2002, 02:48 PM
Thanks. This is starting to become an addiction with me. As long as Northridge has those cheap stock sets I'll never get the metal painted to match any one camo. I guess I'll just leave it parked. :)
December 29, 2002, 06:27 AM
I had a 10/22 I was putting together and wasn't real happy with the boring black dragonov stock. Then I read this post. Had to run right down to Wally world. Some Hunter green primer, some green flecktone, and some clear coat. Not finished yet, must learn patience, but it looks like it's going to turn out pretty good.
December 29, 2002, 12:20 PM
Like Jeff Foxworthy says, "Say it with Krylon." ;)
December 29, 2002, 12:21 PM
Here is how i do my rifles as well as a pic link to mine and two other sites on doing a cammo job, between the three you should be set on doing yours . i have a Fal in cammo in my pic link .
If you rifle is bedded I would tell you to leave it in the stock to do the paint job .
First off clean your rifle, use alcohol remove any oil /grease.
I use egg crate foam in the auctions I just stuff it in there good, on scopes or any other part that you don't want painted mask them off with masking tape.
Use a primer coat your paint will stick better and last longer either Red or Gray primer.
I choose not to use a flat black paint I have done rifles before and to me it creates a dark spot or spots. On paints I use Krylon Cammo System spray cans you can pick it up at any Walmart store I use Khaki , Olive drab , and brown these paints are tough you get a good non glare finish , if I want to further seal the paint I use Testors Dull coat its at Walmart also . I use either a stencil that has leaves and flowers that you can get at Walmarts toy department for kids or I use natural leafs and twigs , the best result so far is clipping from a evergreen tree that's what I used on the 1022 & LTR rifles.
Once the rifle is ready after the primer coat I paint the whole rifle Khaki .
Then I get the evergreen clipping and I use the Olive drab I paint the whole rifle using the clippings as I see fit , then I use the brown the same way after I am done if I have any too dark of spots are any paint has ran I go back and use the Khaki with the clippings and paint over it until I am satisfied . there's nothing magic about doing this its just a thing that each time you do it you get better at it believe me . if you don't have a old stock to practice on use a 2x4 a couple of feet long you will see how it all comes together . Your paint job should give your rifle that disappearing look , put it against a tree at 25 to 30 yards it should start to blend right in if not go back and touch it up as needed , set it in grass & weeds the farther you are away from it the more it disappears that's the test of a good cammo job
Hope this helps be creative and you will see just how easy the job was .
Check out this website - No Ugly Guns:
Lot's of good ideas here. :cool:
January 1, 2003, 12:06 PM
They have some nice patterns there. I personally think the more you get away from smaller patterns and go for bolder break up, you have better results. This is why I like the ASAT type pattern camo best of them all. They continue to "break" the outline of the gun and wearer at a distance, when all the others tend to "blob" and show a silhouette at distance, and not that far a distance at that. Definition is important, and that cant really be accomplished with spray cans, the brush is much more effective here. I also think the light tan/sand color as a base is more effective in more environs than any other. I basicly like to follow what the "critters" in the area wear, and I dont see to many in green. :)
January 1, 2003, 01:54 PM
I have used many types of spray paints, the one that work best is Brownells bake on paint, 2nd best is Dupli-Color high heat "Ceramic" paint, it is oil and gas resistant, this is engin paint & handle temp up to1200*, stuff works great and CLP & break free and hoppes#9 doesnt remove it, like it does with Krylon.
Another thing that I'd like to mention & alot of people use this stuff, it is Truck Bed Liner, it gives a lite texture and is black, this has proved to be very durable & easy to apply.
All spray paint & truck bed liner dry in a matter of minutes, but isnt 100% cured til 24hrs or more.
January 1, 2003, 02:54 PM
i just gotta! do this to my gun
January 1, 2003, 03:21 PM
Got my East German Rain Camo SKS stock from that place. Took some work fitting it properly to a Yugo SKS, but the results looked nice:
January 1, 2003, 03:41 PM
I have always done my own custom jobs. They turn out pretty well, I can't complain. I used the paint from Fred's M14 Stocks out of Shotgun News. I think just about any kind of camo paint from Walmart will work.
I did a spray paint camo job on my Mossberg 835 shotgun(I shoot shotguns maybe once every 5 years). The hardwood stock made the whole gun look cheap so I had nothing to lose. Just taped off the metal and spayed away with 2 shades of green, black, and a little brown. Looks great, been two years now with no problem.
January 1, 2003, 08:08 PM
Hey Sisco... looks good. Was that a wood or synthetic stock?
I think I'm gonna try that later this year.
January 1, 2003, 08:59 PM
12 Volt Man
January 2, 2003, 10:59 AM
I have done the handguards on my AK-47 as well as the standard stock on a 10/22 in truck bed liner. Comes in a spray can and can be picked up at wally-world or your local auto parts store. Only about 7 bucks a can. Turns out nice. Has been very durable so far.
-On a side note, I did a couple of AK mags with this stuff and they turned out great. Just use them for the range and banging around in the shooting bag. I also did a mag for my AR and the stuff has started to come off in flakes. I don't know why it did not work on the AR mag.
(wow.....the side note was longer than my post! Sorry)
January 2, 2003, 12:13 PM
Cisco, I also used this truck bed liner on AK stock & handguards, also used it on a few com block mags, and it is holding up great.
The trick to using any paint, is prepping, no oil is a must and deglossed is very important.
January 2, 2003, 02:19 PM
How does that truck bed liner do on barrels?Seems like it would be cheaper,faster,and more durable than reblueing.
January 2, 2003, 11:37 PM
454, truck bed liner, gives a lite texture, I would suggest using Brownells bake on paint, it's $9 per can & real easy to use and is very durable.
Truck bed liner is great on stocks & handguards and pistol grips.
January 3, 2003, 01:20 PM
Other than the problems on AR15 mags, has anyone ever had bad experiences with the truck bed liner? I'm thinking of this for a cheap SKS or maybe an SAR to get rid of that 3rd world bully look.
January 3, 2003, 01:46 PM
This is a picture of one of many stocks sets done in truck bed liner, I just recently purchased a K-Var stock set, I like the extra length.