Memorial Day


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Brian Williams
May 23, 2011, 08:58 PM
A while back my Dad was telling me about when he was the Whale boat pilot for his ship he would take along a 1911 on the Mail and Payroll runs. The mailman or the Paymaster and his guard took 1911s and the armorer would allow dad to take one along while slipping him a few extra full mags. I wish that I could find that 1911, it would never be sold.
On Monday May 23, 2011 I took my father to see the WWII memorial and this is my Father, a Boatswain's mate 1st, Served on the AO-79 an auxillary fleet oiler in the Pacific, the only oiler hit by a kamikaze. Again he was telling me today about shooting the flotsam and jetsam with a 1911 in the various harbors when he piloted the ships boat on mail and payroll runs. He was also telling me about being on the crew of the 40mm ack-ack gun that helped shoot down the kamikaze.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=142687&stc=1&d=1306198496
The plane hit the ship and the bomb did not explode but rolled around on the aft Avgas hold, Whew, Dad helped throw the bomb and the plane off the ship. Two of his buddies were killed.
He was awful quiet today when I took this pic at the WWII memorial.

WE also got to visit the Tomb of the Unknown soldier, here are a few pics of the guard and the M14 inspection
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=142719&stc=1&d=1306285017

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Brian Williams
May 23, 2011, 08:59 PM
OBTW we are going to close this thread 3 days after Memorial day.
Here are a few of the M14 the Tomb guards carry
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Rembrandt
May 23, 2011, 09:31 PM
Dad passed away a few years ago, he was trained as a Navy tail gunner in an SBD dive bomber, rode behind the pilot manning 30 caliber machine guns. Photo of his uniform shows the aerial gunner insignia....machine gun with wings. Stationed on Kwajalein Atoll in the Mariana Islands in the Pacific. Trained in Florida by shooting shotguns at clay targets from the back of moving trucks. Was present for history's forth Atomic bomb blast which occurred at Bikini Atoll in "Operation Crossroads" after the war ended.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Military/sbd-06.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Military/Navy3.jpg

Photos of number one son on his first tour of Afghanistan with some captured weapons....an AK and RPG. Currently on his second tour, hope to have him home in about a month.

God Bless those who served, past and present....

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buck1032
May 23, 2011, 10:06 PM
Rembrant,
Your Dad was an Aviation Machinists Mate 3rd Class. When I was 17 I couldnt even spell Mech, then I were one. ;) LOL

armoredman
May 23, 2011, 10:08 PM
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Two pictures of the same man, one shortly before his passing a few short years ago, and the other on his graduation of Radio Operators school in 1943, Classe 43-F, Goodman Field, San Angelo Texas. He operated a radio on a C-47 during the Normandy invasion, and had plenty of stories to tell. The revolver I bought for him 20 years ago, and it came back to me upon his passing.
Farewell, Pop, hand salute to you, sir.

Rembrandt
May 23, 2011, 10:12 PM
Rembrant,
Your Dad was an Aviation Machinists Mate 3rd Class. When I was 17 I couldnt even spell Mech, then I were one. LOL

You're correct, in those days they did double duty, when not riding in the back they also worked on the plane.

Ohio Gun Guy
May 23, 2011, 10:31 PM
We were looking through the papers of a Great Uncle who died a few years ago.... 164th Army WW2, Bronze Star. He didnt talk much about it, below is a summarized unit history from Wikipedia. He was in from Jan. 1941 - Late 1945. His experince there effected him greatly, his discharge paper list no wounds, but they didnt count PTSD back then.

Guadalcanal, Bougainville, Leyte, Cebu, Negros, and Bohol, (in the Philippines) They were slated to be part of the invasion of Japan when the war ended.

Thanks to all that have served, are serving, and the families at home!

O C
May 28, 2011, 04:32 PM
My daughter and grandaughter went to Andersonville to place American flags on the graves of the soldiers who died there. Even though they were "Yankees", they were Americans... God Bless..

jimmyraythomason
May 28, 2011, 04:37 PM
they were AmericansI hope some-one extends the same courtesy at Elmira and Point Lookout.

HGUNHNTR
May 28, 2011, 04:40 PM
Yankees don't care about the war anymore, Im sure they will. Those folks in the ground are just other people, same as them, to a Yankee. This is a touch off topic no?

Ohio Gun Guy
May 28, 2011, 06:15 PM
Every Civil War grave I have seen either CS or US has been given an flag that I have seen, even here in "Yankee" land.

I'm a little confused how you would know and speak so difinatively for "Yankees". I dont think we have forgotten, we just dont throw it around and try not to offend. To be honest your comment is a bit confusing, I'm hoping there is some sarcasim in there, johhny reb. ;)

Thanks to the OP, I have a Great Great Great Grandfather burried At the Danville Prison Union Cemetary.

jimmyraythomason
May 28, 2011, 08:10 PM
My own GGGrandfather is buried at Hollywood Cemetery(Confederate Section) in Richmond. He was exchanged in 1864 and died 2 weeks later after contracting chronic diarrhea at Point Lookout POW Camp in Maryland. GOD bless all who died for a cause.

Smokey Joe
May 28, 2011, 08:49 PM
IMHO, ALL of the soldiers who died in the Civil War were American casualties.

I don't care to re-fight the conflict with anyone. That doesn't mean that I don't have an opinion about the causes, generals, outcome, tactics, mistakes, innovations, and deep feelings about the Civil War, I just don't want to scratch scabs with you or anyone else.

"The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract...."

Detachment Charlie
May 28, 2011, 09:11 PM
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe!
To you from failing hands, we throw
The torch-Be yours to hold it high!
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Detachment Charlie
May 28, 2011, 09:22 PM
God bless your daughter and granddaughter.

JTHunter
May 28, 2011, 09:55 PM
AMEN!

buck1032
May 28, 2011, 11:46 PM
I have been to Andersonville, a few years ago. A very somber place.

hso
May 29, 2011, 12:51 AM
Veteran's Day and Memorial Day are not the same.

Memorial Day is to honor those who sacrificed all they had for their country and not those who were willing to but were lucky enough to survive.

Kliegl
May 29, 2011, 01:20 AM
Indeed. Memorial Day is for those that paid the most.

cemjr
May 29, 2011, 07:26 AM
and may he give rest to the souls of those who have given thier lives for the cause of Freedom for us all.

relentlessknives.com
May 29, 2011, 09:11 AM
Thanks to every American soldier and their families for their sacrifices.
The quote below is from a small support our troops program that I have run for the last 7 or so years.

I support the troops for selfish reasons.....those being Liberty and FREEDOM!
The USA was started through Great sacrifice with one idea. That men were made to be FREE. That no man has the right to take a life without due cause, or enslave a population by force. American soldiers have fought and died all over the planet.....yet never without due cause and never against the principles stated above. I am so very proud of this.......and of our soldiers.
Several in my family died for that idea, as did your brothers in arms.....SAD ...yes, but the tree of liberty has grown from their blood. I know you know this....but take every opportunity to repeat it. Never give up on freedom. Not while you are a soldier.....not when you are 99 years old.
Americans are presently free men and women.....it can be lost in the blink of an eye.
It is a true and precious gift from God, and has made the USA the greatest country the earth has ever known.Not an Empire of Tyrants.....just a whole lot of great people who appreciate humanity and understand that it's liberty that allows men to grow.
Certainly there will always be bad guys, and they do keep cops, soldiers and weapons makers in business.... But they have to be kept in check or we are all toast....so
That's it....I'll get down from my soap box
Thanks for participating in our program.
Your donations and photos will result in it's continuance and put a smile on the face of your fellow Americans.

Thanks in Advance
for YOUR help in this endeavor


Please help in the 2011 MAP Program.

Here is a short story to further illustrate.
I get email inquiries from all over the world about knives.
A few years ago, I received an inquiry from a guy in China.
He wanted to order several knives, and sent me photos of
his knife collection of US made knives.
For some reason this seemed strange to me, as they were all very high priced knives. Counterfeiting by the Chi Com is no joke in my business,
so I asked him a few questions. Mainly how he could afford such luxuries
as was not his country communist were each gives all and gets little.

He explained that he was the CEO of a large manufacturing company in China,
and sent some photos of his living quarters etc. All very nice.
The emails continued for several days, and in the conversation, he told me that yes he was a powerful guy, and yes he was allowed to acquire certain luxuries....but.....he was not allowed to leave the factory.

I told him that i didn't want my knives ending up in such a place, because a small part of my soul lives in each knife I make by hand.
Further I told him that I believe in freedom.....and to look out his window at
a bird. A creature free to fly were it wanted when ever it wanted.
I told him that human beings were made to be free....like that bird.
Upon my furtherance of this concept, the guy requested that I stop
writing about such things and get back to business. He furthered that
by telling me it would be very dangerous for him to continue
the emails and transaction if I did not get back on topic. That he could not only loose his position, but his life.
I then bid him good day.....and hoped that he would remember what I told him about the bird.

So YEAH.....God Bless every American who has died realizing that death is sweet compared to life with the boot of another man on his neck.

bikerdoc
May 29, 2011, 09:32 AM
To the 58,044 who gave all in Vietnam.

hso
May 29, 2011, 10:09 AM
The fact that Memorial Day has been misremembered by almost everyone in this country is not completely our fault. Holidays have been twisted from their original purpose into marketing opportunities and the marketeers have twisted that even further to remove any solemnity so that the holiday is as "happy" as possible. Happy holidays sell more junk to people.

It's as effective a form of propaganda as any ever devised and it changes all our memory/view of those holidays.

I'll put a flag on my dad's grave for Veteran's Day in November since he survived WWII (lucky for me), but Monday I'll head out to the old Civil War cemetery for the men that fought and died here.

relentlessknives.com
May 29, 2011, 10:48 AM
So YEAH.....God Bless every American who has died realizing that death is sweet compared to life with the boot of another man on his neck.Including Civil War soldiers on both sides. Each who believed the were fighting for freedom.

I'll put a flag on my dad's grave for Veteran's Day in November since he survived WWII (lucky for me), but Monday I'll head out to the old Civil War cemetery for the men that fought and died here.

MrsSmith
May 29, 2011, 01:04 PM
A prayer in memory of all who've died in service to our country and especially those in the F.A. units who departed Schofield Barracks, HI, in December 1967 and didn't make it back to the world.

antiquus
May 30, 2011, 12:15 AM
Too much to tell, Pop was a GI who landed on Leyte, Mindinao, and Okinawa. He ended up in the occupation of Japan.

One funny story I do want to tell here, about how cocky those WWII veterans were, was my Pop and a Japanese pimp stealing a deuce and a half, and sneaking into Hiroshima the back way since the MP's wouldn't let anyone within 20 miles of the place.

The not funny thing was what he saw.

Spent yesterday at Shiloh. Walked the Bloody Lane/Hornet's Nest. I was in awe. My guide was the local chairman of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. I live in George Custer's hometown. My ancestor, John A Logan, founded Memorial Day.

HD_Ride
May 30, 2011, 12:36 AM
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61chalk
May 30, 2011, 08:02 AM
To my Great Uncle Cambell that I never met, who died fighting in the South Pacific in WWII.....Thank You, I will never forget your sacrifice.

zeek96
May 30, 2011, 08:30 AM
Please thank him for his service

shootingthebreeze
May 30, 2011, 11:38 AM
This Memorial Day, as a veteran with 20 years of service want to honor all the men and women who died in combat and thank those who are injured recovering from their wounds or totally disabled for life due to their injuries.
As Soldiers, we go where our policy makers tell us to go. We don't make policy; we may gripe, but we do our job, defending the United States of America.

hso
May 30, 2011, 01:13 PM
In memory of the 1,572 who have died in OEF, the 4,439 who died in OIF and the 2 who died in Operation New Dawn.

DWC
May 30, 2011, 02:00 PM
In armed defense of the United States of America, more than 1,343,812 of our citizens have died.

In armed defense of the United States of America, more than 1,529,230 of our citizens suffered wounds but survived carrying those physical scars for the rest of their lives.

In the history of the United States of America, approximately 30,000,000 citizens have taken the oath to defend under arms this Nation and its Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.

Today, approximately 2,200,000 citizens are serving on active or reserve duty in armed defense of this Nation and its Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and domestic

Today, approximately 23,500,000 military veterans are alive with intensive training in the use of arms and who continue to honor their oath to defend this Nation and its Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. I am one of them.

We veterans have all returned to the status of “civilian” but we have not forgotten who we are; what we have done; and the Rights for which we have fought. One of those is the Right of armed self defense.

Nearly 3 million of our forefathers and Brothers-In-Arms have suffered death or wounds in defense of our Unalienable Rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I can think of no greater way to dishonor their memory and their sacrifice than to allow any of those Rights to be violated by domestic criminals in the name of cowardice or political correctness.

As we have defended our Nation under arms, so shall we defend ourselves.

Semper Fi,

infuriatednoodle
May 30, 2011, 03:23 PM
God Bless

shootingthebreeze
May 30, 2011, 05:03 PM
Too many people forget.
I don't. I fly the flag not only on Memorial Day or the 4th of July but every day-and, sadly, I'm one of two people on our block who fly the flag.
We can put flags on the tomb stones of the war dead-yet, many others are suffering silently in hospitals and recovery centers suffering from combat wounds.
Many will be on permanent, life long disability.
My serious concern is to not forget our wounded veterans after the conflict is past and forgotten. Too many times that happens, veterans who go homeless, or turn to alcohol or drugs.
Destitute and forgotten.
We have to remember all dead combat veterans AND our wounded combat veterans as well. Too often, the wounded become "dead" because they become an "inconvenience", someone everyone wants to "forget" because they are associated with an unpopular conflict.
Never ignore, never forget, all year round, don't just remember on Memorial Day.

Tomcat47
May 30, 2011, 05:32 PM
I am trying to get my Uncles and grandpas info and pictures! If I recieve it all before thread closes I will post it!

My mothers brother served many years on the USS America
My Dads Brother served several years in Germany and His last years at Shaw AFB in SC. He was Aircraft Mechanic
My wifes Grandfather served in Germany During WW2...I can only Imagine what he had seen in those years.

Anyway This is to ALL who Served or Still Serve!

Some Gave All! The Song and Video Says it All
http://youtu.be/ydWhRObVxrM

Hope you Like it! God Bless America

EddieNFL
May 30, 2011, 08:45 PM
Drove around Hurlburt Field and said a prayer at each street sign.

1stmarine
May 30, 2011, 09:16 PM
Amen!

Tomcat47
May 30, 2011, 09:51 PM
We have 2 business facilities and we Proudly Fly the Flag all year and follow Flag Ettiquette on each observed holiday.

Today was no exception for sure!

Half Mast Till Noon.........Then To The Top!

And as above noted..It is disheartening to see the lack of patriotism today...not enough flags! Hardly no flag ettiquette even when they are flown.

But then we stopped directing our children to Pledge Allegience years ago...and to teach them in youth what it represents!
I still think it should be done in school! (My Opinion!)

My children are grown, and starting to have their own children, they all know how to fly the flag and when to fly it! I took my 3 sons through BSA and I think it stuck! Im Glad!

alsaqr
May 30, 2011, 10:36 PM
The fact that Memorial Day has been misremembered by almost everyone in this country is not completely our fault. Holidays have been twisted from their original purpose into marketing opportunities and the marketeers have twisted that even further to remove any solemnity so that the holiday is as "happy" as possible. Happy holidays sell more junk to people.

It's as effective a form of propaganda as any ever devised and it changes all our memory/view of those holidays.

This is very true. The real purpose of Memorial Day has been lost to the vast majority of US citizens.

The old name for Memorial Day was Decoration Day. My Dad always called it Decoration Day.

Tomcat47
May 30, 2011, 10:49 PM
You know I noticed something this memorial day!

I just turned 45 and have heard comments in the past and this year as some people got a 3 day weekend...Have a Happy Memorial Day!

I could not in retrospect put these words together!

I honored this day and kept my known family that are not with us anymore that served in the military, and others that were friends or family of my friends that did not come home.

I explained to a younger man today that this was not a weekend to party, but a weekend to remember those that died for your freedom!

FROGO207
May 30, 2011, 10:51 PM
All the family here made it back each war but they always make sure that we Never Forget who the real heros were, those that gave all. I too fly a flag and am sadly in the minority around here. Prayers for those that gave all so that we here are still safe and free.

1stmarine
May 31, 2011, 12:30 AM
Thanks to Grandpa the Army surgeon for being there on D day operating on the wounded.
Thanks to Grandma the Army nurse for being there on D day assisting the wounded.
Thanks to my Dad and my Brother for serving.
Thanks to my buddy J.E. for being my wing man through the good and the bad.
Thanks to all veterans, our troops, allies and defenders of freedom whetever they might be around the world.
Thanks those who posted those nice pictures.

bgtusker
May 31, 2011, 02:00 AM
I'd like to honor All that have died, were wounded or survived for what they have done to keep us free. I have just lost a neighbor Thursday May 26, 2011 along with another soldier with him. Tech. Sgt. Kristoff M. Solesbee died doing what he loved: saving lives. Solesbee, 32, from Hill Air Force Base, died Thursday in the Shorabak district of Kandahar Province, Afganistan. He died of wounds he suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. Staff SGT. Joseph J. Hamski, 28 of Ottumwa, Iowa, also was killed. Solesbee's task as a member of the 775th Civil Engineer Squadron, Explosive Ordinance Disposal Flight, was to detect and disarm such weapons, a duty he carried out faithfully every day he served his country, his comrades in uniform said of him at a news conferance Friday evening. "He was a good guy, and will be missed." Solesbee wanted to be a 30-year career man and become a chief master sergeant. His supervisor, Master Sgt. Hallenback was very, very saddened. It was his second deployment and his unit was responding to clear a weapons cache when they were attacked. He was scheduled to come home in two or three months. Col Patrick Higby said he had one of the most dangerous jobs of all deployed units. Solesbee leaves behind a wife. " His sacrifice and service are not forgotten, and he will be greatly missed." Solesbee will be buried with full honors at Arlington National Cemetary in Washington D.C. May he rest in peace.

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