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telewinz
January 15, 2004, 07:01 AM
A friend purchased one and we were shooting it at the range, uncommon but very powerful round 1400 fps. If I were 20 years younger I might get one but with Wally World's cheap 9mm and 40S&W economics point away from the Sig.

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cratz2
January 15, 2004, 10:35 AM
...but with Wally World's cheap 9mm and 40S&W economics point away from the Sig.

Yep...

Climb14er
January 15, 2004, 10:55 AM
and...

I'm 51, and in darn good mountain climbing condition and I shoot and CCW a Sig P239 357 Sig. I don't understand if there's any problems with the round.

Or is something trying to be 'stirred up'.

The 9mm vs. 357 Sig debate has been battered around all the forums for a long time.

If you like the 9mm, so be it! If you like the 357 Sig, that's good.

As my Mom used to say, 'to each his own'. :)

Enjoy whatever you shoot.

Amish_Bill
January 15, 2004, 12:04 PM
The only thing I have against the .357Sig is that the 229 is not as comfortable to carry as the 228. :-)

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
January 15, 2004, 01:17 PM
I sure love my P229 in 357sig. Besides, I'm at an age and level in my career that I can afford to feed it without worrying about the cost of the diet.

FWIW, everything else I own in an autopistol is a 9MM.

The P229 is the daily carry piece 95% of the time, though.

It is a tremendous amount of fun at indoor ranges, especially next to the unsuspecting.

Regards,
Rabbit.

Texas Grey
January 15, 2004, 10:14 PM
The Texas Dept. of Public Safety (DPS) transitioned from the P-220 and P-226 (9mm) to the 357 Sig in 1997. This was before the rise in popularity of the 40 S&W.

Following seven years of statistics captured from field firearms discharges, a large amount of data indicates this auto-pistol/caliber combination (with our current ammunition) is the best since the inception of DPS.

Seems we are getting ready for another transition to a new model DOA Sig which has a reported 5-6lb first shot trigger pull.

If history repeats itself, current commissioned members will be allowed to purchase their duty weapon (or all they can tote) and the remaining will be traded to Sig and/or sold to licensed firearms dealers.

I think this will be my fourth.

fawndog
January 15, 2004, 10:28 PM
I have a 229 also, the only thing I regret is not (yet) getting a 226, I had to buy a Fire Dragon barrel to convert from .40->.357 and damn is it accurate.

Brigrat
January 15, 2004, 11:07 PM
I don't think anyone will feel undergunned with a 357sig, my 9mm argument is that ballistics are pretty close, and I can afford to practice more, and follow up shots are quicker with the 9mm. I would still like a 357 sig, but 9mm will be my defense round of choice untill I get the 10mm fever which I feel commin on!

Grayrider
January 16, 2004, 09:05 AM
First let me say welcome aboard to Texas Grey! I hope you will enjoy your stay here at what has become my favorite forum for handgun chat.

On the subject of .357 Sig, I have been sorely tempted by this round but don't know anyone who has a pistol chambered for it. I was thinking a barrel for my CZ-75B might prove interesting. How does the cartridge shoot in terms of recoil and accuracy? Mind you I mainly shoot 45 and 10mm, so recoil doesn't bother me a bit. The reason I ask is I am curious how it compares to .38 Super? I love that round because it is so accurate and recoils softly enough that I can knock down steel fast with it. A similar round out of my CZ would be a blast.

GR

Texas Grey
January 16, 2004, 10:26 AM
GR- Thanks for the welcome. I’ve been here since the “change” but usually read what others have to say.

Glock has a series dedicated to the 357Sig. I carry the palm size 33 on and off duty in any configuration you can imagine. Several custom builders offer barrels that will exchange nicely with a 40 cal.

Those who have ingested a large amount of 9mm fire will sometimes complain of a rotating recoil and a sharper blast from the little bottleneck, and I don’t disagree.
But I find a weapon in the size/weight area of the P-226 and excellent platform for the cartridge. The ardent 45 shooter doesn’t notice it.

However, at the end of the day reliability and accuracy let the constant user of this “tool” sleep better. I have never had a fail to fire, or misfire from this weapon/ammo combination. Issued sights and the overall superior mechanics add to an accuracy not seen in my career. Regular hits on one liter soda bottles at 100 yards are common during “play time” at qualification. From piercing and disrupting the working innards of a Kenworth, to sending a fast moving Harley-Davidson down like von Richthofen, I would choose the Sig in this configuration.

I feel the 38 Super is likely a ballistic twin of the 357Sig. I’ve only fired this cartridge through a 1911 frame and was impressed with the accuracy and smoothness. But the Colt is somewhat like my first date…she was the prettiest, nice to touch, but you wouldn’t take her fishing.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
January 16, 2004, 12:33 PM
Yes, welcome Texas Grey...I have several friends with TxDPS and the Rangers. All who I've talked to seem to like 357sig pretty well. I know the Dallas PD still uses it also and their results have been positive. I certainly have never felt disadvantaged by choosing this cartrige.


I've been playing with the concept of building a BHP or FM in 357sig, but then again, it'd be easier and just as much fun to buy another Sig.


Regards,
Rabbit.

Grayrider
January 16, 2004, 12:35 PM
Thanks for the info Texas! I think I will put a conversion barrel for my CZ on my short list of things to buy next.

GR

Amish_Bill
January 16, 2004, 01:39 PM
Greyrider - your cz IS in .40, right? You cannot use a .357Sig barrel to convert a 9mm, only a .40sw. The head of the .357Sig cartridge is the same size as a .40S&W, which is larger than a 9mm.

BHPshooter
January 16, 2004, 01:40 PM
I've been playing with the concept of building a BHP or FM in 357sig, but then again, it'd be easier and just as much fun to buy another Sig.

If you were trying to build one off of a 9mm it would be pretty hard, but AFAIK, if you get a .40 Hi Power, all that needs to be changed is the barrel.

That's about the only reason that I can see myself buying a .40 Hi Power for.

Wes

Grayrider
January 16, 2004, 01:50 PM
Yup.

GR

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
January 16, 2004, 03:33 PM
ditto, fumy.

Regards,
Rabbit.

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