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Hastings
May 29, 2011, 05:29 PM
I started out my shoot experience in the seventies with 1911's, Ruger revolvers of the DA and SA variety, and later moved to S&W revolvers and Browning Hi Powers as a focus. I've shot S&W semi-autos a bunch, and the odd Walther, FN, Beretta and Sig. I seldom keep a gun if I loose interest in it, or don't shoot it. I don't collect, I shoot.

I went looking for a new carry gun this past week. I spent a few days struggling with which gun to choose because I was concerned about how the finish would hold up to the humidity, sweat, and general wear. Last year's summer carry gun was a S&W 640, but I abandoned it because it was to small and awkward for me to shoot freqently.

I looked at several pretty guns, and finally the thought dawned on me, try a Glock. I'd never shot a Glock, and generally dislike polymer framed pistols. I've tried FN's, Walthers, S&W's, and Taurus"s, and didn't care for any of them. Well, I thought to myself, if the gun is ugly to begin with, and you don't care about the appearance, it won't matter how much sweat, crude, and abuse the thing receives. So I bought a Glock 23, and I love the thing. It's so damn utilitarian, it's hard to not love it, kind of like a can opener or a hammer. It's as accurate as any other stock autoloader I've owned, feeds anything I load it with, and I can wade thru deep trout pools with it in my pocket if I feel like it.

I have to say, this is the most liberating gun-related experience I've ever had. It's in the 80's, today, with extreme humidity, and I was out planting stuff in the garden with the 23 in an IWB holster. I would never do that with a 1911, or a S&W revolver. I think I've gone over to the dark side, and wish I'd done so a long time ago. Just thought I'd relate this experience. I still love the looks of a good S&W revolver, or beautifully blued Hi Power, but for a long time I've viewed firearms more as an art form and suddenly I find it's easier, more practical, and even more enjoyable for me to view them purely as a tool without all the focus on fancy grips, shiney finish and all that. I know this is not revelation to many out there, but it is to me.

I'm gonna get me a few more Glocks, now. Best thing since bullets, I say.

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MarkDozier
May 30, 2011, 06:46 AM
Someone get the holy water. He is possesed.
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MikePaiN
May 30, 2011, 07:17 AM
I'm gonna get me a few more Glocks, now. Best thing since bullets, I say
Glocks are the way to go....I love mine, the pistols just work and can do just about everything. except......
I only wish Glock made a really small pistol for EDC.....

metalman8600
May 30, 2011, 12:08 PM
Just wait until you try a M&P!

Red Cent
May 30, 2011, 01:00 PM
Hey, I bet that is Gaston. If that ain't a commercial, I'll.............

JROC
May 30, 2011, 01:25 PM
The cool thing about Glocks is you love to hate on them for their popularity, and the way people swear by them compared to other guns, you think they are butt ugly guns, and you want to feel like Glock fans are just fanboy's who like to way over-hype their guns.

Then you decide to get one to see what all the hype is about, and you realize just how good a gun it really is. You say to yourself that "yeah it's a good gun, and I like it." As time goes on, and the gun grows on you even more you start to find that the plain looking boxiness that you once found ugly to start to look like an attractive gun, and you reach the point to where you actually like how it looks, and you realize that you really like the gun a whole lot.

You also feel that it's pretty amazing how you can like something so much, but not worry about pampering it, or feeding it some abuse because as you said I do things with my Glock that I would never do with my 1911.

Hastings
May 30, 2011, 02:59 PM
JROC, you pretty much summed it up. I didn't intend for the post to be a commercial for Glocks, just an expression of enthusiasm for a very clean, well designed tool that seemingly ignores the issue of appearance and gets straight to work on doing it's job and doing it well. Sort of like a Model T Ford. But even though little attention has been given to sculpting the slide, adding glitzy finishes, and exotic wood grips, the things are appealing to look at. Form following function.

I have tried the M&P, the FNP, the CZ Rami, and several other polymer guns, but from my perspective most of these go to far toward trying to dress up the slide and grips to look cooler. I did think the M&P and the XD shot fairly well, but in spite of the more sculpted slide I found both of them looked and felt boxier than Glocks do. It may just be optical illusion, but Glocks look and feel like the bore axis is set lower than the other guns I've mentioned. I really dislike Sigs and XDs because they feel like the bore is unusually high and the recoil is more of a torque around your hand than a push like a Glock.

I'm not bashing these other polymer or alloy framed guns, just saying that for me they all stray a little to far into form to compete with the Glock on function alone, and not enough into form to really compete with a 1911, Hi Power, or S&W Revolver. If you're going to go polymer, I think you may as well say "ta hell" with any embellishment and keep the gun as stripped down and purely functional as possible. Same theory works for knives. If it's to pretty, somewhere in the back of your mind there is a voice saying "You're going to ruin it if you're not careful !" Some people seem unhindered by this voice, but packing a pristine nickel plated S&W 58 with perfect unmarred factory magna grips on a trip up a rocky mountain side seems unnecessarily chavelier.

W.E.G.
May 30, 2011, 03:01 PM
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Glock/kool_aidGlock.jpg somebody say "holy water?"... :D http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/humor/trashcan.jpg

mstreddy
May 30, 2011, 09:49 PM
Hastings, as some would say "Welcome to the DARK SIDE". It's fun here. For me, switching to Glocks was because a 19 fit my hand much better than a Beretta 92. That was back in 89 and I haven't looked back at all. Yes, I love my slick 1911's, own a Beretta 92 (inox - would never trust the brunitron finish to not rust). But for my hands not much out there fits better. And I love the simplicity and low maintenance - you pegged it right - utilitarian.

Lord Palmerston
May 30, 2011, 10:21 PM
Well, the fact is that, back in 1980, Mr. Gaston Glock opened a new way. Since then, handgun design saw dramatic changes and a lot of them were inspired by GLOCK.

cwp3420
May 31, 2011, 01:50 AM
I've shot lots of Glocks. That's why I carry HK pistols now.

ugaarguy
May 31, 2011, 02:26 AM
I have to say, this is the most liberating gun-related experience I've ever had. It's in the 80's, today, with extreme humidity, and I was out planting stuff in the garden with the 23 in an IWB holster. I would never do that with a 1911, or a S&W revolver. I think I've gone over to the dark side, and wish I'd done so a long time ago. Just thought I'd relate this experience. I still love the looks of a good S&W revolver, or beautifully blued Hi Power, but for a long time I've viewed firearms more as an art form and suddenly I find it's easier, more practical, and even more enjoyable for me to view them purely as a tool without all the focus on fancy grips, shiney finish and all that. I know this is not revelation to many out there, but it is to me.

I'm gonna get me a few more Glocks, now. Best thing since bullets, I say.

I guess it's all about perspective. For some Glocks are a cheap knock around tool. For a little more than half the price you can get a 3rd Gen S&W Sigma. The Sigmas have a heavy trigger pull, but the 3rd Gen (out for several years now) models have proven themselves utterly reliable. Because of pursuits to continue my education I'm working part time for a big box sporting goods store. For many of my customers their Glock is their nice gun, and their Sigma is their knock around gun.

For me, a used Kimber Classic Custom (Pre Series II) is my knock around gun. That piece is mechanically excellent (save the one grip screw bushing I messed up tonight during post range trip cleaning & grip switch :banghead: ), but it came into the local shop with exterior looking pretty bad. By bad I mean a small chunk missing from one of the forward slide serrations, and some sort of orange paint or fingernail polish applied to the front sight. I keep it clean & wiped down with Eezox. It'll put all 50 rounds in the 8 ring or better when I'm on; a full box into a ragged hole where 10 & X rings when a range master friend plays with it. I bought it for about the price of a used Glock.

I have friends like you, Hastings, who also use Glocks as knock around guns.

Utility guns are good, whatever your definition of utility may be. :D

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