Send a message by buying a gun on Memorial day?


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elcaminoariba
May 30, 2011, 07:58 AM
Since every firearm purchase causes bureaucrats to "instacheck" us, I think Memorial day is a great day to send a message with a purchase. Fewer people camping, less gas bought, more GUNS bought would be a nice message.

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earlthegoat2
May 30, 2011, 08:18 AM
Find a store open and I might consider it.

EddieNFL
May 30, 2011, 08:39 AM
I'm sure the box stores will be open, but the only LGS I'll buy from will be closed as the owner is a vet.

RugerBob
May 30, 2011, 09:53 AM
I'd like too. Bought one last week and the gun fund has to be built back up. Not buying any gas tho....lol.

skoro
May 30, 2011, 10:07 AM
I bought a shotgun Saturday, does that count?

Birdmang
May 30, 2011, 10:09 AM
Cabela's is open!

jimmyraythomason
May 30, 2011, 10:55 AM
Nah,I won't be sending any political messages on Memorial Day. I'll spend it as it was intended. Commemorating the sacrifice of those fallen in defense of our country and putting flags on the graves of veterans. I'll make my statements another time.

hso
May 30, 2011, 02:16 PM
I don't think prostituting the memory of those that gave all, even in what you perceive as a good cause, is very high road.

Owen Sparks
May 30, 2011, 02:31 PM
I paid cash for a .45 in a parking lot Wednesday, does that count?

azmjs
May 30, 2011, 04:26 PM
And what's the message you imagine that it would send?

buck460XVR
May 30, 2011, 04:35 PM
I don't think prostituting the memory of those that gave all, even in what you perceive as a good cause, is very high road.

I hafta agree. This is their day, not ours.

Heretic
May 30, 2011, 04:53 PM
I think July 4th would be more appropriate.

CTPhil
May 30, 2011, 05:01 PM
There should be a National Buy A Gun Day.

elcaminoariba
May 30, 2011, 08:17 PM
I don't think prostituting the memory of those that gave all, even in what you perceive as a good cause, is very high road.

What a raunchy thing to say. "Prostituting?" That term wasn't high road at all in this situation (in addition to being over the top). You're essentially saying that I'm insulting the memory of the fallen because I don't share your point of view. Again, very low road reaction. You could have just said "I prefer to spend memorial day only thinking about the fallen." So if I choose to use memorial day different from you, then I'm selling it for money and insulting the fallen? If I choose to use memorial day for the benefit of the LIVING, then I'm not as good as you, and worthy of being insulted (equating my belief with prostitution was an insult hso)?

Jim_100
May 30, 2011, 08:25 PM
Wow.

zxcvbob
May 30, 2011, 08:29 PM
Memorial Day is not a day for sending a message (not even "Thanks" to the veterans, there's another day for that, or pick any day except Memorial Day) it's a day for solemn reflection. For decorating the graves of those who fell in battle.

If you want to buy a gun because you want to buy a gun, go for it. Be thankful that you can buy one; that seems entirely appropriate to me.

Walkalong
May 30, 2011, 08:35 PM
Today is for all the men and women who fought for our freedoms, many of whom paid the ultimate price, their lives.

They did not "play" with guns at the range, they put themselves in harms way for our country.

It is Memorial day, not buy a gun to play with day.

God bless all of our veterans. Salute.

clutch
May 30, 2011, 08:42 PM
I took a new shooter to the club range. That was good enough for me today.

Clutch

armoredman
May 30, 2011, 08:47 PM
I went to work and asked my staff to remember the fallen. Best I could do.

EddieNFL
May 30, 2011, 09:24 PM
Memorial Day is not a day for sending a message (not even "Thanks" to the veterans, there's another day for that, or pick any day except Memorial Day) it's a day for solemn reflection. For decorating the graves of those who fell in battle.

Yet here we all are arguing about who is morally superior.

zxcvbob
May 30, 2011, 10:25 PM
I dont know where you got that from my post, but you should have at least quoted the last part too.

Double Naught Spy
May 30, 2011, 10:34 PM
Send a message? What is that message supposed to be? You assume that said beaurocrats will pay enough attention to know that guns were purchased on a given day and even if they do notice, they won't have a clue what it means, regardless of the day that it is done.

Moreover, without months of preplanning to get people on board, the whole idea is just plain doomed to fail, despite being tacky as hso noted.

Ignition Override
May 30, 2011, 10:36 PM
Yesterday went with a friend and my young, grown son to shoot in a natural setting.
We had the Garand and an Enfield "Jungle Carbine". That was a reminder of what so many people fought with.

Even though I carried the M-1 the quarter mile to 'the spot', my son was reminded by me and the friend how our troops in Italy and many Pacific Islands etc sometimes marched many, many difficult miles with very heavy gear and in much hotter, even humid weather, not including combat.

InkEd
May 30, 2011, 10:49 PM
How about you show the proper degree of respesct for the deceased and stfu?

Whatever political message you think you're sending won't even be noticed by anyone in the government. Save it for another day.

Memorial Day IS for remembering those that have passed in service of our country. Please observe it accordingly.

-InkEd

P.S. It is sad that the majority of the people do not treat today as a more solemn occassion for the brave and dearly depart.

kozak6
May 30, 2011, 10:56 PM
What message does it send, and to whom is it intended?

If you ask me, mass firearm purchases seem to send a message of fear more than anything.

saenzrich
May 30, 2011, 11:04 PM
I bought a Ruger mark III but not for any reason concerning the op.

I think today our message is to remember the fallen soldiers who gave it all so we can have the freedoms we that are slowly being taken away. GOD BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES!

Old krow
May 30, 2011, 11:16 PM
To the OP: You have not only my permission, but my request to buy a gun on Memorial Day when I die, but not to send a message to DC. (and you have it writing) I would prefer that you buy a 1911 simply because I have always had a soft spot for them, and because it was my first service pistol, but those are just my preferences. Then, go shoot it. When you're done, place the first casing on my grave to let my children know that you care about the sacrifice that I would have made. They will know because they know how much those rights meant to me and why I said that I would die for them.

I think that the term "prostituting" might be a little over the top. You could do much worse than exercising a right that someone died for. You could also chose to exercise the First and say "thanks", but I would disagree with that statement as a whole.

elcaminoariba
May 30, 2011, 11:41 PM
Yea, buying a 1911 on memorial day does seem extra appropriate, but since all semi autos are semi based on the 1911, it doesn't matter. I just thought that memorial day, a day to remember our drafted soldiers who fought for the independence of this nation, was a good day to buy a weapon, which would be used to maintain the independence of a man and his family.

I'm amazed at the negative reaction from a tiny few on this. It's as if a person dosn't narrowly worship the fallen, or doesn't do it the way THEY do, then they think it's ok to attack you. I don't think the fallen soldiers would like the behavior of people like hso. If I died on a battlefield for the freedom and independence of my nation, I wouldn't want my fellow countrymen insulting a fellow citizen for trying to be positive and forward thinking about my holiday. Isn't memorial day about freedom? I thought it was. Gee, I thought our soldiers in the revolutionary war, the war of 1812, the spanish American war, were drafted to maintain the independence of this nation, and those in the world wars, korea and vietnam were drafted to help preserve liberty. Pardon me for not being interested in the sappy showy memorializing that the media peddles on memorial day.

I think making memorial day into "go camping weekend" with the rest of the herd, or "buy our discounted mattresses" weekend or "kick off the summer with a bbq" weekend truly is disrespectful to the memory of our drafted defenders, and I think most here would agree with that.

Owen Sparks
May 31, 2011, 12:00 AM
I usually only buy guns from individuals for cash, totally off the record. I don't want to "send a message" that I own lots of guns a to those who are trying to disarm me.

whalerman
May 31, 2011, 12:07 AM
Whether or not we all agree that buying a gun is the correct way to observe Memorial Day is not the point. I believe the idea was posted in good faith. The fact that our illustrious moderator decided to bless us with his supreme wisdom is the point. I'm surprised he didn't jump to lock the thread, as now, due to his input, it has deterioriated into a low road thread. People have to stop taking themselves so seriously. Even if they are moderators.

zxcvbob
May 31, 2011, 12:29 AM
I'm amazed at the negative reaction from a tiny few on this. It's as if a person dosn't narrowly worship the fallen, or doesn't do it the way THEY do, then they think it's ok to attack you.OK, I'm officially confused now. Didn't you *ask* for people's opinions? Look at that question mark in the subject line.

I don't see very many folks saying that buying a gun is a bad idea. I see folks (and I'm one of them) saying that buying a gun to make some vague Memorial Day political statement is a bad idea. Maybe you were expecting an echo chamber...

hso
May 31, 2011, 12:33 AM
You may want to check the dictionary for the definition of "prostitute".
The usage in this case is to use for an unworthy purpose or to debase.

Reminding members that co-opting the one day a year set aside to remember those who sacrificed their lives in service to the country isn't inappropriate. Putting memorial day to our own purpose makes us appear to be thoughtless and callous and it doesn't reflect well on us as a community.

rocky branch
May 31, 2011, 01:10 AM
This is a day we set aside to honor and remember our wartime fallen comrades.

Politicising it, having a sale, or otherwisw co opting it is a poor show indeed.

I don't speak for any of the guys I remember and don't think much of someone attempting to do so.

Some guys need to unwad their shorts and accept there are bigger things in the world than they are.

whalerman
May 31, 2011, 01:20 AM
I'm sure that was the spirit in which you introduced the word "prostitute", Mr Moderator. Your post was a perfect example of the low road angle you pretend to oppose. A simple apology would be in better taste. I believe the original idea was posted as a call to celebrate freedom. I'm not sure I would linked the two, Memorial Day and a gun purchase, but I can see the writer's point. Mr Mod had no call to take it where he did.

El Mariachi
May 31, 2011, 01:29 AM
You Kidz wanna see irony? I was actually half way down the freaking freeway today to go pick up my '83 s/s Blackhawk from the store when I finally had the foresight to call them.

They were closed......:rolleyes:

12131
May 31, 2011, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by whalerman:

I'm sure that was the spirit in which you introduced the word "prostitute", Mr Moderator. Your post was a perfect example of the low road angle you pretend to oppose. A simple apology would be in better taste. I believe the original idea was posted as a call to celebrate freedom.... I can see the writer's point. Mr Mod had no call to take it where he did.
Agree, especially the red part.

InkEd
May 31, 2011, 10:17 AM
No, Memorial Day not about expressing your freedom. It is about remembering those that died for freedom. Perhaps, you are thinking of Indepedence Day. I think ANY day is a good day to buy a firearm. Most instant background checks are done through an automated system that searches through various records. So, you can really show those microchips that you are making a statement.

4xfourfun
May 31, 2011, 10:37 AM
I say buy a gun everyday.

As far as the meaning of memorial day, its not the same for everyone. I guarantee you there is a difference between the way I think of it, and the way my grandfather does who watched friends/comrades perish in front of him. While our thoughts are the same in nature, they are still different I guarantee.

And while the fallen our the first to be remembered for the most part on Memorial day, also think of the widows/families that gave the loved ones, POW's, MIA's, etc...

dirtykid
May 31, 2011, 11:04 AM
Ditto,Inked Although i did seriously CONSIDER driving to Cabella's to drool over a new Ruger LC9 compact,I instead spent it with my family taking time to remind them exactly what the day meant,went to the range for a couple hours on Sunday,finished my weekend by hot-gluing 21-5.56 shells (not live) on the base of my fathers headstone,, it's about remembering,not making a statement,,

Neverwinter
May 31, 2011, 11:19 AM
Agree, especially the red part.
If you both would re-read the OP, you would see that there was explicit mention of "sending a message". A day of remembrance is an inappropriate time to be "sending messages".

Justin
May 31, 2011, 12:23 PM
Memorial Day has passed, so this thread isn't really relevant now.

That said, if there's one noteworthy day when people seem to be interested in buying guns, it generally seems to be around election day.

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