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hvychev77
May 30, 2011, 02:23 PM
i'm gonna be starting to reload some 9mm sometime soon and was wanting some input on the best powder. i'll mostlikely be reloading fmj bullets and i have a lee turret press with the disc powder measure. i would appreciate any advice fellas............thanks, hvychev77

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Steve Koski
May 30, 2011, 02:46 PM
Unique is outstanding in the 9mm.

rcmodel
May 30, 2011, 02:52 PM
+1
Unique is all I use with 115 & 124 grain bullets.

But there are other really good powders, depending on what bullet weight you are going to use.

rc

JerryM
May 30, 2011, 02:57 PM
I much prefer Universal Clays to anything else I have tried including Unique.
Jerry

hAkron
May 30, 2011, 04:15 PM
I like Hodgdon HP-38 for 9mm (as well as .380, 9mm Mak, .38 special, .40 S&W, and .45). I should mention that HP-38/W231 is the only powder that I've ever tried in these rounds so take it with a grain of salt.

ColtPythonElite
May 30, 2011, 04:16 PM
Unique works well for any 9mm bullet. For plated or jacketed, I like Power Pistol. It meters better than Unique and burns very clean.

bluetopper
May 30, 2011, 04:35 PM
Power Pistol was formulated specifically for the 9mm & 40 cal. But there are many that perform well in the 9mm. Green Dot has worked very well for me too.

J_McLeod
May 30, 2011, 05:51 PM
I've tried Unique, HP-38 and HS-6 so far. I like HP-38 and HS-6, got good results from both, but the HP-38 is easier with a Lee Perfect Powder measure.

wrench
May 30, 2011, 06:11 PM
I like Unique and WSF in 9mm. WSF meters better.

samurai
May 30, 2011, 06:39 PM
I use WST and WSF most of the time- Unique doesn't seem to meter consistent with my Lee turret press.

RidgwayCO
May 30, 2011, 07:00 PM
I'm now using VihtaVuori 3N37 to load all my 124gr jacketed bullets in 9mm Luger (Hornady 124gr FMJ-Encapsulated, Montana Gold 124gr CMJ, and Speer 124gr GDHP). It meters exceptionally well from my Lee Pro Auto Disk powder measure, burns clean, provides exceptional accuracy, and has a much reduced flash signature. It's a little more expensive than most powders, but (for me) the extra cost is worth it. Buy it in the 4lb containers from Powder Valley, and the cost becomes more accessible.

zxcvbob
May 30, 2011, 07:26 PM
Where are you trying to go with it?


Bullseye is great for 9mm. You can go a little faster with Unique but it doesn't measure as easily. 231 should be good for mid-range loads but I haven't tried it yet.
For top end load, WSF or Power Pistol or AA#7. Most of the other slow powders are too fluffy for 9mm; you'll fill the cases before you get the pressure up.
For light target loads, use Red Dot.

hvychev77
May 30, 2011, 08:15 PM
thanks for all the replies everyone. i'll probably just be shooting 115 grain bullets for target shooting. i'm hoping in the next year or so to set up some kind of a little target range here at home. i had heard that w231 is a clean burning powder but wanted to get some input on the other powders as well. specifically, which ones meter best for the disc powder measure in my Lee press. thanks again ya'll..........

scotch827
May 30, 2011, 08:48 PM
I use 4.2 grs of Bullseye with 115 Berrys Rn with no problems. Shoots 1050fps average out of a FS S&W M&P. I found the load on this site somewhere.

Scott

Blue68f100
May 30, 2011, 11:00 PM
Ball Powders 231 or WSF for the 115gr 9mm. Unique is a flake powder and it does not meter well in some powder dispensers. I do not like recommending Fast burn Powders like Bullseye or Tight Group for new comers. There is very little wiggle room for error will these.

1SOW
May 30, 2011, 11:16 PM
Thanks for all the replies everyone. i'll probably just be shooting 115 grain bullets for target shooting.


Win 231/HP-38 if you use the 'mid-range or higher' in the load data. This powder works perfectly in the LEE disc system. Its only drawback is that it shoots very 'sooty' at the lower end of the load data.

If you want lighter loads using the low end of the load data, use Vihtavuori n320 (more expensive but less powder needed) and it shoots clean with low-end loads. It also works very well with the LEE Discs.

Hope this helps.

medalguy
May 30, 2011, 11:18 PM
Take a look at Accurate Arms #5 or #7. Both meter extremely well and accurately.

ArchAngelCD
May 30, 2011, 11:33 PM
In the 9mm my best results have come with W231/HP-38 and Longshot.

wolfrage
May 31, 2011, 12:05 AM
I only use WSF for my 9mm reloads. Wont bother with anything else.

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Clark
May 31, 2011, 12:18 AM
Power Pistol for the most power.

3N37 for the most power in low flash.

Capt. Ct.
May 31, 2011, 01:59 AM
Like most of the others I like Unique. I also use W-231. These two powders work well in other common calibers also. Pretty much all that I use today.

bubbacrabb
May 31, 2011, 02:08 AM
Another Unique guy here, load it in 9,45,38,357,44. Im sure there are some better powders out there, but for the simplicity of only needing that Im happy with the target loads I've made in those calibers with Unique. Meters well in my Dillon, Im sure you'll just have to try some out and see what meters well in yours.

GLOOB
May 31, 2011, 02:39 AM
Out of my powders, 9mm is one of those calibers that likes all of them. Unique, HP38, and AutoComp. From my perspective, it doesn't much matter which one, at least with plated bullets. Cast loads seem to smoke a little more with HP38. Maybe it burns a little hotter?

gamestalker
May 31, 2011, 03:37 AM
I use Longshot or HS-6. Those two will deliver some excellent velocity and also fill the case up real good. I like using powders that are difficult, or impossible, to accidentally double charge, and also get me up into the + P + velocities, and both of those powders do just that. They also give me plenty of room to work up without producing high pressure spikes.

tkcomer
May 31, 2011, 08:30 AM
Ramshot's True Blue for me. Looks like dust, meters like water.

ny32182
May 31, 2011, 09:24 AM
My current 147gr match load uses HS6.

I have been wanting to do some experimenting with faster powders. Currently I am working with Unique. Yesterday I found a load with a good average velocity of 875, but my extreme spreads are 50+ FPS over the course of a 15rd string over the chrono. Is this normal? My HS6 loads are more consistent in terms of velocity so far.

I have Titegroup as well, but have not done anything with it so far.

rangerphil
May 31, 2011, 09:41 AM
Universal Clays for me in all my pistol calibers....

sig2009
May 31, 2011, 09:51 AM
WSF,Unique,Bullseye!

mikerault
May 31, 2011, 02:29 PM
HP38 in 9mm, .40, .38.

italy176
May 31, 2011, 03:16 PM
VV 3N37 for high powered 124gr loads (expensive - meters great)

Blue Dot for carbine loads (cheap + up to 15-20% velocity gain vs. pistol velocity - funny enough though, I can achieve VV 3N37 performance w/o issues in the pistol also)

LTR shooter
May 31, 2011, 03:22 PM
I've had good results with 231 with the 115 XTP in my Sig P239.

Hangingrock
May 31, 2011, 03:30 PM
I’ve mainly used W231 and Unique. Of late I’ve been testing W-AutoComp. It appears to have flash suppressor inhibitors. Meters with no problems the charge weight variation is not problematic nor nettlesome in application.

KodiakBeer
May 31, 2011, 04:59 PM
I'm new to reloading 9mm, but I've been using 4 grains of Titegroup. It's cheap and a little goes a long way.

tightgroup tiger
May 31, 2011, 05:20 PM
Don't leave titegroup in your powder measure very long or it will be a perminent resident there. I had to clean it out of mine with a wire barrel brush after only one month. It glued itself fast. I also use titegroup in 9mm at 4.5 gr. and have had good luck with it. As Kodiak Beer stated he uses though, I have found that 4.0 gr is a lot more pleasent to shoot. I am going to try power pistol though. Titegroup heats up my barrels to fast from a fast burn.

Good luck with all these choices.

hvychev77
May 31, 2011, 07:00 PM
right on guys!! thanks for all the replies and info. I guess i have some trial and error to do. i am gonna start woth some unique and some w231 to see which one works best. i have a friend that was a range instructor at several academies so i've got the hook up on some brass for a while!! thanks again...

clutch
May 31, 2011, 07:07 PM
Unique, despite some people saying it is dirty and it meters bad, is an excellent powder to have on hand. I use it for .380, 38, 40, 45 and 9mm. For three of the calibers, I don't even have to change my charge on my Lyman 55 powder measure.

I say this with the provision that you keep loading reasonable and stay away from the right end of the loading data until you have more experience. A decent middle of pack load is just fine for pistol shooting. Doesn't beat you up, doesn't beat the gun up, and it is close enough to full power that you gain skills for self defense.

Clutch

Overkilll0084
May 31, 2011, 07:10 PM
9 mm isn't especially fussy. I've used Bullseye, AA#5, HS-6 & Unique, all with good results.

J_McLeod
May 31, 2011, 10:21 PM
My current 147gr match load uses HS6.

I have been wanting to do some experimenting with faster powders. Currently I am working with Unique. Yesterday I found a load with a good average velocity of 875, but my extreme spreads are 50+ FPS over the course of a 15rd string over the chrono. Is this normal? My HS6 loads are more consistent in terms of velocity so far.

I have Titegroup as well, but have not done anything with it so far.
What are loads are you using with HS-6?

ny32182
June 1, 2011, 09:10 AM
I use 4.8gr HS6 with a 147gr Precision Delta FMJ loaded to just under magazine length. This puts me at an average of about 880fps with an extreme spread of about 30fps, from a G34.

cfullgraf
June 1, 2011, 10:15 AM
Ramshot's True Blue for me. Looks like dust, meters like water.

Another vote for true Blue. I discovered True Blue during the "Great Gun Stuff Rush of 2009" and really liked it.

Unique, Blue Dot and Accurate Arms powders are my alternates for the 9x19.

Walkalong
June 1, 2011, 11:09 AM
9 mm isn't especially fussy
Yep.

Of the "medium" speed powders for close to full/full strength loads with 115 & 124/5 Gr bullets True Blue, Unique, Solo 1250, SR-4756, AA #5, Universal, HS-6, N330, N340, & WSF have all worked well enough for me. Some did a little better for velocity to charge ratio, or cleanliness, or worked better for short barrels (3"), or long barrels (16") or both short and long barrels, but they all worked acceptably well overall.

I just shot some 115's over 6.3 Grs of True Blue the other day. Did just fine. :)

TheCracker
June 1, 2011, 06:07 PM
Universal clays!! Meters perfectly, unique doesn't and burns very clean, unique doesn't.
The reason I compare it to unique is they are right next to each other on the burn chart so they have the same applications.

I've excellent results with jhp, lrn and fmj in 9mm. It also gets fabulous accuracy and close to factory performance out of my 44 mag with a 4" barrel.

steveumd
June 1, 2011, 06:36 PM
I like Unique, but am willing to try something cleaner with the same accuracy. Anyone have such a load?

Strykervet
June 1, 2011, 06:54 PM
Viht 3N37, hands down. I load 5.6gr. behind a Rainier plated 124gr. RN for my target loads, and out of my G17L it will shoot nice tight little groups or one ragged hole depending on distance. Little to no flash, consistent, etc. I like it way better than the others I have tried (but those seem to be pretty popular considering these posts).

That said, I like Viht powders period, and tend to use them for most of my pistol rounds, save 10mm where I use 800X and Blue Dot. The Viht used to cost more, but now it seems the other brands cost more (at least here) which makes the Viht only marginally more expensive.

I weigh each charge, very time consuming, but if you use a disc or charge thrower and depend on volumetric metering, the 3N37 is hard to beat. Viht cylindrical powder is very uniform, and I use the trickler less with this powder than any other formed pistol powder (800X and Blue Dot measure the worse, especially 800X).

Strykervet
June 1, 2011, 06:57 PM
Oh yeah, I haven't used N340 for 9mm, I have it and use it for .40 and .45, but I can say it would meter the same as 3N37 as it looks identical. I just haven't bothered working up another load for 9mm as the 3N37 was it once I tried it.

Walkalong
June 1, 2011, 07:01 PM
N340 is great with jacketed or plated 124/5 Gr bullets in 9MM. 3N37 should meter better because it is finer, like N310. I have some but have not tried it yet, except in .32 Long.

TheCracker
June 1, 2011, 07:08 PM
I like Unique, but am willing to try something cleaner with the same accuracy. Anyone have such a load?

I had a clerk a cabelas tell me about Universal Clays when i could not find any Unique during the great ammo/component rush of 2009. I bought a lb and have never looked back. (as of now I've gone through about 4 lbs.

You will love universal clays if you like unique. 4.8g is super accurate and CLEAN in my 92fs and Ruger SR9c. I use a precision delta fmj seated to 1.155 and a rem jhp seated to 1.12. They shoot good in both guns.

The rem HP shoots at 1119fps out of the sr9c but I've never chronograghed it out of the 92f.

If you happen to use the lee auto disk the .53 disk is what I use for 9mm and it is spot on since it is a small flake powder.

Hope that helps!

CZ57
June 1, 2011, 08:21 PM
A lower cost alternative to 3N37 and a powder that's treated for low flash is WWW.ramshot.com Silhouette. Similar to HS-6 and WSF.;)

PO2Hammer
June 2, 2011, 12:45 AM
I've used Universal, HS-6, SR 7625 (my personal favorite) and Titegroup with good results. Universal and Titegroup meter well, HS-6 and SR 7625 meter exceptionally well in my Redding 10X.

RidgwayCO
June 2, 2011, 11:11 AM
If you're looking for reloading data for Silhouette, then you can also use data for WAP (Winchester Action Pistol). According to Ramshot, WAP and Silhouette are the same powder.

gamestalker
June 2, 2011, 05:15 PM
HS-6 and Longshot are the only powders I use for this application. I load for near maximum velocity and in the upper operating pressure range. I also like a good dense load to help eliminate possibility of an accidental double charge. And regarding how it meters, I don't use a volmetric charging method, beam scale weighted every round.

CZ57
June 2, 2011, 07:49 PM
[/QUOTE] If you're looking for reloading data for Silhouette, then you can also use data for WAP (Winchester Action Pistol). According to Ramshot, WAP and Silhouette are the same powder.[/QUOTE]

Ramshot Silhouette = WAP and at their website www.ramshot.com there is plenty of data including cast lead and plated bullet loads in 9mm.;)

918v
June 3, 2011, 01:06 AM
N340 is beter than Unique in the 9mm.

tekarra
June 3, 2011, 08:12 PM
I have been using 700X for a long time with good results.

Walkalong
June 3, 2011, 08:52 PM
It does work well for light loads.

Peter M. Eick
June 4, 2011, 05:18 PM
Unique, Power Pistol (which is hard to find around here)

1SOW
June 4, 2011, 10:52 PM
I'm not trying to be rude or say Unique isn't a great powder, BUT Unique & larger flake powders don't meter easily/accurately out of the LEE disc powder system especially in the lower pistol load ranges--smaller disc holes.

918v
June 4, 2011, 11:48 PM
Yeah...

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