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einats
January 15, 2004, 01:33 PM
Help ! I do a paper paper about the right to carry guns on a democratic country.

I need first criterions of people who can get permit to carry a personal gun in the USA and in Europe.

For example, in Israel, only if you were an oficer in the army or you live in
the occupied land, or you are a bus driver , or you deal with daimonds, you can have a gun.

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Chuck Jennings
January 15, 2004, 01:37 PM
The carry laws in the United States differ greatly from state to state. A good resource for applicable rules can be found at:

http://www.packing.org/

MicroBalrog
January 15, 2004, 01:52 PM
Einat: You must understand that US Federal Law does not mention the carry of guns, only their possession.

As far as I understand, under Federal law nobody needs a license to possess firearms (except machineguns and such). Everybody over age 18 (except convicted felons and the insane) can buy rifles and shotguns, and over 21 you can also buy handguns. In two states (Alaska and Vermont) no license is need to carry concealed weapons. In most other states, only carrying a weapon concealed requires a license, while open carry does not.

MicroBalrog
January 15, 2004, 02:45 PM
You might find this of interest (http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000013.html)

This one is full of statistics (http://www.keepandbeararms.com/downloads/GunFacts_v3.2.pdf)

A historian's view (http://ls.wustl.edu/WULQ/75-3/753-4.html)


It is often pointed out how different the contemporary world is from the one in which Madison and Jefferson lived. In those days what passed for tyranny was "send[ing] hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance," "cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the World," and calling "together Legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant," and other such complaints. Even with the example of the French Revolution before them, Madison and Jefferson could hardly have imagined in detail the characteristic perils of the twentieth century. But they certainly understood the crux of the problem. After all, more than two thousand years earlier, in 416 B.C., the Athenians put the population of Melos to the sword, exempting only those deemed suitable for sale as slaves. The lesson Thucydides drew from this incident remains persuasive today: "The strong do what they will, the weak endure what they must." The Founders of American democracy saw the persistence of this Thucydidean reality. They rejected the concept of a state monopoly of armed power--"the most dangerous of all monopolies," according to Madison--in favor of "the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation."

MicroBalrog
January 15, 2004, 03:05 PM
http://www.a-human-right.com/introduction.html

Dave Markowitz
January 15, 2004, 03:12 PM
As far as I understand, under Federal law nobody needs a license to possess firearms (except machineguns and such).

Actually, there's no license, but you do have to fill out extra paperwork that needs to be signed by your local law enfocement agency, and then submitted to BATFE for approval. There is also a $200 transfer tax that must be paid when you purchase a machinegun, short-barrelled rifle or shotgun, or destructive device.

We have some Class III dealers (machineguns and such) on this board. Perhaps one can add all the gory details to this thread.

MicroBalrog
January 15, 2004, 03:16 PM
It will be probably sufficient to say it's easier to legally get a permit for an RPG-7 in the US than for a handgun in Israel.

Snowdog
January 16, 2004, 09:30 AM
And here I was thinking it was easy as pie to (legally) purchase and carry a pistol in Israel.
I get a lot out of these forums.

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