Should I or SHOULDN'T I ???


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C5rider
June 3, 2011, 06:15 PM
That's a question that I've been asking myself each time the topic of reloading comes up. I know that no one on this forum can make that decision for me but, with the broad base of knowledge that we've got here, I'm openly inviting those who know to chime in.

I don't shoot ALOT but I can go through a couple of boxes of ammo during a range visit (usually once or twice a month). I shoot 9mm and 38 and 357 Magnums. I also have a 25 Krag that I would like to shoot more but, you can't just go out and buy 25 Krag ammo. My thinking is that if I were to reload, I could shoot more 357 Mags and my 25 Krag. I doubt that I'd reload the 9mm since I can get them pretty cheap already. I already have the dies for the 25 Krag (my dad used to reload but sold all his equipment years ago) so I'd just need to purchase the 357 stuff. It would take a little bit of time to reload and dad would surely help me out to get the hang of it. My main concern would be with the amount of shooting that I do, would I be able to make up the initial cost of the press and other stuff with the limited amount of shooting that I do?

If I were to shoot thousands of rounds, the equipment would pay for itself rather quickly, but, for the occasional shooter like me, would it be financially feasible/smart? My cousin reloads and currently has my 25 Krag dies. He said he could reload some for me but, he lives 1100 miles away and I don't want to bother him with it as well.

I'm interested in anyone's experiences. :confused:

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bfoosh006
June 3, 2011, 06:25 PM
Danger Wil Robinson Danger !!!

Yes, you can make up the difference in savings.... but reloading is a bottomless money pit for some... ( me..wink.. ) you can help save money, by picking a good load and sticking with it. ( find one from the Sierra Reloading Manual.. ) One powder, one bullet, one primer ... per cartridge. And then adjusting its overall length , its powder charge, etc and finding its sweet spot for your firearm. If you start goin' out and buying all the latest, greatest components... you'll spend more on that stuff than you would on factory ammo. So I guess I'm sayin' ... buy wisely.

That said, I love reloading. I can make exactly what I want, tailor fit for my firearm. Save all your brass regardless of your choice... you may want it years from now.

Edit. If you are young, start now. You'll have more time to devote to the reloading experience.

bubbacrabb
June 3, 2011, 06:38 PM
I dont know your financial status. So that I cant make a statement on that. I know I blow a ton of money on bs with guns. But I work a lot of overtime to make all that. I keep seperate funds. A living fund, a very important savings fun which takes almost 40% of my check, and emergency fund, and finally a fund that is for guns/reloading that is mostly made by overtime worked. I shoot more than I ever have because of reloading. I probably spend the same amount, but now I shoot a ton more. I also cast my own boolits now which aside from the time I make 1000 rounds of pistol ammo for unbelievably low cost to me. Its almost theraputic to me to do this type of work. After a long day at work, I enjoy reloading some bullets I cast myself. It might sound weird, but anymore I almost enjoy reloading almost as much as I do shooting. I dont know how many thousands of rounds I have now, but its a lot. Might come in handy some day.

Steve Koski
June 3, 2011, 06:50 PM
Yep, you'll have more fun too.

Koski

C5rider
June 3, 2011, 07:01 PM
All very good responses and thank you. I've built up a nice safe o' guns. Enough for about anything that I might need (carry, plinking, paper cutting, etc) and most of them were bought used. I've not seen any appealing options in the used market for reloading but maybe there's something in my future. I don't need the biggest and the best, just something that works for me. Some of the dies that I've seen so far were a little too rusty for my tastes. is this common? Does it matter? If I could save a few bucks up front, that would surely help make my decision easier. I'm going to keep looking, and thinking, and trying to figure out if I should, or shouldn't.

Keep those responses coming and help me make an informed decision!

dwhite
June 3, 2011, 07:30 PM
I go through a couple hundred rounds a month of .40, 38 Special, and 30-06. I reload because I come from cheap Scottish blood.

I have a Lee Hand press which is more than adequate for the volumes I need. I can do about 60 rounds an hour without great effort. Lead bullets meet most of my needs so that's what goes in the case.

Bfoosh is right, find a bullet, primer powder that works well for your loads and stick with it. Buy powder in 4 lb containers. Buy bullets and primers in bulk also.

It's a great hobby too. You'll have fun with it. Start cheap and improve your gear as your demands require.

All the Best,
D. White

bluetopper
June 3, 2011, 08:26 PM
The satisfaction in being able to do so anytime you want to make some more ammo.......you can't put a price on.

rsrocket1
June 3, 2011, 08:27 PM
3 cents for the primer and about a penny for the pistol powder, those are fairly fixed costs (+/- a few percent for bulk buys). The projectile is the big variable. If you buy premium bullets, they can go for as much as 20 cents a piece, good lead bullets are about 6-8 cents each. With minimum casting equipment, you can get by at about 1 cent each or free if you scrounge up your own lead. So even 9mm can be as low as 4 cents a shot. That's close to 22lr cost. If you are creative, you can find ways to cast very cheaply and still make quality bullets.

ranger335v
June 3, 2011, 10:09 PM
I started reloading in '65 for the same reasons and situation as you. My volume got bigger fairly quickly but even if I had stayed small I would surely have reached the 'break even' point fairly soon.

Perhaps the best suggestion I could give you is to not over spend for equipment. Not only is the expensive stuff a LOT more costly than it need be but the quality of ammo you can produce be no better than expensive tools can make. And, with a minimum of care and a little lube in the right places, the least costly dies and presses will last a LOONNG time!

I suggest you look carefully at Lee's Classic Turret press, it's all steel/iron and is unique among turret presses in that it has an auto-indexing system that makes reloading MUCH faster than a single stage. The turret heads are easy to change in seconds and cost so little it's practicle to have one set up with dies for each cartridge you reload; that can be a real time saver for a smallish volume loader doing multipule cartridges!

Lee's dies load ammo as well as anyone elses and most of their sets include a shell holder, something others will charge you $7-9 for. Lee's adjustable powder measure works about as well as any and, for coarse rifle powders, better than most.

Disregard anything 'digital'; conventional scales and powder measures are easy to use and work quite fast if you position them properly and develop a rythum.

RandyP
June 3, 2011, 10:24 PM
+1 on the Lee Classic 4-hole turret. Complete Kits less dies are widely available.

150-175 rounds per hour output, not a large initial investment and it will handle your pistol and rifle calibers.

Hondo 60
June 4, 2011, 12:35 AM
Savings??? We don't need no stinkin' savings!! LOL

Seriously, I shoot a LOT more because I reload.
I might tinker with a recipe trying to get that imaginery one hole group at 50 yards.
So after adjusting the recipe I'll go to the range.
Well as long as I'm there, I might as well make it worth while.
So I take along 2 or 3 other guns....

But I really enjoy it!
A day with out reloading just seems a little off.

ArchAngelCD
June 4, 2011, 01:51 AM
Most .357 Magnum ammo will cost you ~$30/box. If you shoot 2 boxes at the range twice a month that's a retail cost of $120. You can reload 4 boxes of .357 Magnums for $32, that's a saving of $88 a month. At that rate you will pay for a Lee Classic turret press setup in 3 to 4 months not counting the fact you will be able to shoot your Krag.

Add in the .38 Special and 9mm ammo and you will probably recoup your initial cost in 3 months or less. Don't forget, you are also going to shoot more accurate ammo than you can buy.

gamestalker
June 4, 2011, 02:06 AM
Your absolutely correct, we can't make that decision for you. However, with a compiled base of opinions, we can hopefully help you to make an informed decision based on varying experience.
I know I'm not be any stretch the one of few with approximately 3 decades of reloading experience, but with as much importance are those who have less than 10 years at the bench. With that said, you can be fairly sure the opinions you'll get are going to be well seasoned, and as well, are going to contain a vast degreee of methods and purpose.
My method is by single stage and as are the verious steps of the process I utilize. And regarding my purpose, I focus my loading on how well I can build a round to obtain the maximum potential of a given cartridge from the hardware being employed. I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of hand loaders are very economic minded to the extent that most of what they load is focussed on that aspect. There is certainly nothing wrong with trying to increase the yield. But on the other hand, I started reloading for reasons that didn't include economics. I don't complain when I get a good deal on components, I'm not wealthy so I can appreciate a good deal. I also don't shoot thousands of rounds per month though. If I was involved in a shooting the extent it required me to load more than what can be comfortably accomplished on a single stage press I'm certain beyond a doubt I would utilize one of the many high quality automated systems that are commonly used by many. In fact, I would be willing to bet that I'm probably of the minority in this regard.
So to sum it all up from my point of view is the questions you need to ask yourself, as I sumerized above. Economics, how much do you shoot or plan to shoot, the general purpose for wanting to load your own such as bench rest or other competitive events, hunting, personal pleasure in the quest for optimum performing ammunition, and so on. Just as important is initial investment. Getting started in any respect is going to be some what costly. Lee does make an inexpensive reloading set up that can save a group of money if all your wanting is the bare minimum in terms of quality and convenience. But based on your post I would think a decent single stage press and the necessary tools of the trade would probably do just fine. If your just wanting to load 50 or 100 rounds per session a single stage set up will meet your needs and at the same time will provide you with everything you need to load serious high quality custom ammunition, which is my primary purpose.
Good luck with what ever you decide to do and how you decide to go about it.
Welcome to The High Road!

RandyP
June 4, 2011, 09:54 AM
The good news is that there is a way for everyone at all budget levels to particpate in this hobby. From the $30 Lee Loader (what it with a mallet) thru the $90 Lee Anniv complete single stage kit, the $250 Lee Loadmaster progressive full setup with dies, on up to the $1000+ Dillon 650 and 1050 manufacturing centers.

IMHO none of the manufacturers out there make 'junk'. RCBS, Hornady etc are also great machines.

If you shoot only a box of ammo every couple months? Reloading may not fill a 'need' though it is still fun to learn a new skill.

Lost Sheep
June 4, 2011, 07:16 PM
(edited for brevity)
It would take a little bit of time to reload and dad would surely help me out to get the hang of it. My main concern would be with the amount of shooting that I do, would I be able to make up the initial cost of the press and other stuff with the limited amount of shooting that I do?

If I were to shoot thousands of rounds, the equipment would pay for itself rather quickly, but, for the occasional shooter like me, would it be financially feasible/smart?
Depending on how old you are (and how much longer you will continue shooting and loading), you probably have plenty enough time for the equipment to pay for itself.

I will spare you the calculations, but the price of 20 boxes (1,000 rounds) of mixed .357 and 38 special ammunition will get you a pretty darned good loading setup and enough consumables to make those same 1,000 rounds.

Spending quality time with your Dad, sharing a hobby? Priceless.

Lost Sheep

jgiehl
June 5, 2011, 04:50 AM
I don't shoot a ton myself. Truth be told I've only shot twice this year. But I reload for the flexibility so that way I'm not "having to conform" to what everyone else has to shoot, so to speak. Plus it's fun.

P-32
June 5, 2011, 09:40 PM
I got into reloading when the wife suggested it after complaining about Winchester Silver Tip '06 costing $12.50 for box of 20 when I was sighting in my scope.

I found a load for the '06 no factory ammo could beat group wise. (Sub MOA)

The biggest thing is when reloading, you are your own QC. If details are something that give you a hard time then reloading might not be for you.

olafhardtB
June 5, 2011, 10:38 PM
I started reloading after the Lord came to me in a dream and told me if I ever ran out of ammo I would die. First I bought a brick of 22 lr. I consider handloading a totally different hobby from shooting. I know I can buy eggs for less than I spend on my chickens. I am not a good gardener and could get better produce cheaper at local markets but l garden anyway. The most expensive fruit I have ever eaten came out of my orchard. I love to reload and cast at my rate and my loads. I load less than max loads with Lee dippers on a single stage press and It enriches my life.

Lost Sheep
June 5, 2011, 11:12 PM
I started reloading after the Lord came to me in a dream and told me if I ever ran out of ammo I would die. First I bought a brick of 22 lr. I consider handloading a totally different hobby from shooting. I know I can buy eggs for less than I spend on my chickens. I am not a good gardener and could get better produce cheaper at local markets but l garden anyway. The most expensive fruit I have ever eaten came out of my orchard. I love to reload and cast at my rate and my loads. I load less than max loads with Lee dippers on a single stage press and It enriches my life.
Well put, olafhardtB. Your post sounds like a great signature line:
The fish I catch might cost more than the fish I buy;
The veggies I grow might cost more than the those I buy;
The ammunition I shoot might cost more than retail;
Why do I fish, garden and handload?
If you have to ask why, you probably won't understand; these activities enrich my life.

Actually, to tell the truth, I do calculate the cost of my ammunition, fish and zuccini. I even include the dollar value of my time. If you have to ask why, you probably won't understand. Running the numbers satisfies my curiosity. If including my time in the cost of my handloads makes them appear to cost more than store-bought, so be it. I don't care. If it doesn't enrich me, it, at least, enriches my life.

Thanks for the food for thought, olafhardtB.

Lost Sheep

bentongunclub
June 7, 2011, 11:45 PM
For me handloading is all about finding an accurate and comfortable load. Once you have that nailed down then you can make all you want any time you want.

capreppy
June 8, 2011, 01:04 AM
For me handloading is all about finding an accurate and comfortable load. Once you have that nailed down then you can make all you want any time you want.
This is how I have operated. I wanted more range time to increase my comfort with my weapons of choice.

Once I found a round that was accurate, had a reduced recoil, and was cheap, I stuck with it. I'll build several thousand of that load. Later when I have time, sure I'll experiment, but time isn't something I have a lot of and reloading although relaxing and enjoyable is a means to an end (shooting more frequently for a lower cost).

raddiver
June 9, 2011, 06:48 AM
I will add this....
while im not the frugal when it comes to sourcing my components, i can still generally come in under what i could by them off the shelf for. Sometimes i break even, or im over.
But the knowledge to be able to make ammo, the enjoyment that comes from the process, etc make it worth it.
I've probably got about 2K in my reloading setup. Do i care when im going to break even? Not really. I'll be in the hobby for a long time. I know over the course of my lifetime it will pay itself off a few times over.

USSR
June 9, 2011, 08:54 AM
"I've spent most my money on guns, molds, and reloading supplies, the rest I just wasted".

Elmer Keith

C5rider
May 19, 2012, 10:31 AM
Well, I decided I should.

I got a Lee single stage press kit last Christmas and my dad came over and gave me a bunch of pointers to get started. I mentioned to a friend of mine that I started reloading and wanted to get some dies for 9mm, 357/38 and 45. His reply, don't go BUY em! Borrow mine! He had several dies that he hadn't used in years. He had them packed away in boxes. I've been using them, along with some others that I picked up along the way. I've gone through my first lb of Universal powder (at 4gr a pop. Figure out how many rounds THAT is!) and looking at buying more. I know there are other powders out there that folks like, but Universal has worked for me in the 38/357, 45 and 9mm. Will most likely get a 2nd lb along with some 4064 IMR for the 25 Krag. I've got about 100 cartridges for the Krag and getting ready to tackle annealing the brass before loading.

I've started forming my own process for loading and while it isn't highly productive, that's okay. It's got the necessary checks and balances to help prevent a double charge. Not sure that I've reached the ultimate accuracy on each load yet, but it's enough to ring a 18-inch gong at 117 yards in my 357. I'm okay with that.

Overall, it's been fun, it gets me out in the shed for a little "alone time" and, it's opened up some new avenues for me. I no longer look at those 45 Colt guns wondering how I'd ever feed them! :D

On the down side. I've noticed that I walk around the local ranges with my head down-- looking for brass! I feel like the kid in the lunch room --- "uh, you gonna eat that?" ;)

wolfe
May 19, 2012, 11:01 AM
I don't shoot a lot either but I enjoy reloading and also like knowing that I have rounds available to shoot whenever I want to go, regardless of time of day or day of the week.

It is a nice hobby and good stress reliever.

Get the Lee classic turret, you won't be disappointed

blarby
May 19, 2012, 11:03 AM
Yes.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=18835

ArchAngelCD
May 19, 2012, 03:54 PM
Overall, it's been fun, it gets me out in the shed for a little "alone time" and, it's opened up some new avenues for me. I no longer look at those 45 Colt guns wondering how I'd ever feed them! :D
That right there is a good reason to reload. Now nothing is out of the question...

I'm glad everything worked out for you. Sounds like you are well on your way. I'm sure picking your dad's brain helped a lot too...

gamestalker
May 19, 2012, 04:16 PM
Since I reload for reasons not related to economics, for me the choice is simple. But even if economics were my primary cause, there is a significant amount of savings to be realized when loading for bottle neck cartridges and some pistol cartridges, .357 mag included.

Your just going to have to decide if the time and effort to reload is worth your while. If you know someone that has a single stage set up that would take you through the entire reloading process for bottle neck cartridge, it would give you a much better idea of whether this is something for you. It's not a hobby that everyone enjoys.
GS

Lost Sheep
May 19, 2012, 04:53 PM
On the down side. I've noticed that I walk around the local ranges with my head down-- looking for brass! I feel like the kid in the lunch room --- "uh, you gonna eat that?" ;)
You have only been at it for a year. You'll get over it.

Besides, it allows you to practice your "people skills".

The people you approach are most likely shooting something you have in your stable, so you could load up some "exotic" loads and offer to let them shoot your gun with 1) ultra-light loads (example: My friend has a 500 S&W, but the first loads we created for it were 350 grain rounds that clocked 700 fps using Trail Boss powder-a hoot to shoot and you could watch them go downrange if you have quick eyes) 2) tracer rounds (I have never done this, but only because I don't know were to get any tracer bullets.) 3) shotshell rounds. etc

You get the idea.

"Hi, I'm C5Rider. I notice you are shooting xx out of your xxxxxxx. Nice gun. Nice grouping. I reload for that cartridge. You want to try one of THESE out of my gun? By the way, do you keep your brass?

Or you could invest in a chronograph and offer to let them clock their factory ammo. If you do this, make sure your chronograph is armored. Nothing douses a potential friendship like putting a bullet into the other's chronograph.

You'll get over the shyness.

Lost Sheep

Lost Sheep
May 19, 2012, 05:08 PM
(edited for brevity)
I've started forming my own process for loading and while it isn't highly productive, that's okay. It's got the necessary checks and balances to help prevent a double charge.
Congratulations on taking the plunge.

For me, when loading batch process (on a single stage press), the secret to keeping my algorithm orderly is the use of two loading blocks set on either side of the press (or powder measure or inspection light, whatever).

All the brass that has passed the process is in the block on the "Finished" side

All the brass that is yet to be done is on the "Unfinished" side.

"Finished" and "Unfinished" can be as simple as left and right or using a spring clips with the words engraved on them.

When charging cases with powder, they all go in the "Unfinished" block, primer-end up.

Good idea you have, putting thought into designing your process (loading algorithm). I hope my hint helps.

Lost Sheep

Friendly, Don't Fire!
May 19, 2012, 06:54 PM
I agree with everyone's statements.
I reloaded for many years, even went from single stage to progressive, shooting several nights a week, loading 600 .357 Mag and .44 Mag (an hour per 600 batch, once everything was set up and the cases all trimmed).

I kind of lost interest in guns, hunting, shooting, reloading, et al, around 1995. I took up a totally different hobby, one which meant I needed to sell most of my guns, ammo, and all of my reloading equipment.

Fast forward about twelve years, and around 2007, I realized I wanted to shoot again. I still had my extremely accurate rifle and saw that I would need to start loading ammo again, IF I wanted to maintain the tack-driving load I originally worked up nearly 25 years prior! The pills were still available, as were all the components.

So, I decided that I would get back into reloading, not progressive, just single stage. I ended up basically duplicating the first setup I had, all RCBS Components and all Forster Trim Products. Since I had been around the block with this a couple of times already, all I needed to do was open an account at MidwayUSA and start ordering things. First I got the main components, then I slowly built up my bench to the point where I finally needed a bunch of small components (pilots, dedicated crimp dies for everything I load, nice Frankford Arsenal Reloading Trays (four for each of the calibers I load). I think the last thing which was the "finishing-touch" was the RCBS Small Micrometer Adjustment for my RCBS Powder Measure.

Funny thing, when I look back at what my Micrometer settings were before for a given load, this one happened to be set up exactly the same! I found that "mic powder at 289" threw the exact same charge than it did over 20 years ago, with a different measure and different micrometer!

Anymore, I don't shoot often, so I don't need to reload often. I keep my basement dry and heated in the winter, and a dehumidifier runs all summer at the first sign of dripping condensation on my main copper 3/4" incoming water pipe from my 220' submersible well pump (which means that is cold water coming in).

I will most likely have all this reloading stuff now until I die. I don't plan to buy any more guns, and am happy as a clam at the guns I do have!

I guess I am saying all this to illustrate that one does not need to be at the range every week (or every month, for that matter) to enjoy reloading, be a good reloader, and save money whenever you do shoot! Hey, you just might also make a friend who might want to get into reloading, then you can be his/her mentor in showing them all the nice things about "rolling your own!";)

ranger335v
May 19, 2012, 09:16 PM
"Should I or SHOULDN'T I ??? "

Yes.

BYJO4
May 19, 2012, 09:27 PM
As someone else said, a standard box of 100 factory rounds will cost $30 or more. I can load 100 rounds for $9 using LSWC so it doesn't take too long to recover your investment. Plus, reloading is a great hobby and allows you to make better ammo for less money.

Lost Sheep
May 19, 2012, 10:09 PM
Since the thread has been revived, I submit these thoughts for anyone debating with themselves over the question:

Why reload?

Let me count the ways:

Economy: Depending on what cartridges you are reloading (and whether or not you want to count your time and the up-front equipment costs) you can save anywhere from just a little to 80% or more of your ammo costs. (9mm is very close to no savings. 500 S&W, my friend's ammo costs are $0.75 per round, factory loaded ammo is $3.00 each for comparable ammo. More exotic calibers (especially rifle calibers) can save even more. Some rounds are not even available on a regular basis at any price.

Quality: Ammo you craft yourself can be tuned to your firearms particular characteristics. Handloaders for rifles quite often find some individual guns have quite striking differences in group size when shooting tuned ammunition.

Knowledge: As you study reloading, you will, perforce, also study internal ballistics. The study of internal ballistics leads into the study of how your firearm works.

Customization: Ammo you load yourself can be tuned to your particular needs. My friend with the 500 S&W loads full power loads and "powder puff" loads that clock 350 grain slugs a little under 800 feet per second. I know that's more than a G.I. 45 ACP's power and momentum, but they shoot like 22 rimfire in that big, heavy gun. Great for fun, familiarization, training and letting the curious bystander go for a "test drive" with a super-light load, a medium load, a heavy load and, if they are still game one of the big boomers. This tends to avoid the "rear sight in the forehead" mark.

Satisfaction: Punching small bunches of small, medium or large holes in paper or bringing down a game or food animal with ammunition you crafted yourself has a good deal of satisfaction. Same reason I prefer to make my own biscuits instead of store-bought.

Smug satisfaction: When the ammo shelves are bare during a market or political scare, loaders are demonstrably less affected by the shortages. A couple of pounds of powder, a thousand primers and bullets (or few pounds of lead) and a hundred cartridge cases wouldn't fill a small book carton, but lets the loader know he can shoot while price-gougers take advantage of non-loaders.

Self-satisfaction: The repetitive, calm, attentive concentration of the reloading activities is often found to be so much fun as to bring to the shooter's mind the question, "Do I reload so I can shoot shoot or do I shoot so I can reload?". Some find loading to be as satisfying a hobby as shooting or fly-tying or many other hobbies.

The more fanatical among us combine a couple of the features I have mentioned and, instead of shooting for bullseye accuracy at the range, reload in a search for the "magic load" that achieves perfection in a given rifle. Then, they move on to the next target, which is another rifle and another tuned load. But you do have to be at least a little fanatical to even get it. It is the hunt they seek, for they enjoy the quest more than the goal.


I am sure there are many other reasons, but these are the main ones I can think of.

Lost Sheep

C5rider
May 19, 2012, 11:19 PM
Thanks for the responses!

It has been a good ride so far. One thing that it has also helped me with is a better understanding of different cartridges and performance (pressures, grains of bullet, etc. )

i've even had fun delving into the various loads and getting my auto-feeders to be reliable. Since getting into shooting again (first started VERY young and then got out of it for a while) I've been more in depth in gun design and reloading. I had relatives reload for me (dad, uncle, etc) in the past. Now, I'm goin deep into my own guns and loads. Just another aspect of knowledge that also helps keep the costs down. Just this year, I've learned more about reloading, revolvers and tweaking my 1911s than I had all the years before. And now, my oldest son is going to the range with me.

In that aspect, it's been a good year. :cool:

4895
May 19, 2012, 11:32 PM
I love it, shoot a lot more, and have improved my shooting ability because of the extra "trigger time" offered by reloading.

Mac Sidewinder
May 19, 2012, 11:33 PM
It's pretty cool that you got back into reloading after that long of a break. But I'm more impressed that you were able to find a thread that you started almost a year ago! I can't seem to find my keys most days.

Mac

James2
May 20, 2012, 01:53 AM
Good for you! I think you will enjoy it. I know I sure have. I started loading in 1957. I was a junior in high school. This hobby has allowed me to do a lot of shooting that I could not have afforded otherwise. I also cast bullets for handguns. It has been a great hobby. I hope you enjoy it for as many years as I have. :)

C5rider
May 20, 2012, 09:21 AM
But I'm more impressed that you were able to find a thread that you started almost a year ago! I can't seem to find my keys most days.

I LOL on that one. You're not alone, trust me. :D

Gtimothy
May 20, 2012, 12:47 PM
Friendly, Don't Fire! did pretty much what I did...I also switched hobbies and now I'm in the middle of replacing all of the reloading equipment I sold to fund it! At least I didn't sell off my guns! :neener:

I'm back to reloading for all of the guns I have in my safe and will never sell my presses or dies again! I have a progressive press that I use for cranking out bulk pistol rounds and a turret press for rifle loads. I highly recommend the turret press with a disk for each set of dies. Once your dies are adjusted properly, all you have to do is change the disc to change to a different caliber. No more time spent fiddling with things to get back to your pet load!

JEB
May 21, 2012, 12:11 AM
i started reloading a couple years ago and man, do i wish i had started sooner! i dont really shoot all THAT much but i love the freedom from factory ammo and the ability to taylor my loads to my own specific needs.

A Pause for the Coz
May 21, 2012, 01:16 AM
Danger Will Robinson
Yup I agree with that.

If your not carefull you will go from this:

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To this:

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But it is a fun addiction. I cant say I have saved a dime yet.
But you will be amazed at how your 50 round trip to the range turns into a 500 round trip to the range.:D

Bowfishrp
May 23, 2012, 07:10 PM
I started out reloading to save money....yeah it does save money because I reload for myself, my wife, 2 kids, and my brother...oh and occasionally my Dad. I am amazed at how much ammo we go through at the range but with all of us there for a few hours it certainly goes fast!
If you figure up how much the press is (and I recommend a hornady or dillon) and dies and scale and all the other little things that you really do need, it can add up to a lot. Then figure up how much it would cost to reload 1000 rounds of something and compare that to buying 1000 factory rounds. Figure the savings and then how many rounds it would take to at least break even.
Say .45 acp....$25 primers, $25 powder (titegroup will load about 5000 rounds per pound), brass at ~$60 for range pickups (which can be reused over and over), then bullets at about $120 depending on style brand and type. You might be looking around $230 for your first load. Take off the brass and powder for the next 1000 and it might be closer to $150/1000.
I just found ammo man had 45acp for $389 per 1000. Saving half or better per thousand.

Rifle rounds are going to be a lot higher so I would think in terms of per 100 or maybe per 200 because powder wont go very far with .308 or 30-06.

The point of my rambling is that yes, you CAN save money. I did not mention TIME because you will need a lot of it and if you value your time then forget reloading until you have a lot more free time. Its not something you can do quickly unless you have been doing it a long time. I did not get into reloading for anything other than saving money and it became a hobby for me. Didnt plan it that way just really enjoy it. Even had thoughts of selling my airboat so I can buy more guns and reload more....WTH is wrong with me!
Good luck either way.

dmazur
May 23, 2012, 08:04 PM
Happy to hear it worked for you.

I'm in the "It's satisfying to make your own" camp, kind of like tying flies.

I'm finally getting to the point where the flies I tie look about the same as factory flies. And they last a lot longer than the cheap ones.

The "learning curve" for reloading wasn't as steep, so I felt there was some kind of payoff almost immediately, in terms of making ammo that suited my rifles / pistols.

It's not just about saving money. :)

JLDickmon
May 24, 2012, 04:57 PM
Danger Wil Robinson Danger !!!

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had to do it..

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