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cmdc
June 4, 2011, 01:22 PM
Anyone have one or have experience with them?

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Limey46
June 4, 2011, 09:11 PM
I had an Alexander Arms gun for a while and liked it a lot. It functioned perfectly and was more than adequately accurate. Recoil was as advertised, about like shooting 00 buckshot in a 12-gauge autoloader, somewhat milder with the factory compensator on the gun. I never got into reloading for the caliber, so my only experience was with Alexander Arms branded ammo, about which I have nothing bad to say: it was consistent, high-quality stuff. The three hogs I shot with it just hated it. What people say about the caliber is true, I think: at short-to-moderate ranges it's very effective indeed, especially against things with thick skin. Think of it as a more modern, meaner 45-70.

I traded mine off in one of those fits of must-have-a-new-toy madness, and regretted it immediately. I'll get another some day.

Lloyd Smale
June 5, 2011, 08:15 AM
I really like mine. With a scope mounted it will shoot renieer solids into an inch at 100 yards and there hps into about an 1 1/4. Loaded with kelly shlepps punch bullets in my wifes hands it took a 1600lb cow water buffalo.

cmdc
June 5, 2011, 11:33 AM
Holy Schnike! Your wife shot a 1600 lbs water buffalo with it? I gotta get me one of those! The Beowulf that is, not your wife. LOL

Seriously though, I have read that it is a hog-killing machine, but I had no idea it was powerful enough to take really big critters. Which AA upper did/do you have? I just took delivery of an AA Entry Rifle in 6.5 Grendel, and think I'll order a 50 Beowulf upper.

The-King-Omega
June 17, 2011, 02:09 PM
ive been looking at getting one.... but im kinda worried about the bullets... will they always be available??? other than that they look and shoot freakin awesome....i bet it will take down any critter you put in front of it.

Double Naught Spy
June 17, 2011, 02:30 PM
The ballistics are akin to a .45-70. So if you don't need the semi-auto feature, you can get comparable ballistics in a much less expensive package with a lot more ammunition alternatives that are much more wildly available.

Don't get me wrong. I won't a .50 Beo as well, but just can't justify it since I have the .45-70 already.

TonyAngel
June 17, 2011, 03:16 PM
The one I had ran good. They way it was supposed to anyway. It never gave me any trouble. I did kill two or three Eotechs trying to use them with the upper though.

dprice3844444
June 17, 2011, 03:32 PM
delisle carbine in 50 beowulf?

TIMC
June 17, 2011, 03:50 PM
I have one that I like a lot! Mine has never had factory ammo in it since I roll my own but it has dropped a deer and quite a few hogs. This is a fun short range gun to play with and it will do the job. My farthest game shot with it so far has been the deer in the last pic with a neck shot at 140 yards. She is a thumper but it is a very manageable rifle to shoot.

I have two rifles in 45/70 and they are no where near as fun to shoot, but then again i don't need to justify my need for guns!

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Panzercat
June 17, 2011, 04:23 PM
What's the effective range on this thing? Somebody mentioned 'like' a 45-70 and as long as you can deal with the arc, that's a pretty long engagement envelope...

Double Naught Spy
June 17, 2011, 06:11 PM
You are looking at about 1800-2000 fps depending on the ammo (factory loadings).

So with 325 gr. ball ammo leaving the barrel at 1900 fps, you are looking at a velocity down to 872 fps and 260 inches of drop

With a 325 gr. ball ammo of a .45-70 at 1900 fps, you are looking at 940 fps and 230 inches of drop at 500 yards.

TIMC
June 17, 2011, 09:05 PM
What's the effective range on this thing? Somebody mentioned 'like' a 45-70 and as long as you can deal with the arc, that's a pretty long engagement envelope...

You are correct, range is only limited by the shooter in dealing with bullet drop. My primary load is with 334 grain bullets at 1810fps which arc like a softball so I like to stay 150 yards or less for pig busting. I have done some limited testing with 300 grain bullets at 1950fps and would feel ok out to 200 yards with them. Those are the ranges I feel comfortable making head and neck shots; anything longer and I would rather switch to a different caliber.

OhioChief
June 18, 2011, 02:53 AM
So this has nothing to do with the .50, but I have a RRA .458 SOCOM, It needs to have the mag modified to feed the .458's, which I'm not sure how to do. Is the .50 the same way? Needs to have modifications to the .556 mag to allow feeding of the bigger rounds?

Strykervet
June 18, 2011, 03:16 AM
I tested this for the army on army ranges for possible adoption for our unit. We only used 334 grain plated bullets. Possible use was for entry and for disabling vehicles at roadblocks. We didn't adopt it ourselves (despite our recommendation) but the Coast Guard did to kill outboard motors.

Penetration is phenomenal, the round defeats cover well, has a powerful impact. Useful range is 200m in my opinion, as anything further has rapid drop.

Like was shown above, it is good for hunting, you take pretty much anything at nominal distances, such as hog, deer, elk, pretty much anything in the Americas.

The light fast Beowulf loads are devastating to a person or medium game, while the heavier loads are powerful enough to anchor a bear. Similar to the S&W .500, but it can be driven to higher velocities.

I still have the one they sent me. After we were done, they let me keep it, and I'd never sell it, it is one of my favorite M4 uppers. I load for it, and it never lets me down. Kicks like a 12ga. with lighter bullets, like a 20ga. with heavier ones. Truly a unique and practical setup, it is reliable, powerful, and accurate.

Lloyd Smale
June 18, 2011, 09:06 AM
heres her bufflalo http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=441431 I kind of screwed her up that day. it had a leupold 2x7 on it and she was having problems with the stock all the back seeing through it. I was in a hurry and just retracted it all the way and handed it to her. She then was to close to the stock and the scope broke her nose when she shot. I dont know if you can see it in the picture. Dont let it scare you though the recoil really isnt that bad. About like shooting 2 3/4 slugs out of a pump shotgun. One of these days im going to fit my bump fire stock to it and see what its like to shoot it full auto.

cmdc
June 18, 2011, 11:05 AM
I ordered a 50 Beowulf upper the other day. I also have a AA Entry Rifle in 6.5 Grendel. I took it out the other day and shot it with a 2-7x33 Leupold VX-R scope on it. It is very accurate, but I'm thinking about putting the 2-7 on the Beowulf and getting a 3-9 for the 6.5. What scope to you guys use? I noted that one of you said it ate up an Eotech.

I have a SlideFire, and putting it on this thing should be an adventure.

TIMC
June 18, 2011, 11:36 AM
My Beowulf is sporting a 2.5-8x32mm Signature Safari scope with Illuminated reticle which I don't think they make aymore; too bad because it is a nice scope. I've had a lot of rounds through the gun and the scope has held up very well.

My Grendel has had a Burris Fulfield II 4.5-14x50mm scope on it but recently I gave the rifle a face lift with a new stock and have been playing with a Burris laser scope on it which is nice but fairly bulky. I am thinking about taking that off and going with a Leupold VX3LR scope in 6.5-20 for longer range varmint hunting. I am also running fairly heavy on my bullets for the Grendel at 129 grains but i have had some good accuracy results with that bullet weight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Hunting%20pics/BobcatJan082010.jpg
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cmdc
June 18, 2011, 11:52 AM
TIMC, that's a nice stock on your Grendel, what kind is it? Also, the 2-7 Ill.Ret. should work just fine on the Beowulf, right? I decided after shooting the Grendel that it deserved a higher power scope. Will the 3-9 be enough or should I go higher? I want to use the rifle to its full capability distance-wise, including varminting. I also like the ill. ret. idea, and have a couple of Trijicon Accupoints as well, but I don't think the glass is as good in them as it is in the Leupolds.

cmdc
June 18, 2011, 12:08 PM
Also, on a side note, though I realize it is a personal preference, what reticle do you prefer?

TIMC
June 18, 2011, 12:12 PM
TIMC, that's a nice stock on your Grendel, what kind is it? Also, the 2-7 Ill.Ret. should work just fine on the Beowulf, right? I decided after shooting the Grendel that it deserved a higher power scope. Will the 3-9 be enough or should I go higher? I want to use the rifle to its full capability distance-wise, including varminting. I also like the ill. ret. idea, and have a couple of Trijicon Accupoints as well, but I don't think the glass is as good in them as it is in the Leupolds.

The stock is the magpul PRS stock, they are a little pricey but work well.

The 2-7 scope should be fine for your Beowulf; like I said I have a 2.5-8 on mine and it works great.

As far as the scope on the Grendel there are different schools of thought on that; I like high power scopes like the 6.5-20 Leupold long range scopes with the side focus. I want to be able to count eyelashes when varmint hunting and if I want to hit a coyote between the eyes at 200 yards I need a high power scope to do it but that is me and others will tell you that much magnification is not neccesary. You will need to decide on what is right for you.

cmdc
June 18, 2011, 12:16 PM
Thanks. I know what you mean about personal preference. I have several scopes, so I'll play around and decide.

TIMC
June 18, 2011, 05:12 PM
Also, on a side note, though I realize it is a personal preference, what reticle do you prefer?

I have tried a variety and still find myself with the old fashioned duplex as my favorite.

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