S&W 4506, Opinons?


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RightCoastBiased
June 4, 2011, 04:51 PM
I am considering getting a S&W 4506 for the night stand and possibly for a carry piece while doing armed security. I don't know much about them and I've never shot one. But I've always liked the look of them. It seems that they can be had for around $400 so it isn't a large "investment".

I know the 4506 was carried by several departments at one point. But not sure what problems, if any, it is prone to, or known to have. Please clue me in.

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xr1200
June 4, 2011, 04:57 PM
Bulky , poor trigger, heavy, not that accurate 4-5" groups at 25yrds. , spare parts or replacement will soon be a problem, low round capacity. I owned one brand new in the late 90's and sold it about 6 months after buying it.

Better off puting the $450 to a good 1911 platform

RightCoastBiased
June 4, 2011, 05:00 PM
Bummer to hear that! I am also looking at the new Ruger SR1911 which I shot and loved. Maybe I'll be better going in that direction.

ColtPythonElite
June 4, 2011, 05:01 PM
x2 on what xr said...Personally, I wouldn't put $400 into one, especially when you can get a used Glock for that amount of money if you shop around.

ajoker31
June 4, 2011, 05:34 PM
I really liked my 4506, it was very accurate. The trigger is average, most 3rd generation S&W's have a springy trigger. I've always considered buying another one just to customize it. I like heavy pistols for nightstand/range guns but wouldn't prefer to carry it all day long.

Personally I'd prefer a Glock 21sf for business carry....I'll take 14 rounds every day.

Best,
Jerry

ojibweindian
June 4, 2011, 07:08 PM
I've found the 4506 to be built like a brick <blank> house, reliable, and accurate enough for most purposes.

19-3Ben
June 4, 2011, 07:29 PM
Bulky , poor trigger, heavy, not that accurate 4-5" groups at 25yrds. , spare parts or replacement will soon be a problem, low round capacity. I owned one brand new in the late 90's and sold it about 6 months after buying it.

Better off puting the $450 to a good 1911 platform

Based on everything that I ever read, the few of them that I have shot, and every review by everyone who's ever shot one, I have to call horse pucky here.

They are as strong, sturdy, durable, and reliable as it gets. As for the trigger, I'd say they are far above average for any non-competition gun.

You say they have low capacity but then say the OP should buy a 1911? ummm....:scrutiny:
They are both 8+1 capacity guns. I will admit that for an 8+1 gun, the 4506 is heavier and bulkier than a 1911. But it'll also shoot hotter loads without needing the same mods as a 1911, so there's a positive to that trade off.

I'm editing to add:
The very first 4506 I ever shot, was shot side by side with a Wilson Combat CQB. I actually shot the Smith more accurately. Totally caught me off guard. (not saying I don't covet a CQB. They are incredibly fine guns.)

frank c
June 4, 2011, 07:43 PM
I am considering getting a S&W 4506 for the night stand and possibly for a carry piece while doing armed security. I don't know much about them and I've never shot one. But I've always liked the look of them. It seems that they can be had for around $400 so it isn't a large "investment".

I know the 4506 was carried by several departments at one point. But not sure what problems, if any, it is prone to, or known to have. Please clue me in.
S&W 4506 is a great choice IMHO.I have a few S&W auto models 3913,3914,5906,and CS9.All have great triggers,very dependable,quality made and dead nuts accurate at 25 yards.

SharpsDressedMan
June 4, 2011, 08:07 PM
I currently do not have a 4506, but have shot them, and regard them as a high quality gun. I DO have a 1006, basically the same gun in 10mm. It is extremely accurate, and has a very good STOCK trigger pull. As some others have said, I'd say it is a better DA trigger pull than most DA autos. The 10mm holds one extra round (9 in the mag) over the .45 (8 rd mag). I think the 4506 will hold up to a lifetime of shooting, and S&W is still taking them for repair, and probably can supply any parts you want to stock up on. My 10mm had a tired extractor spring, so I had them replace the extractor and spring. That's the only thing I've had to do, and it just keeps on blasting. Very durable and reliable autos.

JTQ
June 4, 2011, 08:37 PM
I have one.

It is big, durable, reliable, and accurate.

Jeb21
June 4, 2011, 11:50 PM
I love 4506. I would pay $400 for another one. Another option would be the M&P 45. It is just a bit lighter to carry and holds two more rounds.

dogrunner
June 5, 2011, 12:03 AM
And to top it off, that platform has undoubtedly the BEST feed system ever devised.........doubt that?.... then try this, take an average 1911, stoke the mag with empties & try to get it to feed..........I have an old transition 645 that will shuck a complete magazine full just as fast as you can cycle the slide!!

Trigger,........ easily as good if not better than any stock 1911, and that's straight out of the box........DA on the 2nd generation guns is smooth as silk........there was some minor geometry change to enable that. That system was forced into an early retirement by the emergence of the "plastic wondernines", not because of any inherent shortcomings of design.......in my personal opinion, having carried mine as a duty gun I'd rate it far superior to that latter, and in every case it outranks that antique Browning system.

Overall the platform is utterly reliable, accurate and to be frank about it, far superior to ANY 1911.

MachIVshooter
June 5, 2011, 01:46 AM
I paid $450 for mine in new condition with box and 2 mags. I've owned or at least shot most .45's on the market, and would choose my 4506 above all. The only .45 I'd keep over my 4506 is my 4516-1. If my 4506 were the -1 variant, it'd be a toss up. I just like the heavier frame of the -1.

You'll be quite happy with the gun if you decide to get one. It's one of the most accurate combat type auto's out there, and hell for stout. You can even shoot .45 super with no modifications to the 4506. They are somewhat large compared to 1911's, but not as big as an HK Mk 23 or somesuch. Weight? 42 ounces, about 3 ounces heavier than a typical 1911. They're really not that heavy.

IlikeSA
June 5, 2011, 02:30 AM
I was issued one with the PD and hated the thing. It was DAO, and had a horrible trigger. I don't know about the others, but mine would not load Wolf to save my neck. My 1911 on the other hand, it eats whatever I give it.

The pros:
It is steel, single stack, easy to assemble and disassemble, and fairly thin in the grip
Cons:
not the most accurate, bad trigger, mags are expensive (33.99 on Midway)

Conclusion: get a 1911, if you can. I would carry the 4506 over a revolver though.

KurtC
June 5, 2011, 11:06 AM
Shortest, slickest DAO trigger pull ever put on an auto. The hammer rests in a half-cock position. So reliable it will chamber empty cases all day long. This one is set up for .45 Super.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/Stutzen/SS013.jpg

windsor311
June 5, 2011, 11:26 AM
The S&W 4506 IS a great gun. Don't let somebody else's opinion make your decision. You really should find a friend or someone on here close to your location that has one and test drive it. I carried one for twelve years before the agency switched to Glocks. Mine functioned flawlessly for all training and that included SWAT and Instructor schools. These are accurate and reliable. Don't worry about parts, plenty of parts at S&W as well as PD's and armorers around the US that still have parts for a once, widely used in service pistol.

If you can pick up a nice one for $400.00, and YOU like it...... Buy it.

+1 on the 4516-1 It's the smaller version .45 and I will NEVER sell or trade the one I own.

I love the 1911 platform and I'm a Colt fan. I have several of these too that I trust my life with.

ulflyer
June 5, 2011, 12:27 PM
I've had one: bottom line, they go bang every time!

GZOh
June 5, 2011, 12:42 PM
Have a 4566 (SA/DA) and love mine... great gun, tack-driver one of the best third-gen S&Ws. If you can get one in G/VG condition for $400, jump on it!!!
My two third-gen favorites!!!

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/geezeepix/4566006.jpg

PabloJ
June 5, 2011, 02:02 PM
I had seven-shot compact one and it went bang ALMOST every time. One thing that surprised me was low recoil when Hogue grips were on the gun. Assuming good mechanical order $400 is very favorable price for gun like this.

Fat Boy
June 5, 2011, 02:20 PM
I owned one a few years ago; it had been magnaported and had after-market adjustable sights and Hogue wood grips; I stupidly sold it- it was accurate and easy to shoot well.

As has already been mentioned or alluded to, each person should make their own decision but I think the 4506 is an excellent choice in a .45acp semi-automatic handgun

KurtC
June 5, 2011, 03:57 PM
I would also like to add that it makes one helluva nice blunt instrument, when trying to observe noise discipline.

RightCoastBiased
June 5, 2011, 06:37 PM
Glad to hear all the good reviews! I really have always liked the way this pistol looks. I've got to get out and shoot one.

Anyone have experience with the 5906?

ajoker31
June 5, 2011, 07:29 PM
I like the 3rd Gen S&W's. The 4506 I had was great, the 5906......not so much. The 5906 that I had just wasn't very accurate.

Jerry

Ddog1
June 5, 2011, 10:44 PM
I personally have owned a number of third-gen Smith's and loved all of them. Currently own a 5906 and a 1006. Reliable, accurate, and tough as nails. The only drawback is they are heavy as lead compared to polymer weapons. $400.00...you bet I would. All day long and twice on Sunday!

MachIVshooter
June 5, 2011, 11:20 PM
Anyone have experience with the 5906?

I have one of those as well (and a 1006, 4006 and CS45). My favorite 9mm, and I've owned or currently own 9mm's of just about every flavor. Reasonable size and weight, good capacity, accurate, reliable and durable in the extreme. one helluva gun for the $300-$400 they presently fetch.

NG VI
June 6, 2011, 11:42 AM
I don't know about the others, but mine would not load Wolf to save my neck.


Why would you load Wolf to save your neck?

Walt Sherrill
June 6, 2011, 11:54 AM
Re: 5906...

If you stumble across one that came from the S&W Peformance Center, they are something special, and generally worth any "premium" charge.

IlikeSA
June 6, 2011, 12:34 PM
Quote:
I don't know about the others, but mine would not load Wolf to save my neck.

Why would you load Wolf to save your neck?




It's a saying, and I tried to run Wolf through to compete in a competition. Being fresh out of college and on a budget, I bought and used Wolf ammo. My 1911 has been flawless with it, but the Smith failed to load every shot.

Thaddeus Jones
June 6, 2011, 01:36 PM
Wow. Until this thread I'd never read anything negative about the 4506......other than some folks complaining that it was a little heavy.

I have around fourteen years experience behind the 4506-1. One of my last duty guns as a matter of fact. Only time I didn't qualify with a score of 100 while shooting it was due to my carelessness.

Accurate? Yep, all the way out to 50 yards. Reliable? Bet your life reliable. I did and I'm still here.

The 4506 and subsequent 4506-1 is a good looking gun with a great trigger that only got sweeter with use. Too bad the company calling itself S&W doesn't know how to make a good looking gun with a great trigger anymore.

Buy the 4506 with confidence. You will be glad you did. :) TJ

Onward Allusion
June 6, 2011, 03:35 PM
RightCoastBiased (http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=140965)
S&W 4506, Opinons?
I am considering getting a S&W 4506 for the night stand and possibly for a carry piece while doing armed security. I don't know much about them and I've never shot one. But I've always liked the look of them. It seems that they can be had for around $400 so it isn't a large "investment".

I know the 4506 was carried by several departments at one point. But not sure what problems, if any, it is prone to, or known to have. Please clue me in.

Solid like a big rock and weighs as much as a one, too. For $400, buy it, shoot it, and if you really hate it - sell it for a profit. It's a 3rd gen Smith semi-auto and it isn't a 1911. You can't compare the triggers. It's not that kind of gun.

BigShep85
June 6, 2011, 03:39 PM
I am from what is called the new generation, I was mostly raised on polymers and couldnt afford (or refused to pay the high price of) a quality 1911. I had a friend whom I work with say he had a 4506-1 for sale I didnt currently own a .45 at the time so I done my research and bought it for a reasonable price.....BIG MISTAKE!!!
Now I am hooked, I love it. I am a big guy at 6'8 so the weight doesnt effect me, it was solid, it didnt feel cheap it felt like a gun should. Accuracy was spot on too I hit everything I pointed at and smooth as aged whiskey like it just rolled with every shot... it immediatly got promoted to my nightstand and winter carry gun. Now I always have one eye out for those third generations I am currently looking for, as others have commented on, that elusive 4516-1 for summer carry but evidently nobody wants to sell theirs:fire:, and I dont blame them cuz ain't nobody getting my 4506-1:neener:.
good luck

RightCoastBiased
June 6, 2011, 07:41 PM
I am glad to hear so many good experiences with the 4506.

It is back on my list as a contender. Thanks!

IdahoLT1
June 7, 2011, 02:46 AM
CDNN has 5906s for $299. Supposed to be good quality police trade ins with department markings.

MachIVshooter
June 7, 2011, 01:03 PM
Solid like a big rock and weighs as much as a one, too.

Again, they're only about 3 ounces heavier than a 1911.

The third gens are about the best value on the used market right now.

Of course, I'm not about to let any of mine go.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/Smith3rd.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/SW45s.jpg

hemiram
June 9, 2011, 05:19 AM
I never thought about the S&W guns too much until a friend bought a 5906, and after I bought one of the Bud's 4586's, I got hooked, and now I have a 5906-1, a 4506-1, the 4586, and recently a 4006 TSW. All of them, except the 4586 are in excellent cosmetic condition, the 4586 has seen some contact with a sidewalk or something, but it's fine mechanically. Shoots amazingly well. I will soon start looking for a 6906 to complete the set. Maybe a 1006 too, even though I'm not a fan of the cartridge.

PaperScraper
June 9, 2011, 05:34 AM
It goes bang and eats what you feed it....

Though I dunno about the $400.00 ticket on it. There is a 10th Anniversary edition with Bomar Sight on it with 6 mags at our range going for $400.00 and it looks new. The trigger is great by the way...

You mentioned the SR1911, I'd go with that myself.

Polymer isn't a personal taste of mine. I've seen a few Glocks blow up in peoples hands which they will always do before a Metal Firearm no matter what anyone says. After all it's simple Psychics.

SwampWolf
June 9, 2011, 02:36 PM
Add me to the list of people who have enough experience to appreciate Smith Third Generation pistols. Accurate enough, reliable as the sun rising in the East, stoutly made, fine workmanship and materials and a good fit for most people, egonomically speaking. Because these pistols have been vastly under-rated and are now discontinued, used ones in good condition are very affordable...for now. :uhoh:

Thaddeus Jones
June 9, 2011, 03:20 PM
Yesterday afternoon I went to the new county courthouse to retrieve some documents.

Outside, I saw a plain clothes detective with a 4506-1 in an OWB holster. I knew he was a detective by virtue of the locally obligatory polo shirt and 511 pants.......well.....that and the star on his belt. :)

A silver haired older fellow. I commented on his choice of sidearm advising that I'd carried a similar 4506 as my last duty gun. He said he wouldn't have anything else in his holster. "Reliable and accurate. This one is a 50 yard gun." he told me.

I asked if the M&P 45 that one of the local sheriffs departments got free from S&W wouldn't be better to carry. He sneered and told me "you couldn't give me one of those plastic pistols." I asked why? He shook his head, then smiled and stubbed out his cigarette. "Bad experience with tuperware as a child." he said. :)

VA27
June 9, 2011, 08:50 PM
I bought one of the first ones and the trigger was looooooong. The trigger had to be pulled to almost touching the frame before it fired. The DAO was much better in that respect, but it's still a bigger gun than it needs to be.

RightCoastBiased
June 9, 2011, 10:51 PM
I handled a 4006 and something else I don't remember the model number of at cabela's tonight. I found them too big for my hands. I figure a 4506 would not be any better. A let down for sure. But maybe I'll buy one for a safe gun one day. I still love the way they look.

JWJacobVT
June 9, 2011, 11:05 PM
I have and use several S&W gen 3 handguns in my NRA basic pistol courses 5906, 4006, 4516, 4506, 1006 as well as 1911s and Glocks and Sigs. Can you guess which Semi pistols my students keep shooting and loving? I have used (at work) and carried a gen 3 Smith for almost 30 years now, currently a 1066 rides at my side. If you can find a handgun that fits your hand and wallet buy it.

MachIVshooter
June 9, 2011, 11:34 PM
I handled a 4006 and something els of at cabela's tonight. I found them too big for my hands. I figure a 4506 would not be any better

Handle one first. The 10XX and 45XX are single stack, and feel quite different. The are also flat and arched grips for them. The flat ones make them scarcely bulkier than a 1911. There's still the long DA trigger reach, though.

1goodshot
June 10, 2011, 08:50 AM
You can always turn it into a 45 super if you want something different.

0to60
June 11, 2011, 12:43 AM
I've had a 4506 for almost 20 years now. Its a fine gun. The finish is absolutely outstanding. Build quality is fantastic, its as accurate as anything else I own. Its got a nice, integrated feed ramp that loads anything I've ever fed it. If you're a "trigger stickler", you'd definitely like a 1911 better. If you're not particular and a DA/SA trigger doesn't bother you, you can't go wrong. Magazine capacity is the same as a 1911.

Its a great gun, you can't go wrong.

carbuncle
June 11, 2011, 01:08 AM
My opinion is, I want one to go along with my 5906 and 6906. Great guns, reliable, accurate and very fun shooters.

RightCoastBiased
June 11, 2011, 07:00 PM
Actually got hands on a 4506-1 today, felt nice in hand. I really dig this gun, but I am not digging the $650 price tag!

winddummy
June 11, 2011, 09:51 PM
one of the strongest 45's made. it's one of the very few that will handle the 45 super. $400 would be a very good price on one in good condition.

ExtownCop
June 17, 2011, 08:00 AM
Greetings,

This is my first post here, and I am glad it is about a topic that I love........................my 4506. I carried mine as a duty gun for almost 11 years. Three years before retirement due to accreditation compliance, we were forced to change over to department issued plastic poppers (Glock 40).

Upon getting the 4506 new, the getting to know each other period was a little rough at first. My hands are large enough for the gun, and initial control was not too bad. Most of the initial trouble was related to my being left handed. The range instructor tried talking me into getting something different because as a range instructor and S&W armorer, he had noticed the problems this model presented to South paws. These are not big problems, but none the less they have to be overcome to properly utilize the weapon.

I have noticed that several members commented about the control. What I was told was generally a weaker wristed person can compensate with proper (better) stance and grip. All I know is that this was the gun I wanted to carry, and I would do whatever it took to qualify with it. As others have stated, it is heavier, and did kind of create a little imbalance with the duty belt. My biggest gripe was that being a South paw, I would pay the price when sitting down in the squad seat, and forgetting to move a little more to the right before shutting the door. But then again that also happened at times with the Popper.

If I had to do it all over again, the 4506 would still be my choice. I feel that it is a very accurate gun. I was never Top Gun, but I did witness what this gun is capable of doing in skilled hands. I was not at the bottom as far as accuracy goes, but the assistant range instructor told me that I had a slight handicap that would take a lot of range time to compensate. After several years of wondering why I was never consistent with my grouping, he discovered that I am right eye dominate even though I am left handed. Things greatly improved with the re-training and his patience.

The 4506 is a great gun for the right kind of person. I would not hesitate to pay $400.00 for a used one in good condition. The Glock which I was allowed to take with me upon retirement will never have another round discharged from it. This may sound like a waste to some people, but upon the retirement in August of the person responsible for selecting this plastic parasite, he will be receiving it as a retirement gift mounted to a plaque by a stylish brass bolt for which a hole will be milled through the slide and receiver.

Thanks for allowing me to join this great site.

Lucky 7
June 17, 2011, 08:13 AM
Going into it knowing and wanting a TDA, the 45xx series is pretty great. Big sure, heavy (great for recoil), more accurate than most shooters, and the DA pull and reset are tops. Determine your needs and wants before going ahead with a purchase and get some trigger time on the candidates.

Was recently looking for a CCW and came across a 4516. Having had the 4506-1 years ago I almost went with it. Ended up with a 92FS Compact because I already have a dozen mags for it's big brother.

Good luck!

Regards,
Lucky

jackpinesavages
June 17, 2011, 09:50 AM
Buy the $400 3rd Gen.s Smiths everytime: 45xx series, 10xx series, you name it. "They don't make em like they used to." :)

Joe Demko
June 17, 2011, 10:22 AM
I have a 4566 and a 1006. Also owned another 4566 for years which I carried as a duty pistol. The solid steel 3rd generation automatics are some high quality guns. They are reliable, accurate, and durable. The only thing that was ever "wrong" with them was that they were insufficiently tacticool. If Tommy Lee Jones had grated out something macho about them or Steven "the Hutt" Seagal had used them in his cinematic adventures, they'd be making them still.

Lucky 7
June 18, 2011, 11:51 AM
Joe nailed it. The Gen 3s don't hold 20 rounds or have a rail (TSW series excluded) or weigh 14oz loaded or striker fired or have a baked-in-a-volcano finish. They are what they are, which is a throwback to All-American quailty.

Man, now the 6904 has to go to the range with me today...

Regards,
Lucky

Leadbutt
June 18, 2011, 05:14 PM
THey been around long enough to have the bugs worked out of them, IMO the only thing that beats the 45 seris is the 1086

jolly roger
June 18, 2011, 08:57 PM
Carried one on duty for about 10 years. Bought it when we switched to HK USPs. Excellent gun IMHO and would feed empty cases. Accurate to boot. Shot an entire mag full of 230 ball into the 8 ring of a B27 one time...at 125 yards prone :)

Joseph Med
September 29, 2011, 07:19 PM
Check the weight of both Autos ( 4506 and 1911 ) and then come back tell us the different weight of the two.
I think you will be surprised on how close the weights are.

Strykervet
September 29, 2011, 08:33 PM
The 3rd gen Smith pistols are some of the finest ever made. They just couldn't compete with Glock for the police contracts --Glock would give away their pistols if they bought mags and traded in their old pistols. Sometimes 3rd gen Smith pistols. Then they'd sell these for profit, and they could do it because they could make the pistols for a lot less. The 3rd gen pistols was more costly to manufacture, and based on Glock's success, Smith dropped them to copy Glock and make 1911 and AR copies, a huge mistake I think. I believe they'll take on a collector value in the future.

DC3-CVN-72
September 30, 2011, 03:11 AM
I have a S&W1006 & a S&W3913. I will own more of these 3rd. gen. smiths. They are a best buy on the used gun market. :)

Viper
September 30, 2011, 05:35 PM
And to top it off, that platform has undoubtedly the BEST feed system ever devised.........doubt that?.... then try this, take an average 1911, stoke the mag with empties & try to get it to feed..........I have an old transition 645 that will shuck a complete magazine full just as fast as you can cycle the slide!!

Trigger,........ easily as good if not better than any stock 1911, and that's straight out of the box........DA on the 2nd generation guns is smooth as silk........there was some minor geometry change to enable that. That system was forced into an early retirement by the emergence of the "plastic wondernines", not because of any inherent shortcomings of design.......in my personal opinion, having carried mine as a duty gun I'd rate it far superior to that latter, and in every case it outranks that antique Browning system.

Overall the platform is utterly reliable, accurate and to be frank about it, far superior to ANY 1911.
I've done the same trick with a full mag in a 4586 and 4563. I really like the 3rd gen S&W and have had quite a few, still have a 457S and CS45. The only one that was a disappointment was a 4043 because I didn't like the DAO trigger.

Tom Fury
October 2, 2011, 02:43 PM
Has that 10th anniversary you mentioned? Been lookin' for one of those...
Cheers, TF
S&W 4506 (x3)
S&W Perf center CQB 4563 (x2)
4516-2x2
4516-1x1
4513
CS45
two tone 457
645 modified to SAO by Novaks.
1911 PD

dondavis3
October 2, 2011, 08:51 PM
I just bought a fine S&W 5906 from CDNN for $295 about 6 months ago.

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/dondavis3/Guns/SW59069mm.jpg

It's a police trade in and is in wonderful shape for it's age.

Shoots straight & true.

:cool:

mkvtaco
October 3, 2011, 04:07 AM
Check out the sig pro 2022!

dondavis3
October 3, 2011, 09:26 AM
@ mkvtaco

I believe that the Sig Sauer P2022 is a more modern gun .

And probably a better gun overall.

:cool:

MachIVshooter
October 3, 2011, 11:22 AM
I believe that the Sig Sauer P2022 is a more modern gun

Well, yeah, for whatever that's worth.

And probably a better gun overall.

That's just funny.

Thaddeus Jones
October 3, 2011, 11:29 AM
I just shot my 4506-1 for my retired qualification. 99.6 Day and 98 night score. Guess my 100 day are behind me! My fault not the 4506-1. :(

The kids qualifying that day called it the "Vic Mackey" gun. Evidently after a TV character who preferred the 4506.

I'll never get rid of my 3rd generation pistols. No manufacturer today makes anything as nice......well.....for less that $2200 anyway. :)

lockbreech
October 3, 2011, 11:38 AM
In my opinion the S&W 4506 is the best 45 ACP pistol ever made in this country. Just way better than that 1911 Browning abortion that people are spending way too much money for these days. But what do I know I have only been a gunsmith for 35 years now!

steveracer
October 5, 2011, 10:48 AM
The 4506 and it's little brothers are wonderful pistols in every configuration. The ONLY one I didn't like was the 4513, as it was a little too light for my tastes, and felt like a toy. (Heavier than a M&P45C, mind you, but still felt too light)

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