Talk me out of it!!!


June 4, 2011, 06:27 PM
Ok guys, talk me out of this:

I'm considering selling off my bow, all the arrows, etc (all worth about 600 new, about 4-450 used) to get the below rifle for 300 flat.

Remington 700 ADL in synthetic in .270.
Bushnell 3200 3-9x40
New in packaging Harris bipod.

If I get the Remington. I'm going to want to get it converted to have a hinged floor plate (80ish from what I hear), and later to start accurizing it. That'd include a mcmillian stock (200+), bolt face and action truing (??), timney or jewel trigger (150ish) and possibly other things that you guys end up coming up with to have a very good shooting rifle.

Talk me out of it, please... I wont be able to explain it to her.

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June 4, 2011, 06:35 PM
action truing + new barrel probably $900 (mas o menos)

you are going to HATE having such a nice rifle at the end of all that work. It's going to consistently shoot better than you, and at the end of the day you'll say 'dang, that mighty fine rifle out shot me again.' or ' If only I wasn't so bad behind the trigger, that'd be a .3" group instead of a .7" group'. It'll be awful.

Godspeed sir.

June 4, 2011, 06:36 PM
more seriously, if you love your bow setup, just keep it. save some money up and then start from the ground up on the custom rig you want.

June 4, 2011, 06:37 PM
Your are not likely to get much help here.
If I did not already own a center fire rifle I would have to go for it. Due to a bad shoulder, I cant shoot a bow so it is a problem I wont have to face anymore.

June 4, 2011, 06:46 PM
You all suck.

I do like my bow, but I'm getting my grandfathers antique (for bows) compound in a couple of months. New arrows and all is set there. I don't bow hunt, so the bow is just for kicks.... Hell, I might even get my ccw permit the anything left over if I can get enough for the setup.

June 4, 2011, 06:52 PM
well in that case, it sounds like you're trading up to me. new rifle and ccw permit?! plus I get to hang on to heirloom bows? win win win.

If she asks, you can tell her we made you do it.

Hocka Louis
June 4, 2011, 07:51 PM
It takes years of alot of good practice to use a bow as well as your wife will out of the box...

I hope that's a NEW 700 -- why buy used and then start all that crap.

Red Tornado
June 4, 2011, 08:33 PM
That's a great deal on a hunting rifle. Have you shot it? It sounds like you want a bench rifle instead. I don't think you'll significantly improve it as a hunter, but I also don't think you can go wrong at that price using it for a build.

BTW, we talk people into guns, not out of them. ;)

June 4, 2011, 08:42 PM
I think history has proven fairly conclusively that Rifle > Bow & Arrows.

Plus, if you're saying you can get a 700 ADL (in decent condition) with a Bushnell 3200 (very nice lower cost scope) all for $300, I'd say you should jump on it. I know I would, and I already have a similar setup.

Plus Plus, you'll be getting an antique family heirloom bow anyway, might as well convert the one you have into a rifle.

June 4, 2011, 08:46 PM
we'd make a horrible support group.

June 4, 2011, 08:50 PM
Hocka - I dont hunt with bows, regardless on how well I shoot with it. It's a play toy, and that's all it will ever be. It's used, but The build won't begin for a few years, and it will take several years to do, if I decide to do it. The stock may or may not ever happen. The trigger will depend on the status of the current trigger and what I can do with it. The stock may get bedded using a good epoxy instead.

The rifle probably wont work as a bench gun ever anyways. I'd use it as a hunting rifle mostly. The action truing will run a couple hundred, but why not IF I ever find the spare change.

June 4, 2011, 08:52 PM
I like shooting bows well enough but they depreciate in value faster than boats.

Guns.....not so much. If you sell a bow to buy a gun you are only ever coming out on top. At a store I worked at we sold bows and guns. Every once in a while a customer would want to trade a gun in for a new bow. We accepted and laughed all the way to the bank. If anyone ever wanted to trade a bow for a gun we just laughed.

Another thing, sell the bow and buy a Rem 700 with a hinged floorplate already. Same price and no work to change out.

June 4, 2011, 08:53 PM
kis - aint that the truth.

Gtscotty - the bow was acquired for my grandfather by Fred Bears daughter for free. It was passed with the blessings of Fred himself. It was one of the earliest compounds that Bear made. It was a very good bow as well.

June 4, 2011, 08:54 PM
Keep The Bow! Good Bow Setup there is Harder to replace in My Opinion!


Figure out a different angle to score the Rifle!

June 4, 2011, 09:40 PM
I am not a great shot, and I don't intend to shoot enough to become good. I plan on using a 30 year old bow and shooting instinctive... a whole lot less setup there than worrying about sights, and stabilizers, and arrow rest types, etc. Old school archery. I'd love to get my hands on his old recurve....
I shoot my guns a few times a year... less than 200 rounds a year total. My shotgun goes out every few months to put a box or two of slugs through it. My garand hasn't been shot in a year (and I do have ammo for it). My .308 also gets shot rarely. I've had it for over a year and I've only got a couple boxes through it.

Tom - A good bow can be shot instinctively about immediately once you find the right arrow rest and arrows. I will be shooting fingertip release. I will be using pretty much nothing but the bow, as it is setup (it's been through several state championships and it did very well) so other than strings and getting the nock set right I'm good to go.

Earthgoat - mind showing me a .270 bdl with less than 4 boxes of ammo through it topped with a 150 dollar scope and a 50 dollar bipod for 300? Thats out the door. The rifle is shootable now, and the mods are what i may do in the future.

June 4, 2011, 09:52 PM
If it is going to be years in the making then you can probably find the right deal before then. If you are going to go semi custom then the scope should not even be factored into the value since it will be replaced anyway. (I hope)

Good deal on the rifle right now though.

Im sorry to badger but I always wait for just the right thing to come around and I wont settle for any less.

June 4, 2011, 10:26 PM

June 4, 2011, 10:43 PM
Sounds like a pretty screaming deal for a 700 with scope and bipod to me. If you don't want it, I know a guy who has been looking for a 270. Oh wait, that's me.

Dr T
June 5, 2011, 10:25 AM
BUT he wants a reason not to buy:

I have never sold a projectile launching appliance that have not regretted selling later. Sounds like you will have the start of a bow collection.

A 700 ADL with a hinged floor plate is still a 700 ADL. You should wait to get a higher grade of gun before sinking the money into it.

If you really want an accurate rifle, I would suggest that you need better optics than a Bushnell scope. If the scope is not NIB, you don't know how it may have been shaken, rattled, and rolled.

I have had a Harris bipod for years. I have never used it. On the bench I use a good rest and in the field I use what ever is available (Pickup door sill, fence post, tree branch, jacket folded up on a rock.

On the other hand, IF everything is new and undamaged, for $300 you should consider it. However, at that price, you should ask why it is that low (does the seller seriously need the money badly) or if someone is selling a mistake they made in futzing with the gun.

June 5, 2011, 10:49 AM
You're asking us to do the impossible.

fireman 9731
June 5, 2011, 11:11 AM
Dr T has good points....

The only fault I see in it is that it is chambered in 270. Thats a great round, don't get me wrong. But, it wouldn't be my first choice to customize a rifle in it... Unless you plan on doing quite a bit of antelope hunting. If you are going to be doing much shooting, 270 is kinda expensive unless you reload. If you don't reload, I would suggest selling the bow and buying a reloading setup.

June 5, 2011, 02:07 PM
have you shot the 700? does it actually need the action work and hinged floorplate and expensive stock? It might be plenty accurate.

for a bench gun I'd get something else, and for a hunting rifle I wouldn't add all that stuff.

now, it seems to be a great price if it is what you want, but if it's not what you actually want I woudn't bother.

June 5, 2011, 02:57 PM
dr. T
the rifle sights have nothing to do with how accurate the rifle is. Accuracy is a mechanical function (we're actually talking consistancy here, not poi vs poa, which isn't dependent on sights but the person shooting) and it doesn't involve sights.

what are the acual differences between the adl action and the "higher end" remington actions. Now what are the difference after a 500 dollar blueprinting on both. I'm not really after a bench gun, but that is the extreme of accuracy. It'll be a range toy, I already have my hunting guns.

as to the comments about the caliber.... I really don't give a whit about the expense as I do reload.

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