Springfield XDM9 - Underrated gem


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the count
June 5, 2011, 11:41 AM
Recently traded in 2 of my no longer wanted pocket guns (see lengthy separate thread) for a Springfield XDM9. Already have several full size 9mm guns incl. Glocks, CZ and Sigs. What sold me was a (rather superficial) first impression of the gun's cool looks along with the all the stuff that came in the case which incl. 2 19 round steel mags, dual mag carrying case, speed loader, a paddle holster as well as a couple grip inserts. All for about $580 at my local gun shop.

The guns shoots really nicely and I also like the trigger pull a lot better than my Glock 19. All in all a happy camper, this gun deserves a lot more positive press than it has been getting.

http://picturearchive.auctionarms.com/5673102214/9597125/xdm9.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg

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Japle
June 5, 2011, 12:31 PM
I switched out my Glock 19, which I've carried daily for 6-7 years, for an XDm 3.8 9mm.
I'm really happy with it. It's more than accurate enough, holds 20 rounds and is very comfortable to carry.

I installed a JPoint sight and found that it works extremely well for fast shooting. I get significantly faster 1st shot hits and faster splits. The extra size isn't noticeable.

After trying a few paddle holsters, I tossed them in the holster box and went back to the one that came with the gun.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/Japle/Guns/XDmJPointandammo.jpg

the count
June 5, 2011, 12:54 PM
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I installed a JPoint sight and found that it works extremely well for fast shooting. I get significantly faster 1st shot hits and faster splits. The extra size isn't noticeable.



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I had a Leupold DeltaPoint 7.5 MOA that I tried on several of my pistols. To be honest, even at 10-15 yards the groups were not better (5"-10") than without the sight. Same results with a 9mm and 45 sig. Bought it because I am near sighted and have problems aiming. Sold it recently. How well does the J Point work for you and why did you get it?

PabloJ
June 5, 2011, 01:56 PM
When it was called 2000 something they could not even move them for $250. That topper ware box with contents up there is worth about $400 max. When one considers it's made in Croatia the price tag on new ones in local shop was a shock to me.

rifleman14
June 5, 2011, 02:01 PM
Sure wish I could find a new XDM9 for under $400!

the count
June 5, 2011, 02:51 PM
When it was called 2000 something they could not even move them for $250. That topper ware box with contents up there is worth about $400 max. When one considers it's made in Croatia the price tag on new ones in local shop was a shock to me.
ummm, please provide a list of guns like the xdm9 for $400....

ps and i own hk, sigs and other higher priced pistols. the xdm9 is a fair deal.

wbwanzer
June 5, 2011, 08:48 PM
I'm a big fan. Mine has been totally trouble free. I've added TruGlo FO sights and X-Treme rubberized grip inserts (second picture). It has become the 9mm that goes to the range with me the most often.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wbwanzer/SpringfieldXDm001.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wbwanzer/xtremegrip001.jpg

CZ57
June 5, 2011, 09:06 PM
If it had a bigger grip I would own one too. But wait, that's why I have the .45 version!;)

frankge
June 5, 2011, 11:52 PM
I won one at Area 6 and I am very happy with it! I shoot a G34 in matches so this is one of my home defense/backpack guns now.

WRGADog
June 6, 2011, 10:15 AM
I have 3, 40 cal, 9mm, and 9mm 3.8. These guns are fun to shoot, great capacity, reliable, easy to maintain, and accurate. I couldn't be happier with mine. I will likely add a 45 anc compact 9 to my collection before too long. Enjoy your XDM.

BRE346
June 6, 2011, 10:41 AM
Springfield makes good stuff. I made a deal on an XD-9 Service just before Springfield came out with the XDm. Maybe they'll let me trade.

InkEd
June 6, 2011, 11:28 AM
Yep, I like the XD too.

REAPER4206969
June 6, 2011, 11:32 AM
Springfield makes good stuff.

"Springfield Armory" Doesn't really make anything; HS Produkt (Croatia) and IMBEL (Brazil) do.

Japle
June 6, 2011, 03:37 PM
Posted by the count:
I had a Leupold DeltaPoint 7.5 MOA that I tried on several of my pistols. To be honest, even at 10-15 yards the groups were not better (5"-10") than without the sight. Same results with a 9mm and 45 sig. Bought it because I am near sighted and have problems aiming. Sold it recently. How well does the J Point work for you and why did you get it?

I was a little suprised that my slow-fire groups weren't any better with the JPoint over the factory iron sights, but that wasn't why I use it. I'm not really concerned about shooting super tight groups, I'm interested in getting rounds on target as fast as possible.

In a gunfight, pinpoint accuracy isn't going to be in the cards. The strong tendency for amlost everyone is to focus on the target (the guy who's trying to kill you and probably isn't just standing there making a big fat target of himself) and not on the front sight. Since the JPoint dot is in the same focal plane as the target, that potential problem is eliminated.

Watch the shooters at a steel match. They're not interested in hitting the center of the target, they want to get hits ASAP. The best scores are made by the "Open" class shooters with the dot sights.

Glockeroo
June 6, 2011, 07:02 PM
Nice purchase!

traveling1253
June 6, 2011, 09:04 PM
I've got the 3.8" in .40s&W. The XDm is just a great gun and a blast to shoot. Zero malfunctions no matter what I feed it for ammo, from low power plinking handloads to hot hollowpoint defense rounds. Enjoy.

Apocalypse-Now
June 6, 2011, 09:13 PM
gun's cool looks along with the all the stuff that came in the case which incl.

the holster/mag pouches are cheap trinkets to dazzle perspective buyers. same garbage that came with my springfield 1911's lol

if you try to use them, they pull away from your body and flop around lol

PO2Hammer
June 6, 2011, 09:15 PM
Every XD I've fired has impressed me. I would love to try an XDm.

Japle
June 6, 2011, 09:56 PM
Posted by Apocalypse-Now:
the holster/mag pouches are cheap trinkets to dazzle perspective buyers. same garbage that came with my springfield 1911's lol

if you try to use them, they pull away from your body and flop around lol

I have not found that to be the case at all. I tried paddle holsters by Blade-Tech and Comp_tac and didn't like either one of them. The stock XD paddle holds the gun right where I want it, tight to my side, and the holster is just as good today as it was when I started wearing it (daily) months ago.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/Japle/Guns/WJPointinholster.jpg

Apocalypse-Now
June 6, 2011, 10:11 PM
^^oh i didn't know they came with paddles. the xd i used to own, and the SA 1911's i still have didn't have paddle holsters. just belt loop ones.

must be an xdm thing. glad you like it :)

Minnesota Wild
June 6, 2011, 11:40 PM
I love my XDm 40. I like the gear that came with it so much I stopped using some dedicated stuff for IPSC (most importantly the holster, which is one of the favorite I own for any gun). The gun will shoot ~2" at 25 yards, though the factory trigger makes doing so hard. With the Powder River kit, the gun shoots much better.

All in, I'm a happy guy. The gun is worth every penny.

Wicked1911
June 6, 2011, 11:53 PM
I have to agree- the looks of the gun are also a nice perk. I swapped out my G17 for the original XD 40 and have been extremely happy with the change. I was a big glock fan until I started playing with the XD series at the range.

basicblur
June 7, 2011, 12:40 AM
the holster/mag pouches are cheap trinkets to dazzle perspective buyers.
I'm with you on this. I own a couple of XDs (a pre-Melonite XDSC40 and XDSC9), the second of which came with all the 'extras'-I'd been much happier paying a few bucks less for just the gun.

Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel (or if you do, at least make it better), they should have just tossed in an UpLULA instead of the XD loader. Iff'n I'm not mistaken, to their credit, S&W has done so with their M&P packages.
I can't tell you where my XD loader is now-think it's probably in my loader box...right next to my holster box! :banghead:
Best double mag pouch I've tried has been the DeSantis leather models-they're smaller than many as they have more of a 'shrink wrap' fit than most leather pouches I've seen (tried Galco and High Noon). I prefer dual vertical holders instead of the angled unit with the XD.

I'm not much on Kydex and paddle holsters-I guess they have their place, but I still prefer leather holsters with belt loops.

I might rename the thread-maybe leave out the 'M'? :uhoh:
I've steered a number of new shooters to the XD9-I point out the worst thing 'bout 'em to me is the thickness, and unless you really need the interchangeable backstraps (I don't), I'd pass on the M line.

Looks are subjective (I like the regular line better), but I've always thought the match grade barrel a bit too much marketing.
As darn accurate as the regular XDs are, I wonder if the match grade barrel makes any difference at all, 'specially if you're using it as a SD weapon.

Apocalypse-Now
June 7, 2011, 01:41 AM
I'm with you on this. I own a couple of XDs (a pre-Melonite XDSC40 and XDSC9), the second of which came with all the 'extras'-I'd been much happier paying a few bucks less for just the gun.

that's what i was implying too.

i'd rather have paid less for my springfield armory 1911's without the cheap gear. either that or keep the same price and stick an extra mag in instead of the cheap plastic crap.

they all came with belt loop plastic ones that are unusable. one of my 1911's won't even fit in one because it's warped lol

Whiskey11
June 7, 2011, 03:02 PM
I love my XD45 Tactical :) 3120 rounds since March 3rd 2011 and only 6 failure to feeds due to burrs on bullets preventing full chambering without a love tap, 0 failure to fires, 0 failures to extract. Finish looks just as good as the day I bought it and the trigger is nice and repeatable and it's accurate too :)

I have to disagree on the loader, I find it is quicker than not using one. Just set the bottom of the magazine on your knee or the table or something solid and just push it to the back of the magazine with your thumb and push down on the loader, then repeat. Works real slick considering it came with the gun.

I don't use the holster or the mag holders but I'd be willing to use the mag holders in a competition environment compared to my Safariland Duty holder simply because it's faster. My only complaint with the mag holder is that the magazines sit back to back (or is it front to front) You CAN insert one of them so that it sits in the same direction but it is not as secure.

basicblur
June 7, 2011, 06:14 PM
I have to disagree on the loader, I find it is quicker than not using one.
Well that's faint praise indeed! :D
No doubt it's better than not using one, but it's not nearly as nice/EZ as the UpLULA, 'specially when you get down to that last hard to load round.
As a bonus, the UpLULA fits a wide range of magazines.

They shoulda done as S&W M&P and tossed in an UpLULA, but that might have costs 'em a few cents/dollars more, and no doubt the bean counters made this decision.

Whiskey11
June 7, 2011, 09:57 PM
I guess I haven't had any issues with mine on my XD45. Works great and no issues even for the last round.

Different strokes I guess.

rich642z
June 8, 2011, 09:59 PM
Are these xdms hard to conceal depends on caliber???

KAS1981
June 8, 2011, 11:49 PM
They are not a small gun by any means.

MJ_ATL
June 9, 2011, 12:06 AM
Shot an XDM in 9mm today at the range on a curious whim after the guy behind the counter showed me one the other day. First, I'm a die hard Sig guy and second I generally hate plastic guns but... I really enjoyed shooting the XDM9 and after the first couple of rounds which were off target the other 13 rounds in the first magazine were all in a nice tight group. I've always just avoided it since I thought it would feel like a Glock to me. I was wrong. I may have to trade my P239 for one of these since I don't carry it anymore.

5-SHOTS
June 9, 2011, 05:26 PM
I can't see how a S.A. XDm could be considered underrated...I wish to have one in the next future.

lucky-gunner
June 9, 2011, 05:53 PM
I would argee that the XDM isn't underrated. SA has a great marketing team taht makes sure you know that the XDM is a good pistol :D . Saying that I have a full size 9mm and 40 S&W XDM and a pre melonite xd9sc. I definitely think they are worth the price. For me they are the best fitting polymer handgun.

rellascout
June 9, 2011, 06:02 PM
No its the same Croatian pistol it has always been. :scrutiny: These days its just more extreme!!!!!

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/handguns/croatia/1287746485.jpg

basicblur
June 9, 2011, 06:08 PM
I can't see how a S.A. XDm could be considered underrated
I think the XD line was formerly underrated-maybe not so much today-it just took a while for folks that didn't do their homework (and lovers of another certain brand) to catch up or admit it appears to be quality hardware?

Actually (flame suit on), I kinda think the M line is overrated.
While there are a few features some may need (interchangeable backstraps?) and looks are a subjective 'thang, I prefer the regular XD line.

snooperman
June 9, 2011, 06:19 PM
How easy is it to rack the slide in the 3.8" barrel compact model ? Also I have seen some compacts with a shorter grip, but also some with longer grips. Are there two grip frames for the compact ?

basicblur
June 9, 2011, 06:31 PM
Are there two grip frames for the compact?
I'm assuming what you've seen are the short mag/long mag that come with the gun. 'Course, this was the case with my sub-compacts-you'll have to do your homework on what comes in the box of the particular model you're interested in.

I carry mine with the short mag, but added a Pearce Grip Extender (http://www.pearcegrip.com/Products/Springfield%20Armory/PG-XD) (I really hate a danglin' pinky).
I carry one or two of the long mags as spares-I figure if I ever need to change mags (malfunction aside), I've wandered into sumpin' really deep and would probably want all the ammo I can get! :eek:

Ala Dan
June 9, 2011, 06:48 PM
Greetings All-

From my experience, I have found that both the Springfield Armory XD's
and XDm's are well suited, quality polymer framed sidearms. I have an
original XD 4" service length in .45 ACP; and just love it. Some say, the
SA guns have too high a bore axis; but being a .45 caliber SIG-SAUER
shooter for all the past years, only helps me shoot the XD well. Matter
of fact, I shoot the XD better than I ever did any of my previously owned
Glocks (17, 23, or 27). Sorry, but I'm on a different computer system,
and have not learned how too post pics~! :uhoh: ;)

Japle
June 9, 2011, 08:13 PM
Posted by Rich:
Are these xdms hard to conceal depends on caliber???

My XDm 3.8 9mm with the full-size grip is about the same size as a Glock 17.

It's not small, but I don't see that as a problem and I only weigh 142 lbs.

harmon rabb
June 10, 2011, 02:42 PM
I can't see how a S.A. XDm could be considered underrated...I wish to have one in the next future.

I actually think the M's are overrated. I don't see the price difference over the regular XD's to be worth it, especially in 45acp where there is no gain in mag capacity.

Whiskey11
June 10, 2011, 02:51 PM
Harmon there is one very good reason to buy an XDm in .45 over a standard XD and that is the ability to safely and reoiably feed SWC bullets. The match grade barrel and the backstraps are also a bonus if the standard does not fit as well or shoot as well as you would like. The XDm looks leave a little to be desired but that is a very very minor point.

Big_John1961
June 10, 2011, 03:22 PM
The count, congrats on the new piece. Do you XD owners have any gripes about the grip safeties, or is it a non-issue?

harmon rabb
June 10, 2011, 03:53 PM
The grip safety is nice for reholstering, and you do not notice it when holding or shooting the gun. It's extremely nonintrusive.

basicblur
June 10, 2011, 04:02 PM
Do you XD owners have any gripes about the grip safeties, or is it a non-issue?
Not only is it a non-issue, I find it a desirable feature (passive safety).
Despite all the ballyhoo 'bout Safe Action Triggers etc, to me, any time you have a 'safety' on the same part/same location that makes the gun go boom you're asking for trouble (drawstrings, retention straps, errant fingers).
Don't forget ole Plaxico! :D

We also had a retired PD detective (who was also a PD firearms instructor) that did the same thing in a restaurant. He was Mexican carrying, and when he got up from the table reached down to cinch his pants and... :uhoh: He had been warned by the local gun shop it probably wasn't a wise idea to be carrying that way.
Managed to injure a few patrons at the eatery with shrapnel from the round hitting the floor.

Isaac-1
June 20, 2011, 03:01 PM
I know I am a little late to this conversation, but I just bought my XDM-9 at a gun show on Saturday. Keeping in mind I have only fired a hundred or so rounds through it in one session yesterday, it does seem to be very good gun, my only gripe is I wish the trigger pull was better, I will probably go with an aftermarket upgrade. As to the questions about the gun, the mag loader is not bad, certainly better than loading by hand, like others have said it was probably a bean counter decision, it may be low cost, but is not cheap. It is built out of sturdy plastic, has a spring loaded release button and rail clip (the only moving part)on side to mount as an accessory on the mag holder, not a bad freebee. I would rather they included it than an uplula that many people may already own, as I suspect its production cost is a fraction of the uplula's. On the topic of the grip safety, I don't see what there is to complain about (implementation, not concept) , it is perfectly molded to the frame, light spring tension, you almost don't know it is there, much less obtrusive than on the 1911.

Whiskey11
June 20, 2011, 03:38 PM
I would just like to point out that my new M92A1's "speed loader" is a flimsy piece of TRASH. So much so I made a part to adapt my XD's loader for the 9mm magazines and boy is it much nicer. So I'd say, us XD owners should count our blessings that we got one as nice as it is. I mean it's missing the part that pushes the bullet in from the UpLula loader but it's essentially built the same.

Dnaltrop
June 20, 2011, 03:50 PM
The only reason I don't have one now... The M&P lacked the XD's annoying (to me) Cocking indicator sticking out the back. Utterly subjective. The gun at the store felt good in my hand and pointed well otherwise. The few I've fired at the range when guns are being passed around for "show and tell" have functioned flawlessly.

Extra "stuff" short of additional magazines is NEVER a factor for my purchases, in fact it often detracts from the gun itself for me. (Something for nothing? what is it REALLY costing me ... pardon me, My tinfoil hat appears to need smoothing)

basicblur
June 20, 2011, 04:42 PM
I would just like to point out that my new M92A1's "speed loader" is a flimsy piece of TRASH. So much so I made a part to adapt my XD's loader for the 9mm magazines and boy is it much nicer.
And if they'd just tossed in an UpLULA, you probably wouldn't have had to modify your XD loader to fit your other magazine.

So I'd say, us XD owners should count our blessings that we got one as nice as it is.
I guess your glass is half full-mine is half empty.
I don't count my blessings for the XD loader (which is buried in my not quite ready for prime time loader box)-I wish they had just tossed in an UpLULA, or lowered the price.

I mean it's missing the part that pushes the bullet in from the UpLula loader but it's essentially built the same.
Well that little part that pushes the bullet is the main feature (along with fitting a wide variety of magazines)! :confused:

Whiskey11
June 20, 2011, 05:57 PM
basicbur that is your call, I don't find it inconvenient to push the bullet in by hand as apposed to by using a separate part of the loader. It's nice to have considering I don't have an UpLula to use. Yeah, the universal nature of the UpLula is nice, but the "modification" I had to do was add a spacer to the front and it is completely removable. It is what it is and it came with my gun. If it wasn't there I wouldn't have complained about it, but since it is there and it works consistently and isn't utter trash like my Beretta's is I tend to find it useful.

Here, I'll let you decide: In the realm of "Free" here is two different interpretations of an efficient magazine loader. The XD's is obvious, it's big and bulky, the Beretta loader is thinner but look at the differences:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/whiskey_11/IMG_2014.jpg

See the metal part that is shaped like ], it is just a spacer to force the magazine to the back of the loader. This works very well for the M92 magazines and is removable for XD45 mags.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/whiskey_11/IMG_2013.jpg

You can see in the above photo how the bar fits in the XD loader.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/whiskey_11/IMG_2016.jpg

In this photo you can see how SMALL the Beretta loader's plunger is. Why does it matter? Well, the smaller Beretta plunger allows the round's nose to go skyward and requires you to force the nose of the top round in the magazine down when you load the second one. The "modified" XD loader does not have this issue.

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