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colt1911fan
June 6, 2011, 06:01 PM
So i finally broke down and decided to go through the process to get one of the CMP garands. It appeals to me that i dont have to go through an FFL to receive the rifle and it gets shipped right to my door. I called and since I'm a current military member and currently deployed, i dont have to get the paper work notarized i just have to send in a picture of my military ID have my commander sign it and take a picture of his military ID. I'm hoping this is going to be a simple process but trying not to be to optimistic :mad: as it is dealing with a government organization :banghead: basically what im getting at here is what exactly are you supposed to put on the order form under the item/quantity information block because i dont want to get it wrong and have it sent back because mail takes for ever to get here any tips and information would be much appreciated with anybodys experience with the CMP program.

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aka108
June 6, 2011, 06:21 PM
Quantity is 1 or whatever number of these rifles you are ordering. Go to the CMP web site, then to sales and you will see the various arms available by grade and mfg. Use the item number. The in the body of the form indicate "Service grade HRA" or whatever grade and mfg you are ordering. Then put any special wishes you might have in that area of the form to, like "good bore, please" and then a "thank you" Funny but I have ordered 2 rifles at different times and either I've been damn lucky in getting what I asked for or someone actually read that short note on the form. Stay safe, best wishes from old USN ret.

Demos
June 6, 2011, 06:21 PM
For the Item/Quantity info, go to http://odcmp.com/Sales/rifles.htm and look to see which grade and manufacture you would like for your rifle, then put the item # under the "item" column, what ever description it has, ie "M1 Garand, WRA (Winchester) Field Grade" under the "Item Description" column, and then how ever many of them as you would like under the quantity column. Don't forget to pick up a few spam cans of m2 ball while you are at it. It is the cheapest 30.06 you'll be able to find and you don't have to worry about it damaging your op rod, and you can get it packaged in en block clips. It's also shipped in a hard case now.
The CMP has some of the best customer service I have ever encountered. Sometimes they get a little backed up due to the shear volume of orders, but that is understandable considering the quality of product they are selling at the price they are doing it at. I ordered my first centerfire rifle, a service grade Springfield Armory Garand, from them and everything went perfectly. The rifle was better than the requirements for Service grade, and after cleaning a little bit of Cosmoline off it has been a great shooter (about 3 moa with HXP and 2ish if I can do my part with reloads). I've since gone out to the North store and ordered more through the mail and picked up many spam cans of HXP, while it was still 20 something cents a round, a few bayos, some AP, 2 M44's, one with iron sights and I mounted a scope on the other, and a sling. They claim to have a no return/no warranty implied or expressed but any time I've heard of something not being right, they have made it right. They are a great organization and when I have some more money, I'll be doing business with them again.

1KPerDay
June 6, 2011, 06:30 PM
Don't get stressed out... you're going to love it. The minor hassle of the paperwork is totally worth it the day the cardboard box shows up at your front door. :cool:

Chuck Dye
June 6, 2011, 07:37 PM
Stock up on ammo, it is unlikely to get cheaper.

I find my M1 way too much fun to shoot, wish I had bought all the ammo I could then afford.

Ah, coulda, shoulda, woulda, maybe, mighta.

Mals9
June 6, 2011, 10:53 PM
I put a small yellow sticky note on my order form requesting a WWII receiver. I got a '44 SA with a new birch stock and great metal. The average sight elevation for 100 yards is about 8 clicks up from bottom. Mine is only 2. I called the CMP to ask if this is anything to be concerned about. I was told that this would not be a problem but they sent me 2 additional rear sight apertures free just to make it "right" Can't beat that.

Mals

P-32
June 7, 2011, 01:40 AM
CMP M-1's are the best deal out there period. You will be glad you jumped through the hoops on this one. Others have offered good advice so far. By the way, all the BIG guns are in the NAVY!

Orlando
June 7, 2011, 09:11 AM
No hoops to jump through, just alittle paperwork.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/Garandlover/misc/MVC-008S-1.jpg

USSR
June 7, 2011, 10:50 AM
Orlando,

Looks like you are one short of a dozen. Better take care of that.;)

Don

Orlando
June 7, 2011, 12:14 PM
Ha, Actually I have ,thats a old picture. I think I'm up to 15 now and have two more to build one of these days as I collect parts

steven58
June 7, 2011, 01:04 PM
I found CMP to be a great experience. I asked for GI wood and got a virtually pristine M=0 T=2 rifle wit GI wood.

A Friend of mine ordered 10 and put a sticky on asking nicely for GI wood. His entire order of 10 rifles arrived with GI wood! the "worst" readings were a M=2 and T=3 but not on the same rifle.

1KPerDay
June 7, 2011, 01:17 PM
Awesome. I asked for GI wood every time but it took 3 tries to get one. but it's a good'n. :cool:

16in50calNavalRifle
June 8, 2011, 03:33 AM
Well this is as good a place as any to ask:

* does "GI wood" mean you're requesting a WWII stock?

* for throat/muzzle condition, would you ever specify a number, or is that just part of the luck of the draw?

* any other common or basic requests to make when ordering an M1? I assume it's best to limit yourself to one or two, and of course include a "thank you".

Thanks in advance for any input from seasoned CMP customers.

Double Vision
June 8, 2011, 06:58 AM
Good luck with your purchase.
You're going to enjoy being a CMP customer and Garand owner.

Orlando
June 8, 2011, 07:21 AM
USGI wood means WWII or Post War wood.You can ask but chances are you will get commercial wood on a Service Grade.
No need to ask for a TW, MW range as you will get the range in the grade youy order. The pickers will not go through and regauge rifles

Demos
June 8, 2011, 08:08 AM
I forgot to add one part. If you live in NJ and only NJ, you need to go through an FFL.

1KPerDay
June 8, 2011, 11:52 AM
16in50, FYI the military/GI wood (particularly post WWII ones) can be thicker/larger through the wrist/grip area than the new CMP/Boyd's/Whoever's stocks (though GI forends will likely be less proud around the handguards). Just FYI in case you have smaller hands you might actually find the new stocks more comfortable in that regard.

16in50calNavalRifle
June 8, 2011, 07:56 PM
Orlando and 1KPerDay, thanks for your replies.

colt1911fan
June 9, 2011, 04:58 PM
awesome posts thanks for the input do any of you guys have an item number for the M2 ball AMMO

Orlando
June 9, 2011, 05:02 PM
https://estore.odcmp.com/store/catalog/catalog.aspx?pg=catalogList&cat=AMC

colt1911fan
June 9, 2011, 05:20 PM
what did you have to get notarized im not sure if i need to get my military ID and drivers license plus the paper work please help me out i dont wanna send in the paper work and have it rejected because the i screwed up and have to start over
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stonecutter2
June 9, 2011, 05:48 PM
what did you have to get notarized im not sure if i need to get my military ID and drivers license plus the paper work please help me out i dont wanna send in the paper work and have it rejected because the i screwed up and have to start over
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I responded in another thread with your same question, but I'll paste it here too:

You only need to get page 2A notarized, and then it's good for 3 years worth of rifle purchases. 2A is the "Certification" page. It's mostly the usual gun purchase form type stuff. You have to have it notarized so that the CMP knows it was actually you that signed that document. After you first get it notarized, any subsequent orders can have the notarized part left blank until the 3 year timeframe is up so long as your ship to address and sold to address don't change. If you move or change addresses, you'll then need to get 2A notarized again if you order another rifle.

colt1911fan
June 9, 2011, 06:01 PM
thanks gys for all your input gonna mail out my forms on monday wish me luck

shrewd
June 9, 2011, 07:00 PM
i have a quick question. i think after i attend my first appleseed this weekend im going to reward myself (for getting that patch...right..?) with a cmp m-1

i live in philadelphia, and don't much enjoy the thought of having it shipped to my front door when i wouldnt be here to receive it, cant have it shipped to work (i work at a university...probably wouldnt fly) and anyone can tell you actually going to the post office in philadelphia can be... unpleasant.

is it possible to have it shipped somewhere else, say, my family's residence, even if they are out of state? (virginia)

Orlando
June 9, 2011, 07:05 PM
They will ship the rifle to what ever address you put on the form. There must be someone there over 21 years of age to sign for the shipment

shrewd
June 9, 2011, 09:25 PM
so there's no legal issue with having it shipped to another state than the one in which i reside?

if no, awesome! cant wait, which sucks, i cause i hear the turn around can be pretty rough

1KPerDay
June 9, 2011, 09:38 PM
pERSONally I'd have it shipped to where I live, where my documents say I live, etc.

steven58
June 9, 2011, 11:38 PM
Turn around is not that bad. I and four friends ordered within the last 6 months and the longest turn around on first time purchases was 35 days. My second order was at my door 27 days from when I mailed my order in.

FlyinBryan
June 9, 2011, 11:45 PM
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mstreddy
June 10, 2011, 10:41 AM
Shrewd,

CMP ships via FEDEX ground with adult signature required. They "should" not leave the package outside your door. If no one is home to receive and sign for it, then you would need to pick it up at the FEDEX hub near you after the failed delivery attempt.

There is nothing like the white truck of happiness dropping off a Garand or 2 at your door.

EM

colt1911fan
June 10, 2011, 01:48 PM
so i cant shoot commercial ammo out of a garand :banghead: no big deal M2 doesn't seem to hard to find :banghead:but ive been doing a little research on it and apparently it is possible to shoot commercial ammo you just have to get an adjustable gas screw is that true and where would i find one of these adjustable gas screws

docnyt
June 10, 2011, 01:54 PM
Brownells. Schuster I believe it's called. They have them for M1 and M1A so be careful what you put in your cart.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=20456/Product/ADJUSTABLE_GAS_SYSTEM

colt1911fan
June 10, 2011, 02:32 PM
thanks docnyt have you used them before and how hard is it to adjust and how do you know if its adjusted right

docnyt
June 10, 2011, 03:08 PM
Basically you open it all the way out then tighten it until the rifle cycles properly.

Hard to search on iPhone/ tapatalk but here's the first YouTube video hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFyUhSwIcMw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

colt1911fan
June 10, 2011, 04:02 PM
well thats not so complicated o and BTW docnyt nice chairbourne ranger decal gave me a good laugh

docnyt
June 10, 2011, 04:34 PM
No prob.

bearfoot
June 10, 2011, 04:48 PM
FlyinBryan, That rifle is gorgeous! I'm guessing it's *not* service grade, but what grade is it - collector? special?

FlyinBryan
June 10, 2011, 07:29 PM
thanks bearfoot. it is a service grade. 595 bux

its a 1944 springer, all correct except for an hra elevation knob and a winchester milled trigger gaurd.

we drove to the south store and picked out 2.

incredible shooters. each has fired an 8rd group that can be covered with a quarter @50yds (by my brother who seems to be the garand master around here.)

it is not uncommon to find service grades on the rack that look as good,,,, if not better than mine. (many are owned by members here)

bearfoot
June 10, 2011, 07:48 PM
Get OUT!
For some reason, I thought the service grade rifles would look more, um... experienced. To quote a certain Mr. Smith: "I have got to get me one of these!"

1KPerDay
June 10, 2011, 09:04 PM
Sometimes they do. The ones in new wood generally look very good.

Here are a couple of mine. both service grade HRAs, one in new CMP birch, the other in a very nice GI walnut.

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FlyinBryan
June 10, 2011, 09:14 PM
ya, 1k definitely has an extremely enviable collection.

p.s. i have decided to accept your pm'd offer of trading my birch for that walnut,,,,, you offered it 6 months ago, and forgot about it, you dont remember it, and we have both deleted the pm's regarding said transaction.

i'll pm you my shipping address
:D

P-32
June 10, 2011, 09:49 PM
I'm a little late on the GI wood comments but the only Service grade I've gotten so far without GI wood was a Winchester. No big deal though. I ordered a M-1 stock from E-Gun parts and I'll be darned if they did't send me a GI Winchester Stock. It ruined my plans at the time but made up for it when my S/G Winchester came in.

colt1911fan
June 11, 2011, 09:27 AM
i got all the paperwork filled out but does everyone have to pay sales tax or just Alabama and Ohio residents :confused:

61chalk
June 11, 2011, 10:37 AM
Colt, if you buy at the store, you pay their state tax...if you order by mail, you pay for rifle an shipping...thats it! Lots of guys out of state that visit the stores buy, but have them ship back to their homes, seems shipping is cheaper than the tax.....by the way are you from IN....?....INGO by chance?

lehcpa
June 11, 2011, 10:45 AM
so there's no legal issue with having it shipped to another state than the one in which i reside?

if no, awesome! cant wait, which sucks, i cause i hear the turn around can be pretty rough
I live in Arkansas and had my Garand shipped to my office in Tennessee. No problems at all.

colt1911fan
June 11, 2011, 01:54 PM
@61chalk no i dont live in Indiana but its one of those firearms friendly states id move to Im in Idaho

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