Trusty 1911 , Im sorry but.....


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Usmc-1
June 7, 2011, 08:55 AM
I have owned many other guns and many are still in the arsenal ! The one thing I constantly go back to is my trusty 1911 , I have many .40sw ,not a bad round ,have had 9's in the past fun to shoot I must say , but dont really do it for me ,anything below 9 is kinda a waste for me !

I have to say this as well "wheelguns" are different , so I wont say much more about them here !

I just think about all the cool guns out there and I always come back to the .45 acp , I know you guys can tell me where I went wrong but it wont matter , I plan on adding to my 1911 group , I also plan on adding a possibly a 9 (1911) ,but I cant ever get out the image when I went to the range (police) back in the early 90's , they all had 9's I had a .45 , now granted I had to reload 4 mags to there 2 on the combat course , but when they shot the metal targets all you heard was the sound of a little bullet bouncing off the target , when I shot ,you watched the metal target fall down , trust me ,I think I made believers of a few of those guys that day , but for me , it resonates always as to the stopping power of the 45 !

If you've ever been to a shooting with a 45 ,You'll notice the distinct difference between a 9 wound , not many people that get hit with a 45 have better days ahead them!

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Mad Magyar
June 7, 2011, 08:58 AM
I see your point, but many times we use the lesser calibers for different reasons. I like the feel of that thud with the .45, but I don't hesitate taking a .380 to my local "shop & rob"...

Jonah71
June 7, 2011, 11:15 AM
I like shooting my old 2003 Kimber 45acp more than any of my other pistols. And I'd shoot it more....but it's just a pain to break down and clean. I do plan on owning at least 2-3 1911's in the near future, I just can't seem to make up my mind what I want. I don't know that much about quality and prices. I don't want to go cheap because I don't want to buy anything I couldn't depend on for EDC. There is something about the 1911 that for some reason gives me more of a sense of security. They just feel good too.

Sniper X
June 7, 2011, 11:37 AM
I totally understand. I have either sold or traded pretty much every other hand gun I owned for 1911s or sold them and bought 1911s. I love and still have my 2.5in Python, and unless someone wants to trade me a super super nice hand done 1911 for it it is here for life, and I still have a nice little Bersa 380 I use for carry when in nice clothes, and a snubbie 38spl for times when I need even a smaller gun, but the 1911 is my daily carry whether a commander or a full size, and I shoot them more often than anything else I own. There is something about the 1911 that has to be in you that can't be described well enough to get the point across. It is for me a combination of a lot of things, ergos, looks, reliability, power, and history. Plus, since I hit everything I aim at with them that helps. The fact I trust my life every day to the 1911 should say something about me.

surjimmy
June 7, 2011, 12:25 PM
I believe....http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/surjimmy/IMG_2799.jpg

Smaug
June 7, 2011, 01:14 PM
I like 45 in general, not just the 1911 platform. As neat as 1911s are, there have been many worthy modern gun designs that chamber 45.

I agree regarding your knock-down power observation; I was shooting in an action shoot Sunday, and there were a few times that when the silhouettes were not hit in the right place, 9mm didn't knock them down. With 45, they were instantly down, no matter where they were hit. Before someone starts :cuss: I admit that doesn't necessarily mean it will knock a human down, but it is a harder hit, for sure.

But we should be fair and admit that with good ammo, 9mm is probably going to be enough medicine against a human attacker.

1KPerDay
June 7, 2011, 02:58 PM
surjimmy//

beautiful collection. tasteful

OldCavSoldier
June 7, 2011, 07:15 PM
I believe....http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/surjimmy/IMG_2799.jpg
Surjimmy! YOU DA' MAN!!

G27RR
June 7, 2011, 07:31 PM
I'm a 1911 fan too, but don't tell anyone, one of these is a 9mm.... :what:

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/1911Collection800600.jpg

Zerodefect
June 7, 2011, 09:34 PM
100 years later and none of the high tech new pistol types have a trigger that even comes close to a rattly old pot metal WW1 era 1911.

Only trigger better than the old 1911's........





.......is on a new 1911.

CZ223
June 8, 2011, 06:00 AM
about 18 years ago I swore I would never buy another. I now own 10 and there are two more on my must have list right now.:evil:

earlthegoat2
June 8, 2011, 07:52 AM
I have phases where I like 1911s and then I hate them for awhile.

CDW4ME
June 8, 2011, 08:15 AM
Last year I started messing around with a shot timer.
I would put a 6'' target at 6 yards and see how quickly I could double tap the 6'' circle, both shots had to hit the circle for the time to count.
The Glock 19 was my initial champ.
I wasn't "into" the 1911 platform, but decided to compare my Lightweight Commander and see how it would do.
To my utter suprise, the Lightweight Commander was able to match the Glock 19; no small feat considering the recoil difference, as measured by the PF formula.
I was impressed and began carrying a 1911 Lightweight Commander or Kimber compact since I could have a larger bullet with the same speed & accuracy (as demonstrated in my little test) as a smaller bullet.
I still carry my Glock, but it's typically a subcompact IBW appendix where the 4'' height of the subcompact is at a concealment premium.
For strong side IWB, I prefer the thinness of the 1911 and I prefer the grip.

Usmc-1
June 8, 2011, 08:40 AM
@ G27RR nice ! What is that in the bottom left corner , I really like that!

@ surjimmy , right on Devil Dog! I love the picture!

calaverasslim
June 8, 2011, 08:44 AM
In 1954, when my cousin came back from Korea, he brought a M1911. Don't know if he came back from Korea with it or bought it after he got to the states. I was 10 at the time and that was my introduction to the 1911. We gave it a workout and in 1962 when I enlisted in the Army, that is what we carried. When I retired in 84, I swore I would never own another 1911. Well, that lasted about 6 months.

I have 2, shoot them all the time, and thats the end of that tune

G27RR
June 8, 2011, 09:09 AM
@ G27RR nice ! What is that in the bottom left corner , I really like that!

Thanks, that's an STI Shadow and it's my daily carry. My signature has a link to a review I wrote about it. It was my first STI, and I eventually bought three more after having such a great experience with them.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/STIloadout2.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/STI%20Shadow%202krnds/STIShadoww2Krnds800600.jpg

Not the best picture but you can tell I've been carrying and shooting it often.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/STI%20Shadow/Shadowrtsideholsterwear.jpg

InkEd
June 8, 2011, 10:05 AM
I am the opposite of most 1911 guys. What I mean is that unlike most that start off with the trusty ol' war horse and then expand to other platforms/calibers, I never even cared about or used a 1911 for years.

I was always a fan of the wonder nines and ultra lightweight pistols. Then I decide to see what is up with all the hype. Long story. Short. I borrowed one. Then bought one. Still too heavy IMHO for CCW but greatest competition/target pistol ever.

Harley Quinn
June 8, 2011, 10:24 AM
In todays scenario IMHO...You are better off with Beretta 92 FS or similar...
High cap, lots of firepower, better for the avg. person to shoot:what:
You can feel all good about your 1911, but reality does suck...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_92
:D

45_auto
June 8, 2011, 10:38 AM
Guess that depends on what your scenario is.

The M9 is great for mass issue for minimal skill shooters, but you'll find that where the user has a choice, many times it's a 1911.

That's not reality sucking, that's your little bitty brain escaping into the vacuum between your ears .....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol

;)

group17
June 8, 2011, 10:45 AM
I must be the only person to not want or own a 1911.
I am totally happy with my 9's and 40 cal poly and metal (smaller pistols).
I'm also very happy to carry twice the rounds.

Don't get me wrong I was issued a 1911 for GQ in the service. Guaranteed I had a spot on a raft if the ship was going down or I wouldn't be the only one swimming.

I see lots of 1911 love out there.

Harley Quinn
June 8, 2011, 10:54 AM
That's not reality sucking, that's your little bitty brain escaping into the vacuum between your ears .....

:eek:

:what:

I'll go with what I have mentioned...The thread about LEO practice and shooting is confirmation enough for me...

:)

JustinJ
June 8, 2011, 11:22 AM
"now granted I had to reload 4 mags to there 2 on the combat course , but when they shot the metal targets all you heard was the sound of a little bullet bouncing off the target , when I shot ,you watched the metal target fall down"

But today we have .45 pistols that hold up to 16 rounds and are more reliable than a production 1911 could ever dream of being. Nostalgia aside i personally cant see the appeal of 1911 for practical use. They're neat and fun guns with great historic and collector value but for real world use i believe there time has come and gone.

45_auto
June 8, 2011, 01:32 PM
But today we have .45 pistols that hold up to 16 rounds and are more reliable than a production 1911 could ever dream of being. Nostalgia aside i personally cant see the appeal of 1911 for practical use.

What do you consider "practical"? Have you ever seen a 150 lb guy with one of those high cap .45's in an IWB holster under a t-shirt? It sticks out like a 3rd leg.

For practical concealed carry, a high cap .45 isn't very high on most people's list, but a thin 1911 in an IWB will hide under almost anything on anybody.

G27RR
June 8, 2011, 02:05 PM
For practical concealed carry, a high cap .45 isn't very high on most people's list, but a thin 1911 in an IWB will hide under almost anything on anybody.

That's how I see it, too, and why I carry a 1911 and leave the XD 45 Tactical at home on nightstand duty.

gathert
June 8, 2011, 03:25 PM
Some people just shoot certain guns better. For me, the gun that fits my hand the best is the 1911. I have normal sized hands and have to adjust my grip sometimes to work the slide release or mag release, but thats not a problem at all. I like my mag releases where God and John Moses Browning intended them to be, and the 1911 just fits. Its kinda like one of those things that just works but is hard to explain.

I've got a Kimber Tactical Custom II and an original 1911 that was made in 1918. I can shoot the Kimber better and decently fast, but the original 1911 feels better. Its heavy hitting on the recoil side, but thats part of what makes it feel so good to shoot.

Searcher4851
June 8, 2011, 03:52 PM
To Usmc-1
I also plan on adding a possibly a 9 (1911)

You might want to consider a 1911 in .38 super instead of the 9. It's a fine little round.
I too am a big fan of the 1911, have owned several over the years, still do, and always had at least one in .38 super.

BullfrogKen
June 8, 2011, 04:26 PM
It's pretty nice in 38 Super, too.

Harley Quinn
June 8, 2011, 04:43 PM
I have several 45 acp shooters...The 1911 is just not my favorite:what:

Have a G21, 1911 guy traded in for one... Nice target sights...Astra A 80 in 45 acp both 10 shot capacity :D

CDW4ME
June 9, 2011, 07:59 AM
For strong side IWB, I prefer the thinness of the 1911

I had not carried strong side IWB in weeks, just appendix IWB.
Day before yesterday, I carried my Glock 19 strong side IWB for several hours; yesterday, I put the Glock on again, then decided to switch and carry the Lightweight Commander. The difference in slimness was apparent, and I have the same exact holster for each a Blade-Tech UCH.

Usmc-1
June 9, 2011, 08:35 AM
Ya know its funny you should mention the .38 Super , I had a 1911 with 38 Super and I truley miss that gun , I wasnt planning on getting it initially but was told it was an above average Competition shooter ,and it was , I competed years ago with it ,not many in the field carried the 38 super except old guys who knew , they never really excepted me into there league , but hell I didnt care after beating them I didnt want in!!

Your right though ,I may very well look into that , if theres a Commanders model (size0 in 38 super it might be worth a look!

JustinJ
June 9, 2011, 08:38 AM
"What do you consider "practical"? Have you ever seen a 150 lb guy with one of those high cap .45's in an IWB holster under a t-shirt? It sticks out like a 3rd leg."

I personally don't feel the 1911 to be easily concealable given the long length and i think the .357 sig more than adequate with higher capacity. But the original post wasn't about CC but seemed to me to say the 1911 is superior because it fires the .45.

Usmc-1
June 9, 2011, 09:00 AM
no Justin , personal preference in my case would mean the .45 is the best round , I never said anything about the .357 sig round , although it isnt a bad round , I think a .40 would be just as adequate , granted if you get into all the rounds and specifics , you can make a 357 sig into a 45 acp through specs (I just dont think the bullet has enough stopping power) , sure it can go faster!

JustinJ
June 9, 2011, 10:08 AM
I didnt' mean to imply the .357 sig is superior to the .45. I'm not saying it is or isn't however i think both are adequate for CC. There are probably certain shots where one would prove more lethal than the other and others of vice versa. I primarily carry it because i like the added capacity it affords me plus i absolutely love my HKP2000sk. On my nightstand however is Glock 21SF with +P JHP.

1911Tuner
June 9, 2011, 10:10 AM
Why is ever'body so fascinated with capacity? Y'all plan on missin' a lot?

Harley Quinn
June 9, 2011, 12:43 PM
Why is ever'body so fascinated with capacity? Y'all plan on missin' a lot?

I feel it is important...

For example when going for a bug I chose the 6 shot rather than the 5 in 38's...Was told, early as probationer, by one who was extremly lucky to have 6, rather than 5, last shot was the one that counted:uhoh:

I feel the 9mm in todays world of high cap is best for LEO... Double action first shot, couple of mags loaded, 3 times the ammo we had in 60's and 70s when carrying a 6 shot revolver...
We had the Ithaca M 37 with us at all times :D

Guess it would be considered my security blanket now:D Just my opinion:)

Snowdog
June 9, 2011, 12:55 PM
I have two 1911s, a "his and hers". I really don't know how this happened as I thought they were both mine. I guess I shouldn't have dressed up my Kimber, but that's the way it goes I guess.
I can't complain though, she shoots both of these quite well. I'd much rather she call one of them hers than shying away from either.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/2418325594_50ccc0ce7e_z.jpg

Searcher4851
June 9, 2011, 01:11 PM
Why is ever'body so fascinated with capacity? Y'all plan on missin' a lot?

ROFLMAO Good one.
Bein an older fella, and a cheap one to boot, I reckon I just learned early on to make my shots count. (hunting with a muzzle loader kinda inclined me that way as well)

If you look at the history of combat since the advent of firearms, there's a steady increase in round count per kill, as the weapon's ammo capacity has increased. I don't know if it's cause and effect or not, but I have my suspicions.

Chris Rhines
June 9, 2011, 01:14 PM
Why is ever'body so fascinated with capacity? Y'all plan on missin' a lot? Yeah, I kinda am. In gunfights, people miss. Or people don't get that perfect center hit, and have to shoot the bad guy a few more times.

-C

Searcher4851
June 9, 2011, 01:23 PM
If I'm shootin a bad guy, I'm not shootin for points so i don't really care about that "perfect center hit", I'm more interested in stopping him. If I can't stop him with a few hits from my .45, then he's probably gonna be REALLY ticked off, and kill me anyhow by then.

gathert
June 9, 2011, 01:58 PM
If you run out of ammo, guns make nice weights to hit someone with. So at least you still have something heavy to rely on if you run out of ammo.

JustinJ
June 9, 2011, 02:49 PM
"Why is ever'body so fascinated with capacity? Y'all plan on missin' a lot?"

It always fascinates me that people believe that shooting abilities at a one way range from a line directly in front of a stationary piece of paper will be anything like a real life event. Not only may you be receiving incoming fire your target, and probably you too, are likely to be in movement unlike that piece of paper that you neutralized at the range. Training certainly helps reduce the loss of accuracy but even if you throw different training methods in there you still have no idea how you will react in a real life situaiton until it happens. Not to mention that one could be forced to shoot from akward positions behind cover or even while injured.

GunBugBit
June 9, 2011, 05:14 PM
The 1911 the king of handguns and will remain so, in part because a well tuned 1911 trigger is breathtaking.

Usmc-1
June 9, 2011, 07:49 PM
Well Justin, thats a perfect explanation of why you need to practice and do so in real life situtations, you wont get that at the range , and the bambi lovers have made it almost impossible to shoot in fields or the desert (california) !

Harley you know why they have hi caps in police agencies ? As far as the 45 goes , its like any others if you practice you will get better , you may only need the 7 rounds of you 45 , but I would have to agree having 14 is awefully nice , I mean 7 is fine for one bad guy , but if you throw in 2-3 of his friends those extra rounds come in handy and Justin is right , they move ,you move , if you can tag all three with the first three rounds more power to you!

1911Tuner
June 9, 2011, 08:31 PM
Y'all must get into a lotta runnin' gunfights.

Nushif
June 9, 2011, 10:09 PM
If you look at the history of combat since the advent of firearms, there's a steady increase in round count per kill, as the weapon's ammo capacity has increased. I don't know if it's cause and effect or not, but I have my suspicions.

They're wrong. We call it "suppressive fire."

Tomcat47
June 9, 2011, 10:58 PM
Why is ever'body so fascinated with capacity? Y'all plan on missin' a lot?

...............:cool:.............Just plain :cool:

I Actually Love 1911's.........not the best carry choice for me maybe, but I have not gotten a compact .45 yet either.

Love the platform,They feel wonderful, love to shoot them, love the caliber as well.

Love the 9mm cartridge! Always have always will!

Love my Beretta 92, Love my Taurus variants as well if not more than Beretta (they knew where the safety belongs) ;)

Have tried many different carry firearms in many different calibers....just this past week, looking for a compact 9....I changed my whole attitude and while looking at several c9's....the old tested and true snub nose caught my eye!

I left with a compact 9 in a Taurus M905...5 shots a plenty! And I also picked up a Model 85 in .38 Spl. 5 Shot for the misses! :D

I finally decided Less is sometimes more, and it is Self Defense not Warfare!

And I used to have a S&W 625 in .45 ACP....Loved that gun! I dont think it would qualify for compact carry, but man that gun was nice! And I am keeping my eyes open for a Tracker .455 or another 625 if price is good!
Just now learned that Taurus made a .45 ACP revolver..

Probably not a small frame though...

Ridgerunner665
June 9, 2011, 11:15 PM
I still love my 1911...even though I have been carrying a G36 for a few months now (that effectively knocks me out of the hi-cap crowd :))

And the 45acp...kinda like the 45-70, it may be old...but its still around because it works.

bubbacrabb
June 10, 2011, 12:25 AM
They all have their place in my gun safe. They all have their places in different scenarios. All of them can perform about the same job. Its the training that is important to me. You can go out and be more lethal with a s&w Sigma if you're well trained, than a person that never trains with a les baer. I love my 1911s, love my polymer frames, love my revolvers. Also note, that the FBI tactical division carrys Les Baer 1911s. So its not like LEO's dont carry 1911 anymore. This is kind of like a chevy is better than ford. Sure they're both reliable and can do basically do the same things, they just look a little different. Dont mean that one is bad though.

Snowdog
June 10, 2011, 01:21 AM
I finally decided Less is sometimes more, and it is Self Defense not Warfare!


That's my thinking whenever I carry my P64. It's only a 9x18 and a 6+1 capacity at that. Though I'm sure my tactics would reflect these limitations should I ever need a pistol in a defensive situation.

CDW4ME
June 10, 2011, 08:11 AM
One can / could carry an extra magazine if the 6+1 of a Glock 36 or 7+1 of a Kimber Compact / Ultra / standard 1911 magazine isn't considered sufficient. ;)

Ridgerunner665
June 10, 2011, 08:57 AM
I carry 3 spare mags for the Glock 36.... if 25 rounds won't get me out of trouble I'm in over my head anyway.

45_auto
June 10, 2011, 12:59 PM
One can / could carry an extra magazine if the 6+1 of a Glock 36 or 7+1 of a Kimber Compact / Ultra / standard 1911 magazine isn't considered sufficient.

We were taught that one should always carry a spare mag for any auto pistol.

A double feed jam requires both hands to manipulate the slide to clear the jam. Fastest way to get back into action is to chunk the existing mag, clear the action, then go to the back-up mag.

We were always taught "Lock-Rip-Rack-Rack-Rack-Tap-Rack-Bang".

LOCK slide back
RIP mag out (it won't fall free, will be jammed in by second round not clearing feed lips)
RACK slide 3 times to clear action
TAP new mag into place
RACK slide to chamber round
BANG you're back in the fight

Harley Quinn
June 10, 2011, 01:06 PM
So many variables, so little time to explain to others if they can not comprehend the need for high cap and extra mags, if working in the field of LEO:confused:

:D

JustinJ
June 10, 2011, 01:32 PM
""Well Justin, thats a perfect explanation of why you need to practice and do so in real life situtations"

Uh, my post specifically said that its not plausible, for civilians anyways, to train for all potentinal real life situations. I dont know about anyone else but i sure aint gona train for the "shooting back while in agony from a gunshot wound" scenario no matter what. Yes, i train as i have no doubt it will certainly improve my performance in a real life event. But good ammunition and increased capacity will also increase my chances.

Usmc-1
June 10, 2011, 02:56 PM
why wouldnt it plausible? do you think the gang bangers dont train? Im sorry but if your an enforcer in a gang (they train alot) , maybe the average dumb s_ _ t with a doo rag doesnt but neither does the average cop , I personally believe real world tactics are what save lives , not shooting at paper targets , I couldnt careless how many bullseyes you get , practice "centermass" and with that I mean a target of a man , use barricades ,cars if accessable , outdoor training is the best! Hell if you can find old Manniquins they work even better , because most of us dont have flat bellys , if you hit a target (paper) on the side , more than likely that would be a miss on a human!

JustinJ
June 10, 2011, 03:16 PM
Why wouldn't it be plausible to have somebody shoot at me while i train so i can practice for incoming fire? Because that's not safe. Why wouldn't it be plausible to shoot myself in the dominant hand so i can practice shooting with my left while i'm in extreme pain? Because that would be crazy.

I fully agree, train as much as possible in as many different ways as possible but one can't truly simulate a real life firefight so one will really never know how he will react unless it happens. That is why i dont care for comments like "it doesn't matter what caliber you carry, just hit em in the head" or "if you need more than seven rounds, blah, blah".

KAS1981
June 10, 2011, 04:57 PM
I really like 1911's, but I wouldn't call myself a fanboy or a die-hard by any means. I have one, and that's fine. I don't really want a whole collection of them.

However, I've yet to handle any firearm that feels & aims as natural as my 1911. It just feels.......right.

Heretic
June 10, 2011, 07:30 PM
Once had a Star model B that I had recut to .38 super. Worked great and I loved it.

As far as highcap.......well if I can't kill it with 8 rounds of .45, I don't deserve to be it's master.

Casefull
June 10, 2011, 09:16 PM
What good does high capacity do if you cannot shoot...it only provides a false sense of security in that if you pull the trigger more times the other guy will be afraid to shoot back or you might get lucky. How about one or two well placed shots. That is the good thing about hunting. You soon find out about follow up shots. They seldom occur. I knew a guy who held up a soldering gun cause he wanted to get shot. The swat officer obliged him with a long burst from an MP5. The guy was hit with 15 rounds and was all tore up but he was young and strong and is alive and seeking damages against the city. One center mass shot would have done more.

RugerMcMarlin
June 11, 2011, 03:42 AM
Don't be sorry Marine. It shows you have excellent reasoning skills, SF

shiftyer1
June 11, 2011, 05:40 AM
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt227/shiftyer1/IMAG0036.jpg
here ya go, I found the answer to your capacity problem

Usmc-1
June 11, 2011, 08:49 AM
if its .45 acp I want one!!! Except thats liable to be heavy as hell!

Zerodefect
June 11, 2011, 09:48 AM
I haven't seen any .45 hold more than 8-9 rounds and be CCW friendly. Glock, 1911, Sig, whatever.

So if you want to carry the best round, then you have to reload. Big deal. A 10round 1911 mag carries better than a 15round Glock 22 mag (that is only .40) as long as you use good mag holders like Raven Concealment.

I carry a 7 rounder in my 1911, with a 10 or two for reloading. Sometimes I'll carry a Glock 23 instead. But that's rarely based on capacity woes.

When I do choose the Glock usually it's because of weather, salt, or I want a faster easier Draw speed that day. Usually I don't carry a reload for the Glock, or at least I don't carry a reload on my belt.

18 rounds total is plenty.

People that get hung up on capacity need to get some formal training. Check out TDI Ohio or Magpul Dynamics.

Autolycus
June 12, 2011, 03:15 PM
I prefer the Glock for carry as it is a lighter gun. However I do love the trigger on the 1911. Either gun would be a fine choice in a defensive gun. Capacity is nice on the Glock and it is one of the nice benefits of the Glock lineup.

1858
June 12, 2011, 10:50 PM
I like shooting my old 2003 Kimber 45acp more than any of my other pistols. And I'd shoot it more....but it's just a pain to break down and clean.

I find 1911s very easy and fast to break down and clean whether they're the FL or standard guide rod varieties. I like the fact that I can remove every part in under five minutes and that includes the hammer, sear, disconnector, trigger, firing pin/spring, extractor etc.


But today we have .45 pistols that hold up to 16 rounds and are more reliable than a production 1911 could ever dream of being. Nostalgia aside i personally cant see the appeal of 1911 for practical use. They're neat and fun guns with great historic and collector value but for real world use i believe there time has come and gone.

Add me to the list of those that think capacity is overrated. 8+1 in the pistol plus two or three 8-round spare magazines is quite enough for me. Even 7+1 and two or three 7-round magazines is fine.

I don't own an unreliable 1911 and would trust my life to any of them. I shot a 2-gun match a few months ago, and when it was over, wanted to use up some remaining ammunition to see how the pistol functioned out of position. I shot 139 rounds in under ten minutes after 300+ match rounds with no issues and no cleaning. The Kimber worked the way it always does ... with 100% reliability. I wanted to test the WC magazines and see if they worked with the pistol rotated 90, 180 and 270 degrees since I'd read that the magazine lips weren't conducive to reliable feeding when the pistol isn't held in the "optimal" position. I even tried holding the pistol with one hand inverted to see if limp wristing would cause a malfunction. The magazines and pistol worked just fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HxoUOo4KG0

1858
June 12, 2011, 10:57 PM
People that get hung up on capacity need to get some formal training.

Or at the very least participate in local USPSA, IDPA or IPSC matches. When that buzzer goes off and you have to move, shoot and reload while trying to remember your game plan, you WILL become a much better shooter. That practice is directly applicable to a defensive situation. It's not the ideal training or practice but a lot better than doing nothing at all, or simply shooting at paper on a static, square range as many do.

NMGonzo
June 12, 2011, 11:06 PM
I have phases where I like 1911s and then I hate them for awhile.

you too?

mljdeckard
June 13, 2011, 12:04 AM
I have tried a lot of guns as well, and I don't have any reason to use anything other than 1911s either.

Winkman822
June 13, 2011, 03:23 PM
What do you consider "practical"? Have you ever seen a 150 lb guy with one of those high cap .45's in an IWB holster under a t-shirt? It sticks out like a 3rd leg.

For practical concealed carry, a high cap .45 isn't very high on most people's list, but a thin 1911 in an IWB will hide under almost anything on anybody.
Agreed. I"m in the category of smallish guys that carry a .45, for me a Glock 21 or 31 is out of the question, I could carry a 36, but with a six round magazine, I'd do just as well with a 1911 or a wheel gun.

Stevie-Ray
June 13, 2011, 06:33 PM
1911s aren't for everybody, sure. They are definitely for me, ever since the 80s when I got my first. I have had four, have three now, one of which I carry daily, and I'm not done buying them. When a gun fits you like no other, you can shoot it like no other, and it is drop-dead gorgeous like no other, it seems you'd be foolish not to have one/a few/several.:cool:

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