What .22 LR should I test to see if my rifle likes it?


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clutch
June 8, 2011, 04:52 PM
I have three rimfire rifles, a 10/22, a Marlin 925 and a Mossberg M44. I'd like to find ammo that they like and wonder what the list of usual suspects are to try for midrange cost shooting. Something above bulkpack and below the nose bleed match ammo.

Thanks,

Clutch

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ThePunisher'sArmory
June 8, 2011, 05:18 PM
I own 3 Ruger 10/22, Savage MKII, Ruger single 6, Sig Mosquito, and a Walther P22. Mine like Fed bulk packs $20 per 550, CCI made Blazer ammo about $20 per 500, and CCI mini mag $7 per 100. The auto pistols like CCI minimag and blazer, and the Target 10/22 does best with Wolf Match $9 per 50. Now to answer your question. By small packs of all ammo made within your price restraints and see what your rifles like best!

mrbro
June 8, 2011, 05:23 PM
Wolf MT.

Hondo 60
June 8, 2011, 05:24 PM
I have a VERY picky Beretta Bobcat & it likes Fiocchi 40 gr High Velocity ammo.
Locally I get it for $2.69/box of 50.

Stay away from Winchester Wildcat.
It's so underpowered that my Marlin 60 won't cycle.

of course as always YMMV

dewalt-2
June 8, 2011, 05:25 PM
My rifles shoot well with Fed AutoMatch and Champion, CCI Blazer and Standard Velocity. That's the inexpensive end-accuracy gets better with the high end stuff.

wally
June 8, 2011, 06:00 PM
I've shot so much of the Federal bulk pack from Walmart in such a wide variety of .22LR pistols and rifles that if a gun don't work with it, I consider it broken.

If you want to shoot small groups the best bang for the buck is usually Wolf match or the Aguila match, but neither are quite as good as Eley.

The only two brands that have given me consistent trouble is Remington Thunderbolt, they changed something a few years ago and it went from good to heavily leading barrels in a few hundred rounds. The other is the Remington Golden Bullet bulk pack from Walmart -- too many duds, blown cases, and bullets that "fold" instead of climbing the feed ramp, not to mention the deformed rounds that won't even enter the magazine.

smurf hunter
June 8, 2011, 06:59 PM
I agree completely with Wally. Federal Walmart pack works incredible in my 10/22, esp considering the price. The bulk Rem seem to have 5-10% FTF/FTE or something stupid happen and they cost the same as the Federal.

CCI mini-mags are nice, but I only buy when on sale.

22-rimfire
June 8, 2011, 07:42 PM
My list of candidates would be: Federal Lightning #510B, CCI Mini Mags, CCI Standard Velocity, Wolf Match Target. When I test, I usually include some Remington Thunderbolts and Golden Bullets as a base line (misfires and all). If I have any CCI Blazers, I'll shoot some of those too.

ball3006
June 8, 2011, 08:17 PM
would shoot ragged one hole groups at 25 yards with Federal Lightening, the cheap stuff, all day long. As for what to shot, try them all and see what shoots the most accurately.......chris3

Heretic
June 8, 2011, 08:23 PM
Try em all, let your gun sort em out.

M-Cameron
June 8, 2011, 08:27 PM
Eley Yellow and Orange box are on the more affordable end of the "target" spectrum.

ive also heard very good things about Wolf.

NCsmitty
June 8, 2011, 08:48 PM
There's a good chance that all your rifles will like something different, and you may compromise for the sake of economy.
I've had in excess of 30 different brands and types of 22LR to determine what my 3 22cal rifles liked, and each had their own preferences. Just keep buying and trying.



NCsmitty

TonyAngel
June 8, 2011, 11:54 PM
I've had good luck with Federal Auto Match for bulk type ammo, from both accuracy and functional perspectives. Well, it's accurate until it falls below super sonic. For semi serious shooting you can try Eley Sport ($3 a box), Aguila Match ($30 a brick), Federal Gold Medal Target ($4 a box), Wolf MT ($5 a box) on up.

jpwilly
June 9, 2011, 01:37 AM
+1 for Wolf MT

Pete D.
June 9, 2011, 07:02 AM
Test as many brands and types as you can afford to buy and have time to shoot.
Realistically, focus on brands that you can afford to buy and shoot on a regular basis but don't ignore the top shelf brands (might as well know as much as you can).
I, normally, test 12-15 types of .22 ammo when I acquire a new .22.
Pete

Sport45
June 9, 2011, 09:16 AM
Start with the cheapest stuff you can find and work your way up to acceptable accuracy. You might get lucky...

wingman
June 9, 2011, 09:35 AM
Aguila rifle match or Extra, both excellent in all my 22's/

Art Eatman
June 9, 2011, 09:44 AM
See Posts #10 and #15. :) All .22s seem to be different about ammo.

As far as "advice"? Buy only one box of 50 at a time and keep notes on paper--not in your head.

Sako Shooter
June 9, 2011, 02:10 PM
If it says "SK" on the box - be it HV, Subsonic or Match - it is good stuff in my experience at a moderate price.

BeJaRa
June 9, 2011, 02:37 PM
I have not had any success with any remington 22LR in many years so I just stay away.

clutch
June 9, 2011, 02:40 PM
I bought a box of Remington Target, CCI Standard Vel Target and I took a chance on some CCI Green tag. Ouch on that green tag, 14.99 for a box. Noticing the price tag looked like a pile of price tags I peeled each layer off, 14.99, 12.99, 10.99 and originally 9.99 . I hope it didn't get too old sitting in the store.

I'll have to order the Aguila, tenex and wolf suggestions.

Thanks,

Clutch

Hocka Louis
June 9, 2011, 09:57 PM
First, don't buy ANY of that crap, light, Box-Mart bulk milk-carton "333", 550 round, "555" type stuff. the buyer dictates the price and then the manufacturer cuts corners. It is junk. Cheap. Popular. Junk. Now if you use it please don't start swearing by it -- there is no point and you are only embarassing yourself.

Aquila used to make a hi-speed, low pressure, Eley-primed .22 Target ammo that sold through the DCM (CMP now -- I'm getting old). See if you can find this (Centurion/Aquila Golden Eagle Target, 40 Gr., 1,200 fps). Was $250 a case of 5,000 more than two years ago, delivered. Quite nice ammo for the price but not sure it is made anymore per se. :(

Federal AutoMatch. $159/3,250. Above those cheap milk-box average accuracies and 1,200 fps too. Federal's lower-end target ammo's are ALL worth testing a box of to see what you might want quantity of.

Armscor Precision Target .22. $200/5,000? Above those cheap milk-box average accuracies too.

Again, if you avoid those cheap milk-box ammos, and anything Winchester (AWFUL bullets) as a rule of thumb, you'll be better off. Actually, CCI Blazer, which can be had for well less than $200/5,000 is above milk-box average accuracy though I think they package some that way too.

teetertotter
September 3, 2011, 05:43 PM
May I suggest CCI SV. Accuracy in my CZ 452 at 100m is still 1.25 max. inches in 8 three shot groups. Just sighted in again 2 weeks ago for State Championship for last Sunday. CCI SV seems to perform well in a lot of different rifles for accuracy. It is a nice mid priced ammo. Good luck in your testing.

Caliper_RWVA
September 3, 2011, 06:44 PM
First, don't buy ANY of that crap, light, Box-Mart bulk milk-carton "333", 550 round, "555" type stuff. the buyer dictates the price and then the manufacturer cuts corners. It is junk. Cheap. Popular. Junk. Now if you use it please don't start swearing by it -- there is no point and you are only embarrassing yourself.

Don't buy ANY? Those bulk packs have their place and it's not like they will hurt your gun. We all know those bulk packs are not the best, but the low price is perfect for casual plinking. It's even good for target practice if you keep in mind that the ammo isn't going to return match ammo results and run some higher quality stuff through now and then to really check your form. I also use the bulk packs extensively in my 22/45 pistol for steel target shooting at my club.

As far as midrange ammo goes, I'll add another vote for pretty much anything CCI. Standard velocity, Select or Green Tag for target shooting. SSI Subsonics or Mini Mags if you want to do some pest control. Some people love Stingers and Velocitors, but those are pushing a lot of energy for a .22 and tend to be hard on semi auto internals (Marlin specifically says no hyper velocity rounds) so I do not shoot them very much. Bolt guns should be fine though.

If your rifle will feed them (note: feed - you will still likely have to manually cycle the action after each shot), the CCI CB longs are fun low noise rounds.


Oh yeah, and the Blazer bulk boxes for plinking! :neener:

CnRnut
September 3, 2011, 08:25 PM
I've shot so much of the Federal bulk pack from Walmart in such a wide variety of .22LR pistols and rifles that if a gun don't work with it, I consider it broken.




Well said. All my rimfires MUST run Fed. Bulk!!!!!

Deltaboy
September 3, 2011, 08:28 PM
I have 5- 22 rifles and they are like women and differing taste in ammo.

wally
September 3, 2011, 08:31 PM
I, normally, test 12-15 types of .22 ammo when I acquire a new .22.

Good excuse as any for needing to get to the range! :)

carbine85
September 3, 2011, 08:57 PM
I hate CCI Mini mags.
Eley, Wolf Match, Aguila Match is about all I shoot anymore in the .22

teetertotter
September 4, 2011, 09:01 AM
Do most of you plinkers/hunters "0" at 50 yds and know what group size you get at that distance to determine best ammo for your rifle? Perhaps many assume that if the ammo fires in their rifle, it must be the one and only for everything. If I were a serious hunter/plinker, I would want an ammo that would give me 2 inch group size max at 100 yards. Accuracy then gets better on the way down. IMO. Cheap ammo, you get to many fliers and that one flier, you missed the squirrel completely. I never understood what makes one say I only use ........... when they don't know the accuracy they are getting at 50 or 100 yds. Maybe they don't care? But I would want to know.
I found cheap CCI Blazer shot 1.76 inch groups at 100M in my Marlin 39a when sighting in off sand bags. Other manufactures of HV type that I tried, did not fair as well. I don't think a statement that one ammo fits all, would be in my book if looking for the best accuracy in a specific .22 rifle.

CraigC
September 4, 2011, 12:47 PM
Try a little bit of everything. Yes, even Remington.

hawk45
September 4, 2011, 01:36 PM
If you are serious about small groups, your rifle must be up to the task to start. What does that mean? For me the trigger makes all the difference. I'd rather have a $200 rifle with an incredible trigger than a $1000 rifle with a crap trigger. Barrel and trigger is where your accuracy is at outside of the shooter having the skill to wring the full potential of rifle.

Once you meet criteria #1 and are truly interested in small groups, then don't waste your time with sub $4/50 ammo, and go straight to the good mid-level offerings. Lead shoots better than jacketed in my experience as I'm sure most competition guys will agree. What you are looking for is consistency, and that comes at a price (velocity, rim thickness, concentric, etc) all come into play.
Buy a box (50) of several quality makes/grains and see what she likes best.

bubbinator
September 5, 2011, 02:26 AM
I got a windfall of 6K rds of 22lr from a retired agt who devested himself of guns and ammo. It was old-he was a former pistol team shooter-some Rem 22lr boxes were marked $1.00! Lots of CCI Mini Mags/WWSuperX/WW-Western and Federal. Some odd boxes of Rem Yellow Jacket. Add to this my own Fed Bulk ammo box or 2, CCI bulk box or 2, and my CCI/Rem SubSonic ammo. CCI Stinger is trash-blew the floorplate from myRem 552-poor accuracy. Velocitors-hot but not that good. Rem 40gr Subsonic gave me the best accuracy overall from all the ammo tested. That includes- Ruger 10-22HB/S&W M17/Ruger MK11 HB/Ruger Charger/Walther P22 and Taurus M21(which only fed Rem 22HP Golden Bullets reliably)

toivo
September 5, 2011, 03:06 AM
My list of candidates would be: Federal Lightning #510B, CCI Mini Mags, CCI Standard Velocity, Wolf Match Target.

Replace Wolf Match Target with Federal AutoMatch, and you've got my list.

ClayinAR
September 5, 2011, 08:17 AM
Many years ago I went thru this. CCI Stingers won. Didn't shoot much 22 for a few years. Skip forward 30 years. Got the old 30 year old Stingers our and they still made one hole. I finally ran out of the old stuff and bought some more. Guess what? POS!!!
Went thru it all again and settled on 40 grains, they give consistent cycling in all my guns. The Champion 510 40 gr. solids do the best for me. There is better stuff out there but for overall accuracy and economy this is it. They run in every thing I've got.
I was amazed at how crappy the Stingers product had deteriorated over 30 years. The 30 years old stuff shot .3" and the new stuff shot 3" at 50 ft.

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