Yesterday evening, I came to a realization about the Mosin 91/30 I picked up last week, the ergos just didn't fit me too well, and it was overkill for a hunting rifle up here in seacoastal southern Maine, the furthest shot I'd feel comfortable taking would be 200 yards, and the 54R round would be overkill for our small white tail deer
Besides, the only thing I hunt, aside from paper targets and spoiled produce, are the occasional varmints, possums, woodchucks, snapping turtles in our bass pond, and coy-dogs (coyote-dog hybrid), nothing requiring the thunderous performance of the 54R cartridge
So, I went back to the toy shop, returned the 91/30, got back what I paid for it, as it was still in "new" condition, and with a couple strategic trades of a couple knives from my collection, I was able to pick up a 1974 vintage Yugo SKS, used, but in *unfired* condition, yes, *unfired*, based on the Cosmoline build up on the innards of the gun, it had been in storage since it was made
best part? it only cost me $80 out of pocket (not counting the purchase price of the 91/30 i picked up last week and returned for store credit, that is ;) )
the bluing is 99.9999% new, just a few rough spots on the receiver, probably came that way out of the bluing tank as these were designed to be utility rifles, not wall-hangers/safe-queens, the stock (birchwood, I think) is in great shape, a darkish blonde, with great grain and character, and the phosphorescent night sights still glow when I hit them with light from my UV LED flashlight, this thing looks literally brand new, the bore is so shiny and clean that I could swear that it was chrome lined, even though I know the Yugos were not chrome lined
the action is crisp, the bolt moves with authority, it shoulders well, balances nicely, and I love the solidness of the build, it looks and feels practically indestructible, just a well made, solid chunk of steel and wood
It's going to take a while to get all the cosmo out of the metal parts, but it's also a good way for me to get to know my SKS better, inside and out
Since I do plan to shoot domestic ammo in it, as well as surplus, I need to purchase one of those custom spring-loaded firing pins just to be on the safe side with domestic ammo, but I don't plan on shooting it at all until I've excised as much cosmo as possible from all the metal/moving parts
Then again, it's in such nice shape that I'd feel a little guilty using it, it looks too nice to use, I'm actually contemplating keeping this one unfired for collectibility and picking up a second, cheaper SKS to be an actual "user"
I'll take some pics later
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June 9, 2011, 01:22 AM
A quick easy way to get the cosmoline out of the small parts is to boil them in water, the oil floats off. But it will ruin the pan......sorry dear. lol Also brake cleaner works good on the bigger parts. Congrats on ur find. Right now I have a yugo but would love to swap for a chinese.
June 9, 2011, 02:13 AM
haha shiftyer1, I had to apologize to my wife after the EXACT same situation...
I love my SKS. I put a TAPCO 6 position stock on it because my wife had trouble shooting it in the original configuration and after I adjusted I haven't looked back. Great number of modifications that aren't permanent for this rifle. Have fun with either that SKS or the next one you get and I think you'll be happy with the performance personally.
June 9, 2011, 02:16 AM
good choice. Yugo SKSs are very well made.
June 9, 2011, 02:28 AM
our semi auto rifles are ar15's, m1 garands, and a chinese shorty sks fitted for ak mags.
although not as accurate as the first two, it is a joy to shoot.
the recoil is nice and feels very solid (good)..... the muzzle flash and booming sound is very satisfying.
being a norinco, and the short variety, accuracy is 8" or so @100yds, but the fun element is not trying to print clovers,,,,, its having a 30rd semi that always goes boom, is nimble and quick, and cost us less than 130 bux (purchased in apprx 1990)
June 9, 2011, 03:02 AM
Tzi.....I got off clean, I still wonder whatever happened to that pot;)
June 10, 2011, 01:29 AM
Heh, not me shift. It's officially my cosmo pan now and the only one authorized for it.
June 10, 2011, 01:38 AM
Clean it up and shoot it.
June 10, 2011, 02:14 PM
Yep wanted an SKS since 1969 but never purchased one?? Finally got one and wish I had purchased several a long time ago. Norinco chrome lined and is much more accurate than I ever thought it would be due to many comments I have heard and read.
Aimsurplus had taken some of my money lately for 1120 rounds at $189 and will probably be taking more if I can get motivated to do a bit more shooting.
"Survivor's sks board" is a dedicated web sight for the SKS and has some great threads and info on the beast.
Congrats on the purchase. Windex works well on clean up and so does hot water; I do have a new can of break cleaner but have not needed it yet. I went to a store and purchased some aluminum pans ( like you bake a turkey in). After shooting I just put parts in the pan and spray down with Windex or simple green; they come clean easily. Then lube with Breakfree CLP and put back together; works for me.
June 10, 2011, 05:04 PM
Congrats on the new Yugo. Just clean the cosmo out of and off of it and enjoy. And welcome the sks world as they tend to multiply.
June 10, 2011, 05:50 PM
I would strongly consider the addition of a tech sights brand rear sight.
June 12, 2011, 04:29 PM
$289 for the Yugo at
A DIVISION OF U.S. ARMS LLC.
June 12, 2011, 04:47 PM
I love my SKS. Pick up some stripper clips (or better yet, a crate of Yugo surplus ammo already on stripper clips) and have fun with it.
June 12, 2011, 04:52 PM
Yes Aimsurplus has the 1120 rounds on stripper clips for $189 ( corrosive )
A DIVISION OF U.S. ARMS LLC. has Yugo's for $289
June 18, 2011, 12:54 AM
I was able to sneak out before the rain to snap some outdoor pics;
Great pics, good looking weapon, and again congrats!
June 18, 2011, 02:45 AM
Aimsurplus 1,120 ammo it's out of stock.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"- Benjamin Franklin
June 18, 2011, 10:22 AM
Nice thing about a Yugo and hog hunting, if you run out of ammo, you can always make a bayonette charge!
June 18, 2011, 01:31 PM
And in that case, the bayo would literally live up to it's other name of "pig-sticker" ;)
I'm sure the bayo is meant to be used dull, as purely a stabbing weapon, and that sharpening the lower edge is inadvisable, right? I'm sure a sharpened edge would be at the bare minimum an open invitation to rust…
June 18, 2011, 01:59 PM
Man, now I miss my old SKS....well, it was a Chinese Type 56, but same-same, roughly. My dad got it to teach me how to shoot a rifle(he paid $150 for it in 2004), and I enjoyed it thoroughly until he sold it... I want another one so bad. Maybe I'll pick one up for 4th of July....Celebrate the freedom of our great country by popping holes in something.
One thing I like about the Yugo/Russian SKS' is that blade bayonet instead of the screwdriver-style bayonet on the Chinese counterparts. That, and original magazine is just prime for hunting, whereas the one I had had a 30-round detachable magazine with that god awful snout on the front to make up the space, and you had to play Hell just to get the magazine to seat right. Once you were there, though, it was just a blast, from the first shot to the last.
June 18, 2011, 02:09 PM
YES THEY WERE OUT FOR ABOUT A WEEK BUT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE MORE NOW! PRICE HAS GONE UP I PAID $189
Yugoslavian 7.62x39 123grn FMJ 15rd box
Ammunition Purchase Requirements
1,260rd case (84 boxes): $214.20ea
(Only 17 cents a Round!)
Beautiful 1980-90's Surplus Yugoslavian 7.62x39 ammunition. This is the best shooting 7.62x39 ammunition available. Features a 123grn lead core copper jacketed bullet, brass case, and berdan corrosive primer. Packed 15rds in a box, and 1,260rds (84 boxes) sealed in metal tin inside of a hinged latched wooden case.
1 or more
84 or more
June 18, 2011, 02:11 PM
Nice looking example. Have fun with it.
Don't they have moose up there in Maine?
June 18, 2011, 02:44 PM
If you ever get the urge to sell it don't do it. I still have a Norinco SKS but I'm still kicking myself for selling my Paratrooper model that accepted the high capacity duckbill magazines. SKS's are still around but they'll never go down in price and eventually they'll all be gone, except for a few very overpriced rifles. As tough and durable as AK's and makes a better hunting rifle in it's original configuration. Clean her up and have some fun!
June 18, 2011, 04:41 PM
Dont sell any version of SKS. They are the best value out there, Cheap ammo, handy , accurate within its design range parameter and just perfect for plinking and getting a new shooter progress to a centerfire. And its shoots like a traditional rifle unlike a semi auto with a pistol grip.
I started letting my son shoot the AK and SKS when he turned 10 yrs old. The next day we i brought him to hunt and shot a hog right behind the neck. What an experience to see his eyes glow.
Redneck with a 40
June 19, 2011, 02:23 PM
I bought my Yugo SKS back in '05 for $150. Its in excellent condition, but its not "cherry" like your's, but it doesn't bother me. I love shooting the SKS, it'll print 5 rounds into 4" at 100 yards, has a nice solid thump too it, and like others have said, a booming sound that puts a grin on my face. Its a blast to shoot at the range, you'll enjoy it.
One more bonus, Wolf 7.62x39 is back down to about 20 cents/round now.
June 19, 2011, 03:01 PM
One problem I'm finding with the SKS rifle, not mine, mind you, it looks like it's brand new, is that they seem to be addictive, the local toy store just got at least 3 more in, a Yugo that has seen some use, it's not pristine like mine, and has a slightly dark-ish bore, but it's all original components and wood, non-matching numbers so it's been rearsenaled at some point in it's life, and two more that have been "Bubba'd", a Yugo in a Tapco stock, with a 30 round detachable mag, and duracoated puke-green, and a Norinco in a folding stock, no bayo, and a 30 round mag
neither "Bubba" appeals to me, partly because I dislike Bubba-ing, but also because the asking price is too high $350 for each Bubba'd abomonation, the Yugo rearsenal is tempting, but too high for it's condition ($295)
If I find another unmolested SKS (Yugo, Russian, or Norinco with milled reciever) I may have to pick it up, these things are addictive, and I don't understand why they're not more popular, but that's also good, if they were more popular, the price would climb even more, maybe into the realm of a basic AR platform, and those are too pricey anyway, even though they are a nice gun (*PLEASE* NO AR-Vs. SKS/AK arguments in this thread, any such arguments and I will ask that the thread be locked/deleted, you have been warned)
June 19, 2011, 04:15 PM
Very nice rifle, congratulations. I really enjoy shooting mine now that it cycles reliably. Go on out and enjoy it.
June 25, 2011, 11:54 PM
Range report time :)
Took the SKS and one box of Winchester "USA" cartridges (picked 'em up in the "previously owned" ammo bin at the toy store, 20 unfired rounds in a ratty old Winchester USA box) to the range, this trip was to be purely a function test at 50 yards
I loaded up two rounds, with the gas system off, just to be as safe as possible, the first two rounds struck about 1" above POA, and the holes were touching!
I then loaded another two rounds, turned the gas system on, and aimed about 1" below where I wanted the rounds to hit, the first round fired just fine, and there were no slamfires, so I shot the second round, it was within 3/4" of the last shot
Since the gun seemed safe with multiple rounds (yes, i made sure the firing pin rattled freely before hitting the range) I loaded up six into the mag and fired them off
at 50 yards, the gun seems to group around 1" or so, I never expected it to be a tackdriver, it's mainly my fun-gun and my Zombie Møøse* eliminator gun, besides, it's new to me, and I'm sure as I get more familiar with the gun, what holds it likes, what ammo it favors I can get my groups more consistent, I'm not expecting One-Holers at 50 or 100 yards, just Minute of Deer/coyote/Zombie Møøse*, if I want one-holer accuracy, that's what my CZ 452 Trainer .22LR and Savage 93R17-GV .17HMR are for.....
as far as the shooting experience, it was very smooth and controllable, the Yugo definitely balances and points well, and as far as recoil goes...... what recoil? in semiauto mode, shooting free-standing, the recoil is barely stronger than a .22 Mag bolt action, from the bench, it's a hair stronger, about the only time recoil is noticeable is when I turn the gas system off and use it as a "straight pull bolt action", on a scale of 1-10, 1 being a .22LR, and 10 being a 3" 12-gauge slug, I'd rate the SKS with gas turned off at about a 2.5, with gas system on, 1.5
I had a *LOT* of fun with my Yugo, and wish I had brought more ammo for it, but all was not smiles and happiness in New-SKS-Owner-Land, I found a few things about the SKS that i most assuredly *DO NOT* like....
1; the gun is just *too much fun!*, I can see myself purchasing a *lot* more 7.62x39 ammo, thankfully, I can get the Ulyanovsk white-box from wally-world reasonably cheap, and the gun store sells Wolf "WPA Military Classic" (they appear to be the same cartridges, identical steel case, brass colored primer, and bullet that attracts a magnet) for a reasonable price, I also know I can pick up bulk Russian/Yugo corrosive surplus ammo pretty cheap, but I'd rather not shoot corrosive in it, i know it's easy clean up, but it's just one variable I'd rather not deal with, I'll pick up a couple of those 1100+ round spamcans at some point and just set them back into storage, just in case we get overrun by Zombie Møøse....
2; It tends to throw fired brass into the next zipcode/area code, and the fired shells have a tendency to dissapear into wherever it is that pens and socks dissapear off to as well, I guess it flings them so hard that they break the Light Barrier, create their own mini-wormholes and dissapear off into another alternate universe or something.... that said, I came to the range with 20 rounds, and I left with 20 pieces of fired Winchester brass, finding those last five shells was rather difficult though, they were quite well hidden
3; It seems to be overly fond of dinging/scraping/denting my nice reloadable brass shells, it's almost like it mangles the shells on purpose, with mischevous, impish joy "haha!, let's see him try to reload *THIS*... Ptooey.....ping.....", now I understand why many SKS/AK owners shoot the steel cased ammo (aside from it being less expensive than reloadable brass cased ammo), if the gun's gonna scar/dent/crush/mangle/kill/maim/destroy the brass shells to the point where reloading them is iffy, why deal with it, just use the steel cased stuff instead, maybe have a few boxes of reloadable brass cased ammo set aside for hunting/home defense purpose (although I shudder to think of the overpenetration issue of using an SKS as a home defense weapon....) but have the main plinking/range time spent using steel cased ammo
The more I think about it, the more I love this rifle, reasonably cheap to shoot with steel cased ammo, and shoots a *real* centerfire rifle caliber, punches a nice .30 caliber hole in things, and I'm a fan of guns that put big holes in things, my smallest shotgun is a 20 gauge (have both 12 and 20 gauge shotguns), and my handguns are .45 caliber (.45ACP 1911 and .45 Colt/ACP Ruger Blackhawk .45 Convertible revolver)
that said, I do still love my "lowly" rimfires as well, my one-hole-accurate CZ's and Savage .17HMR....
It's nice to finally have a .30 caliber centerfire rifle in the collection as well though, we have a problem with coydogs (Coyote-Dog hybrid, aggresiveness/wildness of a coyote, lack of fear of humans of a domesticated dog) on our property, the big one is the size of a small German Shepherd dog, and up until I got the SKS, the biggest caliber I had for anti-coyote duties was either the 20 or 12 gauge shotguns with either buckshot or slugs, or the .17HMR which had the range and ballistics, but was slightly lacking on downrange energy to humanely dispatch a coy, the SKS solves that problem, as it will pack plenty of downrange energy with a good expanding soft point
We also have a family of wild-but-almost-tame deer on our property, they're so used to people that they at times have walked within 25-30 yards of us, just watching us while we watched them, and since they've seen me out plinking on my backyard pellet rifle range that I use my Benjamin 392 .22 cal pump up pellet rifle and my CZ .22's (with Super Colibri primer-only rounds and CCI CB Longs), they've been habituated to seeing humans carrying rifles, and they don't react with fear, heck, one time I was setting up for some plinking on my pellet gun range with my CZ 452 Trainer and a deer walked up to the edge of the field, well within the range of the rifle, according to the AO bell on the scope, it was about 45 yards away, I raised the rifle (bolt back, mag out) and placed the crosshairs on the vitals of the deer, and it just stood there, looking at me, as I scoped it with the rifle, moved the crosshairs up to it's head, train the crosshairs on it's eye, then it's ear, no sign of fear, nothing.....
I lowered the rifle, and returned to my plinking range, but the deer was still downrange, so I actually had to walk over to it and *scare it away*.... if I was the unethical type, I could have easily taken it out, and we would have had some nice, fresh venison, but I didn't have a hunting licence (even though the deer was on our property, I'm assuming the hunting laws still apply....), it wasn't deer season, and a .22 would not have been a humane way to kill the deer, it would cause it needless suffering, besides, keeping the deer alive *and* habituated to humans is an easier way of keeping my yummy venison steaks nice and fresh until I truly *DO* need them....
or as Doctor Who (Christopher Eccelston, Doctor #9) would say.... "Life, that's nothing special, it's Nature's way of keeping meat fresh...." ;)
okay, enough rambling, suffice it to say that I'm very happy with my SKS, and I understand why steel cased rounds are so popular with the SKS/AK owning crowd
*Møøse bites kan be pretti nasti ;)
June 26, 2011, 12:48 AM
I've always liked the SKS. Congrats.
June 26, 2011, 01:46 AM
ive also had the spent cases rip holes in the space time continuum when exiting our sks.
sounds like you got a really good one.
June 26, 2011, 02:06 AM
My SKS ejects cases into space. I once put 100 rounds through it in an indoor range, and I could only find maybe a dozen pieces of brass afterwards. This was inside.
June 26, 2011, 10:43 PM
Took another range trip today, with 40 rounds of the cheapest Russian steel case ammo, Ulyanovsk white-box from wally-world....
using the cheap Russian steel cased ammo and shooting from a rest at 50 yards, my Yugo produced the following group;
Remember, this was with the cheapest ammo possible, with iron sights at 50 yards, the POA was the lowest point on the target grid, so it looks like the Yugo shoots approx. 1.5-2" high at 50 yards, I'd have to aim *under* the target at 50 yards to score accurate hits
Not sure why it's hitting a little left, I know the Russian steelcase isn't the most accurate, and the trigger has a bit of creep to it, but for what it is, it's fine for plinking, and it's still "minute of bad guy" accurate, it's not a tackdriver, it's never going to be a tackdriver, but for an unissued 40+ year old battle rifle, it's not too bad either
I think I found some bullet fragments behind the target when I went to retrieve the target, the backstop is a massive gravel backstop , and the remnants of the 123 grain FMJ bullet did not fare too well against the gravel, the jacket had basically torn itself open, opened like a flower, and only had a small blob of lead in the center, the round basically fragged when it hit the gravel...
June 28, 2011, 02:05 AM
The last SKS I purchased the front sight was off and was giving me rounds impacting almost 3.5 MOA to the right and 5 MOA high at 27 yards. Front sight tool and some adjustment brought her back into POA/POI. Like you I enjoy shooting the SKS and actually like the 7.62x39 round. I certainly like the SKS better than the AK as far as fit and finish not to mention accuracy.
June 28, 2011, 04:08 AM
I may sell my Yugo one day...to buy a better Yugo.
Mine is a mismatched re-arsenal that is in 'good' condition (some blemish and darkness from neglect, but absolutely no parts match and it is nowhere as pretty as TC's.
I paid $180 for it just a year ago. Although it was a great deal, I am tempted to sell it and fund a nicer one from gunbroker finds or from Samco or something.
June 28, 2011, 08:11 AM
Took mine to the range yesterday with it's cousins.
Found some Lapua ammo for it and it shoots amazingly well. Unfortunately it's not reloadable.