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x_wrench
June 9, 2011, 09:34 AM
ok, 5 years ago, my wife wanted a pistol. no problem, we went and got her a permit to purchase, and went and picked one out. we then took it to the cop shop, and completed the paperwork, done deal. so, fast forward to present day, she has fibromyalgia really bad, and racking the slide is no longer possible for her. so, she would like a revolver. the kink in the road, at least as i see it is she is on s.s. disability for diminished mental capacity. i am thinking that with that, they are going to turn her down on a permit application. we live in michigan. any idea if that would be the case? i do not think there would be a problem with what she already owns, as that transaction took place prior to her disability. i would not want her walking around the town with a pistol. but at home, for self defense, i do not think she would have a problem.

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M-Cameron
June 9, 2011, 09:52 AM
im thinking.....its time to buy yourself a nice new revolver.....and keep it in your nightstand.


However........
though, i hate you disarm people......but if you honestly think she cannot handle a gun in public.......perhaps it really isnt safe to keep one readily accessible in the house.

highlander 5
June 9, 2011, 10:33 AM
IANAL but if her diminished capacity was a diagnoses rather than a court decree why should there be a problem? Now if she has been institutionalized involuntarily then there might be a problem. You know her condition better than any of us here at THR,what say you? But as M-Cameron said maybe it's time for a new night stand gun.

Art Eatman
June 9, 2011, 10:53 AM
You can shoot her handgun, right? Why, then, could she not shoot yours? The Michigan law speaks only to purchase and ownership.

As to the diminished mental capacity, that's your own judgment call and I see no way we could help you.

USAF_Vet
June 9, 2011, 05:51 PM
My ex mother in law has fibromyalsia, and although she was as crazy as a loon, it wasn't from the disease. Why does the diagnosis label your wife as having diminished mental capacity? That just seems odd to me.

As Highlander5 said, it wasn't a court decree and she hasn't been involuntarily commited, she should be okay. I know people who have voluntarily commited themselves and can still own a firearm in Michigan. Pretty much, unless it came through the court system, it'll probably never show in NICS, and there is no reason it ever should.

bikemutt
June 9, 2011, 08:19 PM
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-225113--,00.html

If this is the permit application you are referring to, I see at least some clouds in the sky given what you described. You'd have to go through each of the qualifying citations to see if any would apply.

As a side note, I'd recommend some dry fire testing in order to determine that a double-action revolver trigger is not as big an obstacle as the semi-auto's slide rack. Some range time may be in order too, DA revolver shooting has presented me with some new accuracy issues I'm working to overcome.

Best of luck.

x_wrench
June 10, 2011, 10:20 AM
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7...5113--,00.html

yep, that is the one. / no, no court judgement. just diagnosis. // yes, she can handle the trigger pull on the revolver, we went to a store, picked one out, and had her dry fire it. i also wanted to make sure it was something she wanted. she picked out a rossi snub nose 38. i am not so hot on the rossi, but realisticy it will not get tens of thousands of rounds through it like one of mine will. /// and the diminished mental capacity has NOTHING to do with the fibromyalgia. two seperate problems. although they came on about the same time. //// i guess we will go get the form, fill it out, and if aproved, go get the gun. then make another trip back and i will take legal posesion of her old automatic. i do not have a 40s&w anyway. it is the same gun as my 45, but does carry more rounds. to bad it is not a 10mm!

ForumSurfer
June 10, 2011, 11:13 AM
As to the diminished mental capacity, that's your own judgment call and I see no way we could help you.

I agree, I went through a similar ordeal with my cousin. His father and I had many discussions on whether or not to disarm him. Good luck, I hope you can get the permit. The decision should be your decision, not the government's. :)

Art Eatman
June 10, 2011, 11:25 AM
Decision made, looks like...

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