PTR91s are Completely Underrated


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Boba Debt
June 11, 2011, 11:20 PM
I received my PRT91-KFM4Rs this week and I was able to do some ammo testing a the range today.

My rifles have serial numbers beyond 8000 so they have the new chamber design that is supposed to feed anything and for the most part, they do.

I took one of the rifles out of the case, mounted the Eotech and shot 140 rounds of South African with out a single issue.

Then I tried Winchester 308 and it would not even eject - ***

After that I tried a variety of surplus and all of it cycle with zero issues.

It was a great day at the range. I only had about an hour so I couldn't zero the Eotech but I'll be able to do that next week.

I let a couple people shoot it and I think some of them might be ordering one tonight

Here's a picture of my newest twins. This is a picture of my rifles, this is not a stock photo.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/KFM4R001.jpg

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Onmilo
June 12, 2011, 08:01 AM
I own a PTR-91
It's a keeper.:)

JustinJ
June 13, 2011, 04:00 PM
Nice rifles but why on earth would you buy two of the same gun in identical configurations?

For the price of two you could almost buy a real HK.

Onmilo
June 13, 2011, 05:34 PM
Two is one and one is none.
Besides, this is America and he can,,,

lencac
June 13, 2011, 05:53 PM
I've had a couple of PTR's. I ditched 'em both. Here's why. They are not very conducive to reusing the brass for obvious reasons when you see the brass after it has been ejected. I know, I know peeps are going to say this that and the other thing about brass. Fact is the extraction process is violent, damaging and extremely hard on brass. The rifle is doing its best to separate the cup from the shell, not even considering the visual damage ............... if you can even find it after it gets thrown 35 ft. or more.
The rifle although sufficient, is not of match grade accuracy, nor was that design ever intended to be. 2 in. groups with the best hand loaded ammo possible is the best I could get.
Excessive recoil. It can't be helped because of the nature of that huge bolt and carrier being thrust into your face.
Oh, yeah, almost forgot ............... they have terrible triggers too.
I've had PTR's, FAL's, M1 Garands, AR-10's.
IMHO best military type 7.62 auto-loader is the M1A/M14 type. Mine surpasses the PTR in every respect and it will produce sub MOA groups consistently with only moderately worked over handloads.
But nevertheless the PTR look very cool and are a blast to shoot. There are other rifles I would much less want to have other than PTR"S

JustinJ
June 13, 2011, 06:03 PM
"Besides, this is America and he can,,, "

This is america and you can hit your head with a hammer until it goes numb. That don't make it a good idea. And no, two is two, and one is one. At least thats what they teach past the first grade.

Bonesinium
June 13, 2011, 06:08 PM
"Besides, this is America and he can,,, "

This is america and you can hit your head with a hammer until it goes numb. That don't make it a good idea. And no, two is two, and one is one. At least thats what they teach past the first grade.
Okay negative nancy. Do you say this to everyone who has 2 or more of the same gun? I've seen tons of pictures people put up of their...
2+ AR's.
Matching revolvers.
Entire collection of Beretta 92's.
Multiple nearly identical AK's.
The list goes on.

He likes the rifle. And now he has two of them. What's the big deal with that?

goon
June 13, 2011, 06:12 PM
This is america and you can hit your head with a hammer until it goes numb. That don't make it a good idea. And no, two is two, and one is one. At least thats what they teach past the first grade.

Yeah, but is anyone teaching first graders the finer points of planning for the future?

Some day, thirty years from now, PTR-91's may be difficult to obtain. At that time, the OP will have a second rifle that he can sell to a collector for a huge profit. Or, after thirty years of shooting, perhaps a part will wear out or break on the first rifle. As the OP searches for a replacement he'll still be well-armed with his second rifle.
Redundancy is a great idea if you can afford it.
Or maybe he'll have a son or daughter that takes an interest in shooting. Who wouldn't want a good rifle to pass on to their kid when the time was right?

I'm all for multiples when possible, or at least guns that share ammunition.

JustinJ
June 13, 2011, 06:31 PM
Actually, my question was directed at the OP. The other comment was a joke to Onmilo for answering said question. Asking a question does not equal an insult.

Personally, I like variety and I couldnt care less if he owns 20 of the same rifle, I'm just curious as to why so decided to ask. You know...this being a board to exchange ideas and all. The biggest surpirse to me is that they are of the exact same configuraiton, or at least appear that way from the pic.

And unless one is for spare parts, which is plausible, any gun could potentially be difficult to obtain down the road. Guns sharing ammo is quite different than identical guns.

ripp
June 13, 2011, 06:36 PM
I wouldn't. I've seen it not work out,many times. The kids want something else, take the gun and sell it, or never use it, wish they didn't have to humor the old man. Let them buy what they want. Give them money if you want to ruin their ability to function. The Hk's trigger sucks SO bad, and you can't fix it and still have semi auto fire. you can get a 'set trigger" that requires you to engage the safety, pull the trigger, then disengage the safety, but the next shot is that old sucky HK trigger pull.

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