Carrying a G19 vs G26


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skywalkrNCSU
June 12, 2011, 01:05 PM
Right now I have a Glock 19 and carry it some but I would really like something that conceals easier. I am looking at some single stack guns (Kahr PM9/CM9) but I love my Glock so I am thinking about the 26. I was wondering from people who have carried both, how much more concealable is the 26? It is still as thick as the 19 so it doesn't seem like it would hide away that much better. I figure I would be better off with a single stack but I wanted to check with some people on here first.

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2ndAmFan
June 12, 2011, 01:12 PM
A G26 is very concealable carried IWB. I've carried one on and off for years and my wife and kids almost never make me unless one of them walks up and hugs me. No one else has ever made me at all that I know of. It's so small and the grip is so short it prints little if at all even under a T shirt . I'm 5' 9 1/2" 175 lbs so it's not like I have a belly to hide it under.

glockky
June 12, 2011, 01:16 PM
The 26 is a great carry gun. One had been my EDC for a while and i find it to be alot easier to carry that most other guns because of the grip length. That seems to be what give me away.

The Lone Haranguer
June 12, 2011, 02:12 PM
It is still as thick as the 19 so it doesn't seem like it would hide away that much better.
That has been my observation. I would look into something thinner. My favorite small 9mm is the Kahr, but something like the new Ruger LC9 is worth a look. But don't get rid of the G19.

skywalkrNCSU
June 12, 2011, 02:32 PM
Oh don't worry, the G19 is here to stay. It is my overall favorite gun and my go to gun but I just want something easier to carry.

EnderWiggin
June 12, 2011, 02:47 PM
The G26 conceals a lot better than the G19 (I have both). I am 5'8" and only ~145ish pounds and i can conceal a G26 with just a t-shirt on. My girlfriend doesn't even know that I am carrying until she hugs me. So the question is not whether a G26 can be easily concealed (it can and very easily) but whether it is more comfortable than a single stack. Two very different questions.

The short grip of the G26 make it invisible but the thickness of a double stack may make it uncomfortable for some. If you do get a single stack for comfort, make sure the grip is not longer than the G26 grip (most single stacks are) since that is what really matters when concealing. I have found very few guns that offer a grip as short as that of the G26 while still being easy to hold and shoot.

amd6547
June 12, 2011, 03:00 PM
The beauty of the G26 is you can use your G19 mags in it, and you are already used to the Glock trigger and system.

EnderWiggin
June 12, 2011, 03:03 PM
I forgot to mention as well that the G26 is not only a very concealable gun but it's also very comfortable to shoot making it a very viable option for IDPA, IPSC, or just range time. This is GREAT because it lets you practice with the pistol you will actually be carrying.

jon86
June 12, 2011, 03:12 PM
I would keep the G19, (wonderful handgun) but skip the G26. I don't think it offers much more concealability than the G19. I don't have a G19 or G23 (yet) but the 19/23 I find is ALMOST as concealable, but MORE comfortable to carry IWB. The little 26/27 seems a little more top heavy IWB. The 19/23 is more balanced because of the longer barrel. This is simply my experience. I would look for something a bit smaller, like a ruger lc9 or a kahr cm9.

smince
June 12, 2011, 03:13 PM
I have 2 G19's and a 26.

I had the grip on one of the 19's trimmed to G26 length. If you don't feel up to the task, there are several firms that can do this for you.

To me it has a great balance and is the best of both worlds.

It is my primary EDC for the last 2 years. I use the 26 mostly if I need deeper concealment under a tucked-in shirt or similar in a belly band holster.

Autolycus
June 12, 2011, 03:17 PM
Get the Glock 26 and you will be happy. You can use the magazines from the Glock 19 as spare mags which is a nice bonus.

DevilDog0402
June 12, 2011, 03:19 PM
My Glock 33 conceals very well in a crossbreed supertuck under an untucked polo shirt, and is quite comfortable.

Stevie-Ray
June 12, 2011, 06:29 PM
I would much rather carry a 26 than a 19. And since the 26 makes an excellent range gun as well, I don't need a 19.

ranburr
June 12, 2011, 06:45 PM
The 19 is as easy to conceal as a 26. Do you have a good belt and holster?

REAPER4206969
June 12, 2011, 06:48 PM
If you can't CCW a 19/23 than something else is wrong.

skywalkrNCSU
June 12, 2011, 07:01 PM
The 19 is as easy to conceal as a 26. Do you have a good belt and holster?

I do and I can conceal it pretty well but not great and it is still pretty bulky.

If you can't CCW a 19/23 than something else is wrong.

I can CCW a full size 1911, I just don't want to.

I don't feel the need to carry a gun with 15+1 capacity on a daily basis and would rather have something smaller, not sure what is so difficult to understand with that.

REAPER4206969
June 12, 2011, 07:48 PM
So you want to compromise your capability for comfort?

Also, the 26/27 is only around 1/2" smaller and 1oz. lighter, yet you're giving up 4-5rds, a full grip and increased sight radius.

DougW
June 12, 2011, 07:56 PM
I also have 2 G19's and a G26. The G26 has Glock +2 bases on the 10 round mags making them 12 round, and with them the grip is almost as long as a G19. But, the shorter barrel/slide of the G26 makes it easier to conceal in a Fobus paddle under an un-tucked shirt. I like shooting the G19 a bit better, but the G26 is easier to carry, IMO. Glad I have both.

45Fan
June 12, 2011, 08:54 PM
I carry a full size 1911 most often, but I also carry an officer size 1911, PT92 or G26. The 26 is concealable, but for me, not any more so than any of the other pistols I carry regularly.
My wife carries a PF9, and it is considerably easier to conceal, as it is much narrower, and as far as grip length compared to the Glock 26, nearly identical. the trade off is mag capacity for weight and girth, and comfort while shooting. While not unbearable, the single stack 9s are a bit more to keep ahold of when shooting.

Rmiller31
June 12, 2011, 09:37 PM
If it's not comfortable your less likely to carry it.

Kingofthehill
June 12, 2011, 09:45 PM
Like we were talking about in the other thread.

have you checkd out a single stack 9mm/40 Walther PPS?

Super thin, this is it next to a Glock 26

http://i52.tinypic.com/bjvrd.jpg

Jbabbler
June 12, 2011, 10:16 PM
I love my sub-compact Glock 33 and carry it quite a bit. My G23 it just too long in the grip to really conceal if I really care about printing.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/jbabbler/GLOCK/g33.jpg

amd6547
June 12, 2011, 10:16 PM
Ihave CCW'd a G17, and I have also carried a G30. The G30 is about the same size as a G19, though a little thicker.
I find the G26 to be quite bit easier to carry.
I find I can easily hit a 10" round plate at 40yds with the G26, so I don't feel I am giving up any capability.

beeenbag
June 12, 2011, 10:19 PM
I carried a g19 for a year or so then switched to the g27. I carried both in a cb supertuck copy I made and the g27 carries so much better. Another plus is the holsters you have will work too. Get the g26 you will be happy, promise.

snatale42
June 12, 2011, 10:21 PM
Sorry to bash people that say 19's conceal as well as 26's....NO they don't. Yes you can conceal them fine (I carried a 19 for a long time) But a 26 is SMALLER, It's not opinion, it's math! Smaller guns conceal better. smaller grip is everything. I would never carry my G19 concealed over the 26 again.

toivo
June 12, 2011, 10:22 PM
Also, the 26/27 is only around 1/2" smaller and 1oz. lighter, yet you're giving up 4-5rds, a full grip and increased sight radius.

The 19 is only 1/2" inch longer than the 26, but it's almost a full inch taller: 5" compared to 4.17". I find my 26 to be more comfortable to shoot than some of my pistols that have a full-length grip. And it's true that the 26 gives up some capacity, but if the OP already has a 19, he can carry full-cap 19 mags as reloads.

Is the size different enough to justify buying another gun? That's something he's going to have to decide for himself. I can see how he might want something slimmer, but I don't think any of the slimmer guns are going to be as comfortable to shoot as a 26. Maybe that doesn't matter.

Breakmyfootoff
June 12, 2011, 10:30 PM
Its ridiculous to say that the 19 conceals as easily as the 26. I'm not saying the 19 is particularly hard to hide, but the 26 is even easier. The hardest part of a gun to keep hidden is the butt, the shorter the grip, the easier is is to keep from showing it. I carry my 26 every day, normally wearing some type of gym shorts and a t-shirt with the 10 round magazine in it, and a 17 round back up magazine. IMO the main argument for going with the 26 is that its easy to make the 26 bigger by just adding a larger magazine and grip extension, but making the 19 smaller requires some serious chopping.

REAPER4206969
June 12, 2011, 10:34 PM
Dial a little more forward cant in on your holster and the grip difference is meaningless.

Breakmyfootoff
June 12, 2011, 10:44 PM
Still, regardless of which holster, or degree of cant, or shirt material, or any other number of variables, the fact remains that a pistol with smaller physical dimensions will be easier to hide than a pistol with larger dimensions.

skywalkrNCSU
June 12, 2011, 10:53 PM
So you want to compromise your capability for comfort?

Yep.

I don't feel the need for more capability than 7 rounds of 9mm especially since there are a lot of times I won't carry my 19 due to comfort and not being able to easily conceal.

Cards81fan
June 12, 2011, 11:03 PM
Sorry to bash people that say 19's conceal as well as 26's....NO they don't. Yes you can conceal them fine (I carried a 19 for a long time) But a 26 is SMALLER, It's not opinion, it's math! Smaller guns conceal better. smaller grip is everything. I would never carry my G19 concealed over the 26 again.
This. I am not a Glock fan, but the 26 is the best CCW pistol I ever owned. It was the easiest to carry of any non-pocket pistol I had ever seen, combined with the capacity of many full-size pistols.

The shorter slide and grip make it much more concealable than a 19 or similar size pistol (in my case, XD 4"). I wear my shirts fairly trim fit (5'10" and 175), and I could wear them with the 26. Not so with the others.

I kick myself daily for selling that pistol. It had trijicons on it too :(

Kingofthehill
June 12, 2011, 11:11 PM
Most important thing about CCW

Width of the pistol and grip length. You can have a 7" barrel and really its no big deal. Its the grip frame and Width that is key.

the 26/27 will and does hide better than a 19/23 that is 100% truth.

Now there is something to be said about the person not doing it right if they can't conceal a 19 but they can a 26. With the options out there currently available, if you can't find a holster to conceal just about anything, than you are doing it wrong.

I have holsters that will not allow me to conceal a 3.5" 1911... but i have holsters that let me fully conceal a full steal 5" 1911.

Just gotta do your homework and there is almost no way around it but you will own several holsters.

CDW4ME
June 12, 2011, 11:16 PM
I carry the subcompact Glocks 27/33 way more than the compact 19/23. Why?
The subcompacts are small enough for me to carry in the appendix position; in a clip-on Kydex holster the subcompact disappears under a untucked t-shirt and I don't have to worry at all about printing.
Appendix position is quick to access and much easier to get to when seated in vehicle.
The subcompacts are also better for me in a Smartcarry when wearing gym / sweatshorts and a t-shirt.

Aiko492
June 13, 2011, 12:00 AM
I also have both the G19 and G26-love both (the G26 is actually more accurate in my hands). Just some thoughts. There are thinner and easier to conceal guns available, but I was drawn more to reliability as my #1 factor- for IWB I carry Glocks and HK. As long as you do not add the pinky extension/mag extension to the G26, it does conceal better IMO than the G19. Key though, is the holster. After a few cheap Uncle Mike's, I bought a Galco Summer Comfort which is ok. I really hit my stride with these guns w/IWB when I bought the CompTac MTAC (awesome). Similar to the Crossbreed. Anyway, the G26 is special gun. Mine is a Gen 4. I have owned HK's for 16 years and love this 26 and it will be with me for the long haul.

GLOOB
June 13, 2011, 02:00 AM
It depends on how you carry. I find it conceals a little bit better, but it's a lot more comfortable. Still it ain't no picnic. I would usually rather carry one of my 9x18's.

I thought a G27 concealed well on me, even with a T shirt. Then one day a friend asks me "What're you packin'?" I was holding a bag in my hand, and I told her what was in it. She pressed, and it took me a few seconds before it dawned on me what she was talking about. I looked down, and nothing was printing. The width of the gun was what gave it away. I'm a fairly big boy at 6" 230lbs, with just enough belly to call a gut. Apparently it ain't enough to hide a Glock. That friend was the only one who ever made me, though, and she happens to be a manager of a bank. I dunno if that actually means anything, but I thought it might be more than a coincidence.

Girodin
June 13, 2011, 02:48 AM
I have a 19 a 26 and a Kahr. For me the kahr hides notably better than the glocks. I don't find there is a lot of difference in concealing the 19 and the 26. I prefer the 19 or the 26 with grip extension to the 26 with a ten round mag. From a low ready I can shoot the 26 with the 10 round mags just fine but when it comes to drawing from concealed I'm faster and more consistent with extension or the 19.

Any of the three can be a very viable carry gun. I mostly carry a 26 but am thinking of switching to my steyr that is roughly the same size as the G19. If I really wanted something that concealed a lot better than my 19 I'd look more to the kahr than the 26.

SIGLBER
June 13, 2011, 03:08 AM
I've carried a G27 for years and have shot allot of the G26's. The G19 is a better all around gun. But the G26/G27 is an excellent gun for replacing a small framed revolver. It is not a true pocket pistol. Well at least not in jeans pockets anyways. But in the summer they are great in a belly band or IWB holster. Ar the easier to carry in light attire in the summer than the G19? They are but not by as much as you would think.
Most folks put a grip extender on the G26/G27 so their baby finger doesn't hang off the bottom of the frame. Once you do this it is almost as big as the G19's grip. The grip is the most difficult part of the gun to conceal. Havig said that I wouldn't think twice about getting a G26 if I wanted one. They are very accurate by the way for a little gun. But if you want the utmost in concealment then I would look at the Kahr's, Kel Tec PF9, or something along those lines.
Allot of people don't like the little Kel Tec's but my P32, P3AT, and PF9 have been great. The PF9 had to go back to the factory for work when I first got it. It had an older style magazine release that needed to be replaced. Since then it just rocks. It does recoil pretty hard. I have a Kahr MK4o. I bought it right after they first came out with them. it's built like a Swiss watch. Some of the folks at my range have had problems with some of the Kahr polymer guns. But Kahr fixed them. The new CM9 (economy version of the PM9) has been getting good reviews. That or the CW9 (3.5" barreled version) would make a great carry gun.

psp7304
June 13, 2011, 07:07 AM
I have a Kahr CM9 I purchased several weeks ago. It is much thinner than my Glock 26. I have fired 500 rounds through the CM9 with no malfunction using fmj and jhp ammo. The accuracy of this little pistol is amazing. I'm a Glock guy but a single stack 9mm took me to the CM9. I like the CM9 so much that I sold my Glock 26.

I also looked a the the Walther PPS but did not care for the mag release being on the trigger guard. Also, the CM9/PM9 is smaller than the PPS.

jon86
June 13, 2011, 07:32 AM
So you want to compromise your capability for comfort?

A G19 is a compromise from a G17. A G17 is a compromise from a pump shotgun. A shotgun is a compromise from a FAL. A FAL is a compromise from calling in an air strike. Every handgun is a compromise. The OP was asking a question about carrying a smaller gun, and this is the most constructive answer you could give him?

Taurus 617 CCW
June 13, 2011, 09:27 AM
I previously owned a Glock 27 (.40 caliber cousin to the 26) and now own/carry a Glock 19. I got rid of the 27 because it was top heavy in the holster and would flip outside the waistband (carried IWB with a Galco summer special 2). I found that the Glock 19 grip fit my hand better so I went with that. Yes the Glock 27 was smaller and a bit easier to conceal. For ultra discreet carry where I don't want anyone knowing I have a gun, I carry a Ruger LCP. You may consider something in the Ruger LC9 size range if you want to stick to a 9mm but still have something more concealable.

Jonah71
June 13, 2011, 09:36 AM
I have the G 23, and unless I'm mistaken there's little difference in size from the G 19. While I like the 23, my G 26 IS an easier and lighter gun to carry. For CCW, I've recently decided on the 26. Just make sure you have the right holster.

snooperman
June 13, 2011, 09:42 AM
they may be more difficult to conceal . You may want to try the Keltec PF9, a thinner gun and much lighter for conceal carry. They are quite reliable and reasonably priced as well. Go to a gunshop and try them out with an IWB holster before you buy. There are others as well such as the thin Taurus 709 "SLIM" that might work as well. Just some alternatives you might want to consider. Have fun in your search.

Strykervet
June 14, 2011, 06:22 PM
I have a G27 on right now in a Milt Sparks VMII IWB holster with a double thick gun belt. I highly recommend this setup. You gotta have a good holster and a good belt, otherwise it won't matter what you get --if it doesn't fit tight, if it moves, etc., etc.-- then you won't want to wear it and it won't conceal properly.

The G19/23 should hide fine in this rig, considering I use a +1 pinky extension on the G27 (it just doesn't feel right without it) it is almost as long as the G23. The G19/23 would also fit a little deeper in the VMII making it fit tighter I would think. This is the case with my VMII and G29.

On the other hand, you can hide the smaller one easier, like the guy said, it's math. And you have the bonus of using the G17/22 magazines as backup mags. But if you can hide the G19 no problem, then go with that. It is a more natural feeling weapon and more accurate (although I think this is simply due to ergonomics).

Now, if you can handle something a little wider and stouter, the G29/30 is between the size of the G27 and the G23, but wider and a little heavier (closer to the size of the G19/23). Ten rounds of 10mm, very accurate (it is actually my second most accurate Glock behind the G17L) and very powerful. In the VMII holster with the double thick belt, I can hide it under everything but the thinnest over shirt. Just something to mull over if you can hide the G19/23, but can handle something a just a little wider and heavier, and are a little taller or bigger than average.

Strykervet
June 14, 2011, 06:44 PM
Considering the choices you are dealing with, you can't really make a bad one. All the Glocks are great carry pieces, especially the G26/27/33 the G19/23/31, and depending on build/need, the G29/30. There is also the G36. All are great choices for CCW.

So I'm gonna say this again because it is so important. Focus on getting a GREAT holster and belt. You may have to wait awhile for a good one. While some folks like Galco, they are mass produced and not what I consider great. Look at Milt Sparks, Mitch Rosen, and Lou Alessi to start with for some great holsters. The Milt Sparks VMII, VersaMax2, has interchangeable belt loops for different belt thickness, and you can get kydex belt clips so you can tuck in a dress shirt over the holster. It fits tight against the body, and the belt loops are on either side of the IWB holster as opposed to being right on top of the holster. This makes the width profile of the holster much slimmer, spreads out the weight of the firearm, and makes it more comfortable in general. Great, great holster.

For the belt, you need a stiff gun belt, stiff as in that it won't fold. I use a double thick 1.5" belt (when two softer belts are sewn together, they yeild a soft comfortable belt that won't bend or fold). Mine is made by a local leatherworker, but Milt Sparks makes some great belts. Lifelong type stuff, everything they do is handmade, I can't say enough good about them. Definitely worth the wait, if you plan on going with these guys though, I'd order the holster before getting the pistol.

Also, make sure the loops on the holster fit the belt you get. If you get a 1.5" double thick belt from maker A, it may not fit maker B's 1.5" loops. It may be better to get the belt and holster from the same maker.

This holster/belt issue never comes up enough, but it is equally important, maybe more so, than the selection of the firearm itself. It dictates how comfortable the carry will be, how secure the draw and reholster is, and how well both the holster and pistol as a whole conceal against your body. Each component is equally important too --my nice VMII's don't conceal well at all when worn with a cheap department store belt, and my kydex holster with too large loops sort of hangs off my nice gun belt.

smince
June 14, 2011, 07:34 PM
I generally carry a G19 or my 19 w grip trimmed to 26 length for EDC. I carry Appendix-IWB. I usually only carry the G26 when I need to conceal under a dress shirt or similar tucked-in attire (bellyband-type holster).

I used to own a PM9. While it was a great gun, in my real-world carry, it wasn't any harder to conceal the 26 VS the PM9. Plus the benefit of having more rounds, in a more accurate gun that I can shoot at farther ranges if necessary. And it uses my G17 spares for reloads.I got rid of the 27 because it was top heavy in the holster and would flip outside the waistband Holster/carry problem. Not the gun's fault.Most folks put a grip extender on the G26/G27 so their baby finger doesn't hang off the bottom of the frame. Once you do this it is almost as big as the G19's grip.Even with the +2 extension, the 26 is still 5/8" shorter in the back part of the grip than a standard G19. Think of it as like the rounded mainspring housing Bob-tail mods for a 1911.

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