Beretta Px4 Storm - Pros & Cons?


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sch84
June 12, 2011, 04:44 PM
I really like the px4 storm but I read and have been told that they can jam easily in dirty conditions. I was told that dirt can get into the rotating barrel and cause it to malfunction. I've read a lot of great reviews about this pistol but I don't want to buy something that is unreliable in certain conditions. So I'd like to hear from anyone who owns one or has owned one what you think of them. I either want to buy the .45acp or 9mm model.

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Big_John1961
June 12, 2011, 05:35 PM
I just bought the full size in 9mm. I loved the way it felt and looked, and I've had good luck with Beretta's in the past. I have not shot this one yet, but almost every review I read spoke to top-flight reliability. Other than shootability, reliability was the number one thing people cited as a strength of this pistol. The compact felt great in the hand also.

Screwball
June 12, 2011, 06:08 PM
Owning both the 9mm and .45, you would be happy with either. The rotating barrel does an awesome job at soaking up recoil. It is a very well built pistol.

To be honest, I've seen quite a few instances where the PX4 or Cougar (also uses the rotating barrel) have been said to be unreliable, but you always should look at the background of these claims. A friend of a friend, who knew someone that had a brother which had issues with that platform isn't a great claim to stand behind, nor people who never fired the gun. It is easy to see these arguments, since they usually lack information and quickly recommend a more "superior" design.

To answer your question, it is a design like any other. There is a point where it will fail, just as a S&W or Glock will. The PX4's failure point isn't any lower than any other handgun made by a quality manufacturer.

wbwanzer
June 12, 2011, 06:19 PM
I don't have one but I put a few rounds through a friends' recently. I was impressed. I shot well with it (better than I was shooting with my gun). It seemed to have less recoil than my Stoeger Cougar even though it's lighter than the Cougar. I would get one but I can't shoot all of the pistols I already have.

gschoelles
June 13, 2011, 11:01 AM
I ran two range days where the Storm was a loner gun and had a bunch (over 1000 rnds) of low end WPA ammo ran through it, no cleaning and just some oiling the morning of the second day. The gun ran flawlessly and impressed most of those who tried it.

I don't like slide mounted safety's so I'm not pushing this gun, but it did well under some pretty tough conditions.

ForumSurfer
June 13, 2011, 11:16 AM
I ran 100 rounds through a rental.

Pros:


It is a beretta.
The rotating barrel seemed to soak up some recoil, but no more than a similar sized polymer with a dual recoil spring assembly. That's just me and IMHO, recoil is very subjective.
I didn't experience any jams, but 100 trouble-free rounds out of a used range gun is hardly a reliability indicator.
The range guy let me shoot it for free (with my own ammo) and it put a smile on my face.

Cons:


Slide mounted safety isn't natural to me so I would be reluctant to carry it, or practice enough to carry it without completely switching to apx4's and only carrying px4's.
Ugly as homemade sin (looks are subjective of course), but I like the looks of it.

I would love to have taken it home and went shooting in the rain, drop it in the mud or sand and give you a real reliability test. I would love to see how the mags feed after dropping them in the dirt or mud a few times, but I can't. All I can say is that the one I test drove gobbled up 100 rounds with ease.

Lonestar49
June 13, 2011, 01:23 PM
...

Have owned a Px4 40 for 5yrs, just over 12k flawless rounds, any ammo, including good re-loads..

Thoughts about slide mounted safety/decocker levers -

They are a tad of a stretch and do stick out, however -

One can either buy a G model, or convert a F model, easily, no parts needed, just remove a tiny spring and ball bearing and one has a G-model, decocker - only vs the F's Safety/decocker lever/s in one.

Also, there are clean, flush fitting, stealth levers available for those that think the levers (Batwings..lol) stick out too far, for carry, or otherwise.. for all models

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/px4-sc_mod-2.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/px4-sc_mod-1.jpg


As mentioned, and I agree, they'll go any distance, any ammo (for the most part) and be it 9mm, 40cal, or 45cal, they all offer soft/balanced recoil along with excellent, on-going, accuracy.

My Px4 40 G and Sig P228 9mm (both decocker-only)
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/Picture390.jpg


Ls

wbwanzer
June 13, 2011, 01:36 PM
Hey Lonestar, are those some kind of optional sights or they add-ons?

Cards81fan
June 13, 2011, 01:41 PM
Ugly as homemade sin (looks are subjective of course), but I like the looks of it.


Ha! I think it's kinda awkward-looking, dare I say ugly, as well. But I too think it's growing on me :)

Big_John1961
June 13, 2011, 01:42 PM
Great shots, Lonestar. I might have to look into both the stealth levers and the night sights once I get mine.

legion3
June 13, 2011, 02:28 PM
I like the PX4 a lot, but...

I have had both the F and the C (I converted the F to a G using the stealth leavers mentioned by lonestar above and the C is the constant action) (Read Glock ish like trigger pull).

Much preferred the C trigger but the gun has little in the way of trigger reset, it seems to require a full stroke of the trigger to reset.

Not an issue if you shoot that way but if you shoot using a reset (ala Glock and XD) the PX4 is not really the gun for you - even the C model.

Other than that little issue the rest of the gun is a flawless Beretta polymer pistol.

I really like the new compact model but wish it came in the C model.

Screwball
June 13, 2011, 08:11 PM
My 9mm...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/Screwball216/IMG_0488.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/Screwball216/IMG_0491.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/Screwball216/IMG_0490.jpg

My .45...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/Screwball216/IMG_0452.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/Screwball216/IMG_0455.jpg

If you don't like the slide mounted safety, convert it one way or another. My .45 has the Stealth controls while my 9mm has the standard controls (being my range gun).

Lonestar49
June 13, 2011, 08:19 PM
Hey Lonestar, are those some kind of optional sights or they add-ons?

...

In my case, yes they are add-ons, Trijicons, (after market) however, every now and then they come thru with 3-dot night sights on them, not that often, but sometimes.

So chk all the Px4's they might have in stock,


Ls

soapboxpreacher
June 13, 2011, 11:06 PM
Was at the range yesterday the guy next to me had one that was FTFing. They took (RO and the shooter) neither could get it fixed. The group of guys I shoot with all have different 9mm. I have an M&P9, my buddy has an XDm and the other the Px4. I like the way the px4 fits my hand. I like the narrow profile. The grip is comfortable and I seem to shoot it well. However this scare me to death and I could be wrong but the spring under the barrel has a plastic recoil guide...at least it looks that way. I cleaned it and couldnt believe what I was looking at when I came across this. not sure if Beretta is still manufacturing it this way but not my cup of tea!

To be honest, I like them all. Did like the M&P over the other for how it fit my hand and the grip angle. The XDm sits high on the hand higher bore axis and the px4 is in between both the M&P and the XDm for bore axis. My M&P seems to recoil more then either..more muzzle climb as well. Have shot all three side by side same ammo same round count in the mags as a test. The Px4 was pretty smooth but all the controls drove me a little batty. So I passed on it. I still do like it and shoot it pretty well. Just my 2 cents but the plastic recoil guide scared me stupid! His is definitely plastic...still shaking my head! Steel and I really like this gun...plastic...hmmmmm?

soapboxpreacher
June 13, 2011, 11:18 PM
Oh and beretta customer service is pretty fair at best. I have a beretta shotgun and it is not easy to deal with! I did forget to mention the beretta trigger is my least favorite of the bunch. The XDm was pretty nice and i did a trigger job on my M&P so it is quite nice but still like the XDm just as much but that is after 2500 round through it...solid feel, smooth and a clean break. It is a very good gun! Some additional things too. When I compared the 3 I noticed the barrel length on the standard full size 9mm models were all different. PX4: 4" M&P: 4.25" and the XDm: 4.5" I recently shot the XDm more accurately then the others...damn it! Barrel length plus match grade should equal my accuracy in the right hands just not mine but did on this day! HA

opto_isolator
June 13, 2011, 11:43 PM
Have a full size px4...ran through 2 pistol training courses without issue (over 1000 rounds each course, in one day). Love it!!

ForumSurfer
June 13, 2011, 11:52 PM
One can either buy a G model, or convert a F model, easily, no parts needed, just remove a tiny spring and ball bearing and one has a G-model, decocker - only vs the F's Safety/decocker lever/s in one.

Also, there are clean, flush fitting, stealth levers available for those that think the levers (Batwings..lol) stick out too far, for carry, or otherwise.. for all models

I wish I had known those handy bits of info when I was trading off my XDM that I didn't like at all. I had a few offers for px4's and I would have traded for them had I have known that.

Ole Coot
June 14, 2011, 05:30 PM
I have a few Beretta pistols and have never had a problem with the rotating barrel. The Beretta Cougar Mod. 8045 is my favorite carry gun and has been flawless for many years. As to recoil a female LEO I know that carries a Glock g23 tried my Beretta and in her opinion it was much easier for her to control and especially liked the grips. She could hold it on rapid fire much better than her g23 and if she could she would try and find an older Beretta to carry.

Big_John1961
June 14, 2011, 05:38 PM
Screwball, that's two fine looking pistols. Couple of questions, I have not seen a 9mm PX4 with the extended barrel. Is that an SD version, or something similar? And how do you like the .45 shooting and ergos?

Lonestar49
June 14, 2011, 06:37 PM
Just my 2 cents but the plastic recoil guide scared me stupid! His is definitely plastic...still shaking my head! Steel and I really like this gun...plastic...hmmmmm?


...

Yep, they all come with such type plastic guide rods. In all fairness, being a non-load bearing part, they work and work well for a long time, however, there are some nice *stainless steel aftermarket guide rods for them for less than 32 bucks.

They work for a long time, as well, and add a touch of, *forward, bottom weight, a good thing IMO.

Factory plastic guide rod -

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/image014.jpg

Plastic vs *stainless steel guide rod for Px4's
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/px4rod.jpg

And it all looks good

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/Picture103-1.jpg


And on another note - F model conversion to G model (decocker-only)

Here's the 2 parts one need only remove to covert F safety/decocker in one to a G decocker-only

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/PX4-G11.jpg




Ls

sch84
June 14, 2011, 07:17 PM
Lonestar, Where can I get the stainless guide rod from? Do I order them from Beretta directly?

Screwball
June 14, 2011, 10:51 PM
Screwball, that's two fine looking pistols. Couple of questions, I have not seen a 9mm PX4 with the extended barrel. Is that an SD version, or something similar? And how do you like the .45 shooting and ergos?

The barrel is from EFK. I liked the SD look, but wasn't paying for one (not a fan of OD frames, either). I set the .45 up to carry, but the 9mm is my range gun.

I bought the .45 first. I know a few people in the neighboring county that are issued the .40, and all of them recommended it. When I wanted a .45, Glocks were hard to get, and the range I bought it from had it coming in. Love it better than other .45s being it is a lot thinner double stack design. Hold one next to a Glock 21, even a SF, and you'll see. Recoil is a lot less than other .45s I've shot, as well.

Loved it so much that I got the 9mm...

Lonestar, Where can I get the stainless guide rod from? Do I order them from Beretta directly?

Bedair makes them.

http://www.guiderod.com/

Had one in my .45, but opted to stick with the stock assemblies. Easier to switch out, especially with the SD assembly I have for heavier loads.

dec41971
June 15, 2011, 12:54 AM
Was at the range yesterday the guy next to me had one that was FTFing. They took (RO and the shooter) neither could get it fixed. The group of guys I shoot with all have different 9mm. I have an M&P9, my buddy has an XDm and the other the Px4. I like the way the px4 fits my hand. I like the narrow profile. The grip is comfortable and I seem to shoot it well. However this scare me to death and I could be wrong but the spring under the barrel has a plastic recoil guide...at least it looks that way. I cleaned it and couldnt believe what I was looking at when I came across this. not sure if Beretta is still manufacturing it this way but not my cup of tea!

To be honest, I like them all. Did like the M&P over the other for how it fit my hand and the grip angle. The XDm sits high on the hand higher bore axis and the px4 is in between both the M&P and the XDm for bore axis. My M&P seems to recoil more then either..more muzzle climb as well. Have shot all three side by side same ammo same round count in the mags as a test. The Px4 was pretty smooth but all the controls drove me a little batty. So I passed on it. I still do like it and shoot it pretty well. Just my 2 cents but the plastic recoil guide scared me stupid! His is definitely plastic...still shaking my head! Steel and I really like this gun...plastic...hmmmmm?

Yes I have had this gun 3yrs and no issues other than a batch of bad Federal Ammo one time. Regarding the FTF, I have seen this and it was my fault, I dropped the little sping under the slide stop lever while cleaning it, and caused me some grief until I realized why it was not working right. Just a suggestion, check that you still have that spring in place.

Manta77
June 15, 2011, 01:58 AM
Just a heads up to anyone that has purchased or wants to purchase a compact version 9mm (only this model). There were a few that hit the market with a recoil spring that was too tight causing jams. Beretta has set up a place on their customer service section on their website to resolve the problem. You just type your serial number in and it will let you know if you need the good spring (Which they will send you free of charge).

What to look for if you see one in the store or at a gun show: The good spring has a couple of the windings pushed together near the middle, the bad one has equal gaps in the windings the entire length of the spring (the way a spring should look).

This issue can also be fixed by firing multiple boxes of +P ammo :cool: from the beginning to break it in, as the problem is said to only exist while shooting "weaker target ammo". I haven't had any issues with mine so far (it has the good spring) with 200 rounds of PMC and Aguila.

GREAT WEAPON FOR THE MONEY. Would recommend to anybody.
By the way....Nice pics on the upgrades.

Lonestar49
June 15, 2011, 01:02 PM
...

Here ya go, what to look for with the new Px4 Compact 9mm w/rotating barrels.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/fix.jpg



Ls

mdThanatos
June 17, 2011, 03:18 AM
Soap, how would you rate the recoil and muzzle climb between the PX4 and the XDm?

soapboxpreacher
June 18, 2011, 10:42 PM
From what I remember they were very close. When I shot all three side by side my M&P was noticeably more sharp than the other 2 (XDm and PX4) all with the same ammo. Muzzle climb was more noticeable on the M&P also. But I believe the PX4 was slightly less but it was nearly unnoticeable unless you shoot both for a while...I mean we are talking a hair less...unless you are looking for it and even if your are it was so hard to tell. It has been a while since I shot all three at the same time. I do shoot the XDm and the M&P side by side a lot. The more I shot the XDm the more I like it. Might be selling the M&P..it is too bad for I have a trigger job, 6 mags, bladetech holster and mag holders and all this other stuff for the M&P it is crazy! Durability of the XDm is very good. One of the guys I know at our local shop has 87k round thru it...yes...87k! He has changed springs but none that have broken...he does it as part of his normal maintenance. He is an excellent shot! One of the best! He has several other 9mm polys and use to be a glock guy. still love the glock but it is in 2nd place for his poly pick 9mm. Oh and he is not a fan of the PX4 at all. He was the one that pointed out the plastic recoil spring guide rod. But has seen a few come back (PX4) with barrel issues.

Atticaz
July 13, 2011, 06:36 PM
@SCREWBALL:

::Nevermind. I saw your reply::

Atticaz
July 16, 2011, 09:07 PM
I just got my Steve Bedair stainless steel guide rod. I ordered the captive spring version. It is made just like the the polymer factory rod. Steve said the cap is threaded to hold the spring in place. Its a bit higher in price but well worth not having to deal with the spring getting loose on me. It was $40.00 vs. $25.00. This guy does great work!!!!

Pics below:

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5898/photo1ir.jpg
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/365/photo3hw.jpg
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/1508/photo4eo.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6475/installed1.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2392/installed2w.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7484/completefm.jpg

Shipwreck
July 16, 2011, 09:59 PM
Let us know how it works when you shoot it... :)

Paulgibs
July 17, 2011, 12:56 AM
I have the PX4 Storm in 9mm and .40 cal. I've never had any operational problems in either. I do agree with some other posters that the safety is a little awkward at first, but now it is second nature for us. This is a very good, reliable firearm.

MidwestRookie
July 17, 2011, 01:01 AM
I also got my 9mm px4 in a few weeks ago...ran 150 rounds through it so far and was pleasantly surprised that the rotating barrel even helped tame the 9mm recoil..haven't had a chance to take it back out again yet, but REALLY liked it. Great shooter..

I like it so much I bought a Lasermax for it that I'm gonna sight in and then send the whole package down to my pops in florida for a late father's day gift. He was looking for a cheap 9mm like a $300 ruger something, but he won't want anything else after he gets this one, I know that for sure..

(crappy pic, but better than just text, eh?)

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab114/futuristichandgun/DSCF146550.jpg

Atticaz
July 20, 2011, 02:10 AM
Range Report with Bedair guide rod installed:

(NOTE: This is only my fifth time shooting. Not sure if 7 yards is adequate for a range report.....But.)

8 inch target at 7 yards. Average grouping is 3 inches.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7576/targete.jpg

I LOVE THIS HANDGUN!!!

NAK
July 21, 2011, 12:32 AM
I own two in .40
The older has > 6000 rounds through it, including 1800 during a weekend training course. At that number of rounds, the mag springs are finally getting to where it does not hurt your thumb to get those last two rounds in. :)

The only fail-to-feeds I have had were with my own "plinking" reloads and in each instance, the round in question failed to fit in a case Gage.

They throw brass with a passion. Somewhere out on the net there is a mod to calm that down a little.

Downside: Only .mil gets hardware to mount a supressor, and that is only on the 45

Jason_G
July 21, 2011, 11:35 AM
I shot the decocker + safety model (I don't remember which letter designation that is) that a friend brought to my house to shoot. It was in .40. I loved it. Shot great, very accurate, very soft shooting, and it almost made me want one. The only thing I don't like about them is they are a little on the bulky side for carry IMO, at least from what I remember (it was when they first came out) and those Superluminova glow in the dark sights would have to be replaced by some tritium sights if I really did want to carry it in spite of its bulk. It would be a great gun for open carry situations (woods, duty pistol, etc), but all in all, from what I remember, I just wouldn't want to carry it.

Jason

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 21, 2011, 11:43 AM
Downside: Only .mil gets hardware to mount a supressor, and that is only on the 45

I saw a tactical model with the threaded barrel in a shop once. Normal FFL's can order them, My dad has a friend thats an FFL and he gave me a print out of PX4s he could order and the last item was a Tactical model.

StrutStopper
July 22, 2011, 01:30 AM
I've got the F model in .40. I've only got about 500 rounds thru it, including 150 or so reloads, and have had no issues whatsoever. I like it.

priler
July 22, 2011, 09:46 PM
...and for all of you that keep insisting that it's because of the rotating barrel that the px4 is a soft shooter or that the rotating barrel soaks up recoil,here is my own theory on that:

it's post #24
http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/free-range-time/16489-picked-up-beretta-9-today-3.html(despite what beretta themselves claim)

..and to add: the polymer frame and the polymer surrounded "tub" should help with recoil beyond how the cougar feels,but only just a hair.

i am one of those that thinks the px4 is a "soft" shooter,but i also think people are exaggerating. i mean,it's not like your shooting a .22lr with a gun that weighs 40 oz..(or even close to that)

i'm waiting on the inox version. my plan for it is to replace what i currently use for HD and/or night stand. i just like it's recoil impulse(for the middle of the night when i'm half asleep),it's still relatively light and appreciate how beretta makes it easy to get or make 20rd mags and their D-spring that is a factory/stock part and not an after-market part,so it has no "trigger job" done to it.

..not for carry though. it can't come close or even "touch" the p99 AS for that.(on many levels,including but not limited to the p99 AS stock trigger,even when compared after adding the D-spring to the px4)(for me :D)

i think the px4 is awesome and beretta has a great product here but it has been real slow for people to realize this with other brands so firmly established. there's alot of quality built into it too. i chuckle a little every time someone says that the rotating barrel may be unreliable or that it needs an excessive amount of lube for it to be reliable. apparently these people are not aware of the fine details of this particular beretta rotating barrel system that actually contributes to reliability,especially compared with other rotating barreled guns that have come in the past or others that are being produced today.(there's a difference and it's all in the details,..lots of details)

Firewire
December 22, 2011, 03:31 PM
Good info on this thread!

Thanks guys

MikePaiN
December 22, 2011, 06:15 PM
The PX4 Storm .40 has become my go to gun. The damn things are amazing shooters, very comfortable and reliable as can be. I keep blasting away and it keeps on spiting out bullets.
I do dislike its batwing safties, I had to adjust my slingshot technique( or use the slide stop ;) ) but worth it for all the pistol's positives.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x298/Mikepain_pics/PX4/DSC04102.jpg

Atticaz
December 23, 2011, 01:39 AM
Yeah. I not a fan of the bat wings either. I am still kicking around the idea of getting the stealth levers and converting my PX to a G model.

Firewire
December 24, 2011, 01:06 AM
How easy is the slide action? I want my 11 y/o to be able to use it as well at the range. I haven't had the opportunity for him to try one. The Ruger SR9c has a dual spring captured recoil and it is pretty difficult for him to pull the slide back and then also release the slide. The single springs seem easier for him (walther p22, 9mm Springfield 1911, etc).

Batwings are good for him! lol.

LawScholar
December 24, 2011, 02:04 AM
PX4 .40 Fullsize Type F.
4 years.
3,000 rounds, roughly,
Issues of any kind: 0

There are legit reasons not to get this gun. Some don't like the safety. Some don't like DA/SA.

Reliability is not a reasonable reason to not choose the PX4. It's as reliable as any other brand.

I love mine to bits.

Michigan Trigger
December 24, 2011, 06:48 AM
I've had my PX4 in .40 for almost a year and I've put ~850 rounds through it. I really like how well it points. Initally I wanted a Sig 226, but I found the PX4 while at the big regional sporting goods store. I did my research and i decided to save about $400 by buying the PX4 instead of the 226. I do not regret my decision, as it is a fine piece to plink with...it also resides in my nightstand safe. Someday I still would like a 226, but the PX4 was all the gun I was looking for.

MikePaiN
December 24, 2011, 08:32 AM
How easy is the slide action? I want my 11 y/o to be able to use it as well at the range. The Ruger SR9c has a dual spring captured recoil and it is pretty difficult for him to pull the slide back and then also release the slide

Since I have well broken-in specimens of both the SR9c and PX4, right here in front of me I did a quick side by side racking of the slides for you :)
I don't feel a significant difference in the actual force needed to rack the side between the two. There is a HUGE difference in activation of the slide stop/release....the PX4 is much easier. With the Beretta all it takes is a flick of the thumb, the Ruger needs a concentrated effort.

Wanderling
December 24, 2011, 02:03 PM
Sorry if I am taking this off-topic, but it seems that there's plenty of Px4 experts in this thread.

I know that all who own this gun swear by it's accuracy. Everything I read on the net suggests it's a very accurate pistol.

A friend of mine has a Px4 that both of us shoot. It's a beautiful gun and a pleasure to hold and to shoot, but... it's not awfully accurate, both of us have much harder time hitting POA with it than with my G17.

I don't think it's sights issue because the shots are all over; probably more to the lower left but a lot of shots to the right. It's a marked difference when we compare targets from Px4 to the targets from G17. The difference is visible both in the spread of the groups off center (if this makes sense) and the group size.

As I said, I don't think it's the sights. Since both of us are having the same problem, it's not the shooter either. I don't see trigger pull being an issue, the SA pull is not that different from Glock. What else could it be ? Anything to look for ? Are there any known issues with production batches ? The gun is almost brand new and pretty clean, so it's not worn out or fouled up. Thanks !

labhound
December 24, 2011, 03:06 PM
My PX4 9mm is one of the most accurate guns I own, right up there with my Beretta 92FS and only surpassed by my Nighthawk Talon 1911. I haven't heard of any known production troubles concerning accuracy of the PX4. PX4 sights are POA/POI, you have to put the front sight directly on the center of your target and not at a 6 o'clock hold like some guns.

LawScholar
December 24, 2011, 03:48 PM
My PX4 .40 is deadly accurate. I set up dozens of little 4 inch clay pigeons at about 100 feet frequently and it surgically deals with them.

WRGADog
December 25, 2011, 11:32 PM
A full size, compact, and subcompact, all are 9mm, and all have performed flawlessly. If you decide on the PX4 you will not be disappointed with the accuracy, reliability, or overall performance of the gun. My favorite is the compact. The size is similar to a G19, and fits my hand great.

Firewire
December 26, 2011, 01:26 AM
I hope to locate a Compact locally to handle. Plenty of full and subcompacts around.

CDR_Glock
December 26, 2011, 01:44 AM
I have a Compact 9mm.

Aside from the external safety, I like shooting it. Handles well. Sights are good. 17+1 capacity is a plus. Recoil is easily manageable. Easy to field strip and reassemble.

I like my guide rod, and like Glocks, I find no need in accessories - except night sights.

fishblade2
December 30, 2011, 11:32 PM
I own a beretta PX4 Storm in .45 caliber. I personally love the gun. There are a couple of features I don't prefer. I think the size of the gun is just too big. Maybe my hands are too small but pulling the trigger is a little awkward especially after the first first and I'm resetting the trigger. The recoil is not bad and easily controllable with the proper grip. The only main other issue I have is that it seems to shoot a little high on my gun. I had several friends shoot too and they shot high as well. I even move targets closer to test more and we figured that the gun had to be aimed at the bottom of a target and, depending on the distance, possibly lower that that. This could be just my gun. I have not fired it enough to make a complete review but I will be back at the range tomorrow shooting plenty of rounds out of it. I will do some more tests and through practice gain a complete review to post again for you. Overall, for now, though I love the gun! I am a gun collector though so I love most guns unless they are just absolutely awful...

StrutStopper
December 31, 2011, 03:12 PM
I own a beretta PX4 Storm in .45 caliber. I personally love the gun. There are a couple of features I don't prefer. I think the size of the gun is just too big. Maybe my hands are too small but pulling the trigger is a little awkward especially after the first first and I'm resetting the trigger. The recoil is not bad and easily controllable with the proper grip. The only main other issue I have is that it seems to shoot a little high on my gun. I had several friends shoot too and they shot high as well. I even move targets closer to test more and we figured that the gun had to be aimed at the bottom of a target and, depending on the distance, possibly lower that that. This could be just my gun. I have not fired it enough to make a complete review but I will be back at the range tomorrow shooting plenty of rounds out of it. I will do some more tests and through practice gain a complete review to post again for you. Overall, for now, though I love the gun! I am a gun collector though so I love most guns unless they are just absolutely awful...
Are you using the small backstrap insert on the handle?

richardKatts
December 31, 2011, 07:52 PM
I like my SubCompact PX4 much better than the SR9c it replaced. Carry's well and fits my hand well.

Very accurate too.
I've been carrying the PX4 more often lately than my P238 and can find nothing that I don't like about it. :)

fishblade2
January 1, 2012, 05:35 PM
I have the middle size one. I have tried many times to take off the backstrap but was unsuccessful.

Michigan Trigger
January 1, 2012, 06:07 PM
Exchanging the backstrap is not particularly easy with the PX4. It took me about 15 to 20 minutes to swap it out the first time. If I recall, the user manual has a couple of illustrations on how to swap out one of the other sizes. The steel u-shaped clip is a pain to remove. This is one issue with the PX4 that I wish Beretta had put more thought into while designing this piece. Other autos' backstraps are usually a lot easier to swap out.

Firewire
January 1, 2012, 07:04 PM
I got to try the Full Size and Sub-compact side by side today (held in hand - not range shooting). The Full size is noticeable easier to rack the slide than the sub-compact.

Now if only I could find a compact to try. I am hoping it is more like the full size in ease of slide racking so my 11 y/o can use it as well.

Anyone know if the Compact is more like the full size or sub-compact in terms of slide racking resistance?

LawScholar
January 1, 2012, 11:34 PM
I got to try the Full Size and Sub-compact side by side today (held in hand - not range shooting). The Full size is noticeable easier to rack the slide than the sub-compact.

Now if only I could find a compact to try. I am hoping it is more like the full size in ease of slide racking so my 11 y/o can use it as well.

Anyone know if the Compact is more like the full size or sub-compact in terms of slide racking resistance?

I would assume the Compact is more like the Fullsize than the Sub, since the Fullsize and Compact use the rotating locking action and the Sub does not.

mrcattleman
January 9, 2012, 06:10 PM
I have had a full size 9mm PX4 for almost a year now and love it. The only issue I have had is that the magazines don't drop freely. Has anyone else had this issue with their PX4?

talist
January 9, 2012, 06:50 PM
Another full size PX4 Type F owner here. It's a great gun and shoots very well. I'm nursing a scraped thumb right now from trying to get the U-Clip out to replace the grip last night. I echo the other comments regarding that design.

I'm sure it's the size of my hands, but it's a bit of a stretch to engage the safety/decocker with the thumb of my shooting hand. Putting the smaller grip on appears to have helped, but time will tell.

All that said, I've got a couple thousand rounds through it consisting of factory loads and reloads. Unit went bang every time.


Talist

357SIG
January 9, 2012, 07:15 PM
I've had (well, my wife has) a 9mm PX4 G model for a few years now. It is excellent. It shoots much like my 92FS, but with a lighter DA pull. Capacity is excellent for its size.

Fishman777
January 10, 2012, 09:18 PM
I like them, but not enough to buy one. I really don't like the balance. I haven't shot one in a few years, but I remember thinking that the gun felt somewhat muzzle heavy to me. I also don't really think of bruniton as being a premium finnish. If I got one, I'd consider getting it refinished with something different.

I prefer the M&P and the XD pistols over the PX4 pistols. That being said, I think that they are very good quality guns. If you like DA/SA pistols, they are very solid choices.

LawScholar
January 21, 2012, 02:36 AM
I have had a full size 9mm PX4 for almost a year now and love it. The only issue I have had is that the magazines don't drop freely. Has anyone else had this issue with their PX4?

That's not good. Mine fly out of the magwell.

5-SHOTS
January 21, 2012, 02:17 PM
From my experience the cons are:
1)very tight chambers on some examples meaning FTFs with some brands of ammo;
2)sights not always adjusted well from factory.

I personally don't like the position of the decocker, for that reason I prefere the G version because I don't want the possibility of an accidental engage of the safety in a hurry.

memphisjim
January 21, 2012, 02:28 PM
i have had personal experience with a couger in 40s&w
it was not a reliable gun (at least 1 hiccup every 2 mags)
it is one of only 2 pistols ive seen malfunction (other was a 380 sigma)

fishblade2
January 23, 2012, 04:07 PM
My question overall is about some customizing to them. I noticed some of the posts showed customized PX4 storms. I was wondering what all have people done to them to help with feel and just for the heck of having the attachment. I am interested in changing the sights out for it but don't know the process, cost, the amount of hazzle, the danger of it not being sighted properly, and the websites to go that have great upgrades that fit the PX4 Storm. I have a full size in 45 caliber. Lastly can the back sights be adjusted or are they just stuck the way they are? Thanks for the help!

Michigan Trigger
January 26, 2012, 01:30 AM
I does seem more difficult to find "custom" aftermarket stuff for the PX4. As far as night sights, Trijicon and Meprolight make night sights for the PX4.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/trijicon-beretta-px4-storm-3-dot-front-rear-night-sight-set-be10.html
Trijicon sights for $115

http://www.opticsplanet.net/meprolight-night-sights-for-beretta-pistols-and-handguns.html
Meprolight sights for $82

fishblade2
January 26, 2012, 02:16 PM
what would it take to exchange them. Is it an easy process? Thanks for the help!

littlebluevette
January 26, 2012, 02:37 PM
I sent my slidder out to Tooltech and they installed the trijicon night sights. The turn around time was about 2.5 weeks. http://www.tooltechgunsight.com/

I have a few 1,000 rounds thru my 9m compact PX4. It is a great gun to shoot, very smooth action, low kickback. The only thing I don't like about it is is too large for me to deep cc.

Michigan Trigger
January 26, 2012, 07:02 PM
Sry...here's the links i thought i entered correctly last night. here's a discounted spot for some sights

http://www.opticsplanet.net/trijicon-beretta-px4-storm-3-dot-front-rear-night-sight-set-be10.html
$115

http://www.opticsplanet.net/meprolight-night-sights-for-beretta-pistols-and-handguns.html
$82

samseymour9514
May 13, 2012, 12:34 AM
does any body know where to get a steel
guid rod thanks

Atticaz
May 13, 2012, 01:46 AM
Steve Bedair at http://guiderod.com/ But he is not taking orders right now. He's working on a large project of some sort. I sure he will let you know when he will be talking orders again, if you email him. He's a very cool guy and does a great job.

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