Many years ago, I owned a Llama 1911-style .22 semi-auto. The concept was great and the design very appealing, but the QUALITY was sadly lacking. Now, this Browning at 15 ounces and in a compact package just might replace that Llama (which went down the road decades ago).
I'm looking forward to handling this one. I thought I had "enough" shootin' irons (HAH) but Ruger announced their 1911, AND the left-handed Gunsite Scout, AND now this Browning .22....is there no end? I can't keep up!
June 13, 2011, 06:37 PM
Ad written by somebody who thinks a .45 is blowback operated.
I noticed that too. Pitiful.
The funny thing is that although Browning made the first ones (prototypes) I don't think he had a company back then, right? He was just a designer, selling the rights to others.
I think the original mfrs. were (correct me if I'm wrong) Remington, Colt, and Ithica. So yeah, the company is about 100 years late.
Conversely, I wonder how long it is going to take the likes of S&W, Ruger, Springfield Armory, etc. to realize there's a market for Hi-Powers.
Kind of like how Disney went WILD with fairy tale stories a few years back, and how GM and Ford are reaching back to the 60s and 70s for design inspiration again; I bet the gun world is going to run with the a classic design theme soon.
June 13, 2011, 06:47 PM
I honestly wouldn't mind a 3/4 .22 1911. Great little range plinker/ woods gun.
I'm all on board with this concept as well.
You're right, we are absolutely drowning in super lightweight .22 rimfires that are ideally sized for my young son's hands.
And I'd add a "high quality" to lightweight as well. Maybe something to give the Beretta 87 a run for its money.
On other threads, some folks seem to be hung up on the fact that the 1911-22 won't be selling at Chiappa prices. Well guess what? It costs a little more to make a gun out of something other than plastic and zinc. Maybe my old age is showing, but the "I want it dirt cheap and right now" crowd gets my hackles up. Plenty of other guns out there for those guys.
June 13, 2011, 06:47 PM
First of all, "Browning" isn't going to manufacture this. Browning doesn't manufacture any guns and as far as I know, never has. Browning is just a marketing firm, and all its guns are made by contractors.
This new .22 will likely be produced by Arms Technology Incorporated, the same company that makes the Buck Mark.
June 13, 2011, 07:44 PM
Oh, wow! My father-in-law was a child in the Philippines, when the Japanese occupied the country during WWII. He told me once before that he had this particular pistol. I didn't really beleive him since I have never heard of a Browning 1911 in 22LR (yeah, right gun know it all guy:o). That's so neat.
June 13, 2011, 08:01 PM
I was in a shop last year when the Browning Rep brought one in for 'show and tell'. It's about the size of the Llama, but much lighter. He let me take it to the back and it shoots pretty good.
I saw the same Rep last week and he was bemoaning the fact that they weren't being produced fast enough. He was tired of getting grief from gunshop owners wondering where their guns are. I'm hoping they catch up pretty soon.
June 13, 2011, 09:08 PM
I have a Colt Ace--1911 frame with a .22 slide
These were made during WW2 to train GI's how to shoot a Colt 1911.
What a joke--can you imagine the shock when the guys fired a 45 1911 OUCH
June 13, 2011, 10:45 PM
The .45 in that set is made by FN in South Carolina.
June 13, 2011, 11:17 PM
EDIT: Oh. $4,669 for the SET!
That's a lot for what appears to be a park'd finish. Sure, it's correct, but still...
June 14, 2011, 12:39 PM
That's $4669 for a 1911-22 and a 1911-45.
And $1339 for the 1911-22 and a Ka-Bar knife. The 1911-22 even comes with a US-embossed leather holster sized to fit.
"The .45 in that set is made by FN in South Carolina." Thanks for the info Micro.
I'm looking forward to an FN/Browning 1911-45 on the market soon then....
June 14, 2011, 02:24 PM
The 3/4 scale 1911-22 Browning is going to make is Blow-Back operated.
It's a .22 rim-fire, and a locked breach isn't necessary, and probably wouldn't even work.
June 14, 2011, 03:15 PM
True, but the ad said the .45 is blowback.
Interesting that FN-USA is tooling up for 1911s.
June 14, 2011, 09:19 PM
I don't know if they are tooling up or not. But the latest issue of American Rifleman reviewed the current crop of comemorative 1911s and says FN in SC is the producer of Browning's 1911. No word if they will be produced after this run.
June 14, 2011, 11:35 PM
Many years ago, I owned a Llama 1911-style .22 semi-auto. The concept was great and the design very appealing, but the QUALITY was sadly lacking.
Those Llamas are all steel, no contest in my opinion. There's a bunch of garbage metal .22's come out lately, I won't give a dime for any of them. I have a few of the Llamas in .380 and feel that they deserve a better reputation, mine work very well indeed and there's no zinc or aluminum at all in them.
June 15, 2011, 11:14 AM
Why do poeple have a problem with so many manufacturers making 1911 pistols? If there wasn't a market for them, they wouldn't be making them or selling them. If you 1911 bashers are happy with your plastic crap, great. I for one, am looking forward to the new Browning 1911-22. It's a Browning, it's a 1911, and it's a 22LR, what's not to like? 1911's RULE!!!! And if you were making 1911s in your garage, you too could be making the big bucks.
June 15, 2011, 01:35 PM
ATI is doing the alloy frame/alloy slide .22, same plant as the Buckmarks.
And I doubt you'll see any American makers producing the Hi-Power.
There really isn't enough market for one.
FNUSA brought in their FN-made & FN-marked Hi-Powers a while back, dropped the idea when they decided they were essentially creating a situation where two FN-owned US companies were competing with themselves on the same product & sales didn't justify both.
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