Heritage vs. Single Six???


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AKElroy
June 13, 2011, 09:27 PM
I have been in the mood for a Ruger Single-Six .22LR / Mag Conversion. This weekend I was at a hardware store in Brady, and they had the Heritage combo for $169.00.

That's dirt cheap, and it seams like a decent truck .22. Any feedback on which I should buy?

http://www.heritagemfg.com/site/index.cfm?CFID=21822658&CFTOKEN=abefca2adb16580-8B882F9B-CFD0-2FAF-FB789260E0B1282F

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oldfool
June 13, 2011, 09:33 PM
no contest, the Ruger, unless hurting for cash
whole different class of gun than the Heritage re: quality and durability
(there are 72 posts just down page on the Heritage topic, for further discussion, by the way)

jad0110
June 13, 2011, 09:42 PM
The Ruger is clearly nicer, but you just have to make your own judgement call on whether or not it is worth the extra money over the Heritage.

The Heritage goes for about $170 in my area as well, whereas the Rugers seem to start at $500. Is the Ruger nicer? Yes. Is it 2x as nice? I suppose. 3x as nice? For me, no, but YMMV. I went with the Heritage, and for me, it is a fun gun for the money.

If I could find a used Ruger for under $300, I'd jump on it, but they sell for at least as much as new ones where I live.

RugerMcMarlin
June 13, 2011, 11:33 PM
My favorite 22 handgun, is a Ruger single six,3 screw, the model after the flat gate. It has no finish, dark plastic grips. I gave $250 for it at an Auction! bidding against 3 or 4 other guys. It is a model that didn't have a mag cylinder, so the barrel is sized for 22lr, not both. The convertable models have a little larger bore dia. for the mags. affects accuracy with the long rifle shells. This one is hands down the most accurate 22 i have ever had. It shades my K-22! Any who, it sounds like it will live in the truck. So it depends how much loot you want under the seat. I would probably get a heritage, but I would get a used one, for sure in either case.

jbkebert
June 13, 2011, 11:37 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=595959

I own both. The Ruger by far is the better gun. However i have beat the hell out of my Rough Rider and it keeps on plinking away. Finish not nearly as nice, as a whole not as accurate. I bought mine to carry on a trap line/truck gun. Figured if I lost it in a pond or creek trapping I wasn't going to be out a lot of $$. I have been pleasantly surprised with it durability and pretty decent accuracy.

jhansman
June 14, 2011, 12:04 AM
I paid about $400 for my Single Six and thus far it has been worth every penny. It's my first .22 revolver and I'm still learning how to shoot it, but I'm very glad it's in my collection.

sixgunner455
June 14, 2011, 01:35 AM
If you can afford the Ruger, get the Ruger.

CraigC
June 14, 2011, 02:44 AM
The Heritage is a cheap gun and priced accordingly. They are made as cheaply as possible with press-fit, glued-in barrels, pot metal frames, spray-on finishes and plastic ejectors prone to breakage. Whereas the Ruger is built just like the centerfires and of the same materials. Used Single Sixes under $300 are not a rarity, I've got three that were $200-$250. New blued ones are $400.

toivo
June 14, 2011, 04:39 AM
Used Single Sixes under $300 are not a rarity, I've got three that were $200-$250.
Look around -- search Gunbroker and Auction Arms every day. I lucked out and got a new-old-stock Single Six for $330 on Gunbroker. It was a discontinued model: 4 5/8" barrel and fixed sights. But that's exactly what I wanted. :D

CajunBass
June 14, 2011, 04:49 AM
If you plan to toss it in a glove box, or behind the seat of a pickup truck, a practice I wouldn't do for what it's worth, you might as well get a Heritage. No sense in beating up a nice gun like a Ruger Single-Six. The Heritage's I've seen look to be worth what you pay for them.

If on the other hand you want a gun worth taking care of get a Ruger. Again, personally, I'd look on the used rack first, but then I do that automatically anyway. Not too long ago, I found two "Old Model" Single Sixs for $250.00 each. Well worth the money.

RugerMcMarlin
June 14, 2011, 04:50 AM
Craig C, could you go thru your spiel about the rough rider again, only this time don't hold back so much, really get it off your chest!




(Guys watch the vein on his forehead.)

evan price
June 14, 2011, 06:29 AM
I wanted a 22 single action "For the kids" and was tempted by the Rough Riders, they were marked $149 around here on sale recently. When I was looking they were on sale for $169 for the convertible with both cylinders, 22lr and 22wmr. The thumb safety on a single action puzzled me until I realized it was to comply with BATFEs import "points" system. Quality was not terrible but just not that awesome either. It would be a great gun for a tacklebox. Sort of the High Point of single-action .22 revolvers.

But hidden at the back corner of the bottom shelf of a display cabinet I spied a Ruger Single Six Convertible with the 22LR and 22WMR cylinders. It was literally under a long-barreled Blackhawk with the tag turned underneath. Seems this particular gunstore, the employees are not allowed to buy a used trade-in gun until it spends a week in the display case for the public to buy and certain employees might possibly conceal the good 'uns and hope they stay hidden for the week- it's why a small flashlight is very useful at this particular store...

Anyway, the Ruger was $219. Looked rough, had a trigger problem. Turned out to have never been cleaned and the trigger problem was because it was so dirty the cylinder pin would not go all the way in. A disassembly and cleaning revealed a very nice condition (easy 95%) 7.5" New Model Super Single Six Convertible (walnut grips & target sights) and both cylinders, with the transfer bar, but I don't mind those.

Fifty bucks more for a Ruger Super Single Six Convertible? Heck, I couldn't peel the cash off fast enough.

oldfool
June 14, 2011, 08:03 AM
"the High Point of single-action .22 revolvers"

best description I ever heard, well done

PS
and what Craig C said was strictly factual, no vein popping req'd
all you need do is pick one up in your hand and look closely
whether or not a Heritage RR would be prone to expanded cylinder failures, that I don't know
(but they will mostly go bang... if you don't bang 'em around in the truck too much)

rogertc1
June 14, 2011, 08:33 AM
The Heritage is a good tackle box SA revolver. Made good enough to lasta life time. Ruger is nice too....depends on what you want. get both or maybe yo will get luckey and find a used Ruger for under $200?
Check Gunbroker.com. ($400 and up for Ruger) Buds guns too. (S149 each for a combo)
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_577/products_id/411544714
Heck you could get 2 Haritages and if you go on their on-line store they have really inexpensive leather for it to strap on...if your not fat like me. $79 for a Mexican Double Loop - SB Belt & one Holster 119 3 holsters
http://www.heritagemfg.com/site/product.cfm?id=1620

RugerMcMarlin
June 14, 2011, 09:18 AM
I didnt say it wasnt true . I just get tickled when gets all on his high horse.

CraigC
June 14, 2011, 11:51 AM
Craig C, could you go thru your spiel about the rough rider again, only this time don't hold back so much, really get it off your chest!
I just tire of holding back the truth so that some folks don't get their feelings hurt. Political correctness ain't my way. He asked, I answered. Problem lies with those who have convinced themselves that they got something cheap that's "just as good" and then get defensive when you tell the truth. Tell some folks that a Ruger is better than a Heritage and they get their drawers in a bunch. Tell most folks that a Freedom Arms is better than a Ruger, or that a USFA is better than a Uberti and everybody will agree. What's the difference?

Vern Humphrey
June 14, 2011, 12:37 PM
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Kendal Black
June 14, 2011, 04:00 PM
A good .22 revolver is useful for many tasks and enjoyable to shoot, as well. For some people it becomes an everyday companion. My suggestion is to get the Ruger and economize elsewhere.

RugerMcMarlin
June 14, 2011, 09:20 PM
Craig C, I have 3 Ruger SA 22s, as yet no heritage rough riders. I doubt very much if being PC was ever an issue. I went back over the posts, I'm not finding anybody saying they are just as good.?! Or better. When I go down and buy 2 tomorrow with buscadero rig I am doing so purely for my entertainment. You got nothing to do with it.

AKElroy
June 14, 2011, 09:50 PM
I appreciate the lively comments. I did some homework on GB, and there are, as an earlier post showed, several clean used single six combos available for decent prices. I will be going that route. Thanks to all.

Ole Coot
June 15, 2011, 09:43 AM
I purchased my Single Six around 1980 or so, 6 1/2 bbl SS and it quality. I open carry for snakes and other critters and it is everything I want in that type of revolver. I would look for a used one and if you want dependability go for it. If a product is "cheap" compared to the majority of similar items it is. You do get what you pay for most of the time.

Nanook
June 15, 2011, 09:06 PM
I owned a Heritage Rough Rider once. It was okay, for what it was.

Then, I stumbled upon a deal for a lightly used Ruger Single Six. I sold the Rough Rider to a guy who really liked it, and bought the Ruger.

Both of us have lived happily ever after. :)

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