Kel-Tec P-32, range report


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MedWheeler
June 23, 2011, 08:37 PM
Due to the somewhat increasing frequency of occasions in which belt carrying of my PF-9 is not practical, I've decided to get a pocket-carry-capable piece. After much thought, I settled on the KT-P32. Though I considered the P-3AT, I went with this one for the following reason: less snappy (the recoil of my early Grendel P-10, and of my PF-9 push my abilities for quick re-acquisition for follow-up shots), the presence of a slide-lock, and the addition of one round in capacity. Also, in a pinch, my wife, a markedly diminutive lady, could be armed with it.
Today, I headed to an all-day-pay outdoor range with this gun, my other two carry guns (PF-9 and Bersa Thunder 380), and ammunition. For the P-32, I had only 100 rounds of WWB 71-grain FMJ-FN ammo (the last two WM had in stock.)
I arrived to find the range closed for a special event, and went instead to an hourly-pay indoor range. Because of the time constraints there, I was now not going to shoot the other guns I also had brought along (two revolvers, and two .22LR autos.)
Once posted on the line, I loaded up the new KT, and ran a casual-fire session on a silhouette target at a range of 21 feet (7 yards.)
I found the P-32 to be not entirely without snappish-ness, but it is easily handled. I might have had more issue with it at the outdoor range, as temperatures were well north of ninety degrees,a nd my hands would have been quite sweaty. I could feel the grip on this little scale-tickler wanting to work upward in my hand from time to time.
About half my shooting was done with one hand. I actually found that to be fairly easy to keep on target, something that I previously had a harder time with on my PF-9. All my rounds were easy to keep in an area suitable for defensive use during offhand fire, about the size of my closed fist if I tried, and the size of my open hand if I didn't.
I had one case of rimlock. This occurred at probably the 24th round or so (into the fourth magazine.) I've never experienced this before so, of course, the TRB drill didn't work. I removed the magazine, and still could not push the round forward. After manipulating the round downward some, and giving the magazine some firm slaps in my hand, the round was able to be freed. I shot out the rest of the mag, reloaded that round into it, chambered it, and fired it without further issue. The remainder of the session was finished without any other malfunctions.
I fired a total of 92 rounds, keeping eight left left over for carry use until I can stop back in somewhere and get a more suitable round. I was amazed at how fast I went through them. After searching here for "rimlock", I will likely go with a hot FMJ load such as the Fiocchi, or maybe a S&B one.
I found the gun to be quite a little delight to shoot, kind of reminding me of my old Jennings J-22 in handling, though I haven't shot that thing in maybe two decades. I had no trouble fully re-setting the trigger (never did on my PF-9, either), even in rapid-fire. I can see this piece being a viable carry option as a pocket-holster gun, and I do already have a PH for it. As with many new Kel-Tec pieces, it has some little burrs and other marks of "unfinishedness" about it, but nothing that hampered function or carry. My PF-9 is much more "finished", but I'm not the original owner of that, so someone may have done a F&B on it before.
Incidentally, I switched to the PF-9 after shooting the new P-32. The PF-9 is remarkably small but, after spending time with its little sister, it feels like a service weapon, filling my hand and actually showing some heft it was never known to possess before. I also learned during the session that I can actually shoot this thing better than I thought I could. The last two times I shot the 9, I was at the outdoor range, with sweat running into my eyes and all over my hands, and just didn't feel I did as well, coming away with the impression that this is not a "range-time" piece. Not anymore. I really enjoyed it today, even one-handed shooting (something I'd not done before with it.) Rapid-fire, one-handed shooting was even more than just manageable.
So, that's that. The PF-9 will remain my first carry gun. It has done so since I proofed it more than a year ago when I got it, being on me pretty much any time I am out of bed. But, I am pleased that the P-32 will make an exceptional second option for "shirt-tucked-in" occasions, and maybe even as a BUG or "NY-reload" when the PF-9 is carried, such as during my once-per-week pizza delivery job.
I will source another magazine for it, though, as that is the fastest way to alleviate a rimlock situation (something I plan to insure doesn't happen again.)

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FruitCake
June 23, 2011, 08:50 PM
I have P32 and love it. Had the PF9 and didn't like it all that much to shoot. Might consider a Kahr P9. But I do LOVE my P32.

foxmoor
June 23, 2011, 09:23 PM
I shoot S&B in my P32 and have never had an issue with rimlock. It's an under-rated little shooter - great for pocket carry.

I have paired my P32 with a Kahr P9 and could not be happier with the combo.

Kent in MI

bigfatdave
June 23, 2011, 09:27 PM
I have one too, and it does point nice and naturally, and it is surprisingly easy to shoot well.
Mine doesn't have grip issues with sweaty hands, don't worry too much about that unless you have greasy hands.

And mine doesn't like the cheapo flat-nose WWB ammo either, you'd want to install a "flyer wire" or the KT HP adapter kit (which I can't seem to find at the moment, I could have sworn they offered such a thing at one point)
http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/flyerwire.htm
http://www.ktrange.com/articles/a5/a5.html

But a hotter euro loading of FMJ is what I use on the rare occasions I need the P32's discretion, I'll take penetration over expansion and if I look carefully at gunshows I can find good ammo at similar prices to what WM charges for WWB.

RevolvingGarbage
June 23, 2011, 10:28 PM
My friend just bought one for $200 about a month ago. We fired about 60 rounds through it with zero malfunctions.

Does anyone know of any more ergonomic/aesthetic magazine extensions other than the KT factory offering? Something that looks more like a PPK/S extension?

jonnyc
June 23, 2011, 11:39 PM
I've carried my P32 for years; been very reliable. Rimlock usually only happens with shorter JHP rounds, not FMJ. I would only carry a certain round/load after at least 200 trouble-free rounds. I prefer RWS or Prvi Partisan, and I've stocked-up a bit of both.

Shadow 7D
June 23, 2011, 11:44 PM
Anything that works for the P-3AT or LCP will work with the P32, and I think some of the Beretta Tomcat mag extensions work too.

Check out KTOG.org, they would know for sure.

toivo
June 24, 2011, 12:33 AM
As others have said, it's only shorter rounds that rimlock: hollowpoints or flat-nose. I don't see the magazine adapters on the KT website anymore. I would give them a call and see if they're still available. IIRC, you used to be able to get them for both the 7-round and the 10-round magazines. I bought one for one of my 7-round mags because the flat-nose Winchester White Box stuff seems to be the only kind of .32 I can reliably find in most of the stores around here.

orionengnr
June 24, 2011, 01:03 AM
I had one about five years ago. Never locked open on an empty mag. Bought a new mag, tried a variety of ammo, no change. Contacted K-T, they sent me new springs, new slide stop, no change.

This was consistent with my three other experiences with K-Ts. F&B, new mags, new springs and parts (always free from K-T), but in the end, still an unreliable firearm.

I no longer own a K-T, nor will I in the future.

As far as the .32 cartiridge goes, after firing a P32 and a P3AT back to back, I was rather shocked at the relative lack of power the .32 has (see Newton's Third Law).

In the interim, I have come to view the 9mm as a minimum, the .380 as marginal, and anything less as unacceptable.

Those are my conclusions, and I do not expect you to accept them...

Jim Watson
June 24, 2011, 01:07 AM
My P32 gets Fiocchi FMJ and gives no trouble after an inital fluff and buff to remove draggy tool marks. I went for a while with a Fiocchi or WW hollowpoint in the chamber and ball in the magazine but concluded that gave no advantage.

Jim NE
June 24, 2011, 01:27 AM
I almost bought a P32 the other day. I really like the P11 I bought recently, but I know they are an acquired taste for some shooters.

The thing is, before I took the P11 to the range, I tried chambering a few live rounds and ejecting them. I found that some of the 9mm rounds wouldn't chamber, so I took the gun apart and polished smooth the barrel feed ramp, the barrel lug, the chamber rim and other odds and ends. After that, it chambered like a different gun...very reliably. When I took it to the range for the first time a few days later, it worked flawlessly.

I wonder if that was MedWheelers problem. I like Keltecs, but knowing what I know now, I would never shoot one before polishing it up first.

Enjoy the P32! Sounds like fun :)

Snowdog
June 24, 2011, 03:55 AM
I purchased my P32 as soon as they hit the shelves. Mine has the old style extractor (serial number #013XX), though I've never experienced any extraction issues.
I've also never experienced rim-lock, though I switched exclusively to FMJ very early on.

My P32 isn't something I take to the range much, but I do run a box of ammunition though it about once a year. I can't speak much for longevity as mine has a round count of perhaps 700 or so, 90% being of S&B or Fiocchi 73gr FMJ. I'm quite fond of this pistol, as diminutive as it is.

As for the the performance of .32acp, 7.65 Browning ball ammunition has surprising penetrative capabilities. Though it's obviously best not to compare its ballistics directly to those belonging to the 9mm or .40 S&W, it certainly does shine when compared to other cartridges chambered for pistols of comparable size (mainly .22LR and .25acp).

I consider my P32 as a "two-to-the-face" pistol and I'm convinced in this regard the P32 will serve as a perfectly capable defensive tool.

makarovnik
June 24, 2011, 04:54 AM
I bought two. I chose it over the P3AT because at the time .32 acp ammo was cheaper and more available. I also like the extra round, last round hold open and low recoil. Trigger goes on forever.

pockets
June 24, 2011, 08:21 AM
Of the Kel-Tec line; have two P32's (1st & 2nd Gen), two P3AT's, and a PF9....all have been 100% reliable over enough rounds that I have lost count. I only use FMJ in the .32's though...usually S&B or Fiocchi.
I usually carry a 2nd Gen Kel-Tec P32 more often than any other type/brand.
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Onward Allusion
June 24, 2011, 01:42 PM
MedWheeler
Kel-Tec P-32, range report

Some thoughts & suggestions...

- Load the mag very carefully to avoid rimlock. Helps to compare the overall length of various cartridges. There are very slight variations. Avoid having HP in the mag.
- Load a Buffalo Bore or another "+P" (doesn't really exist for the 32) in the chamber and load the mag with FMJ.
- Don't believe the S&B numbers. They are fired from a 6 inch barrel whereas most manufacturers use 4" barrels.
- 10 round mags for the P32 are not ready for prime time. Maybe it's been fixed but as of 6 months ago, none of them worked well for me.

bigfatdave
June 24, 2011, 04:12 PM
- 10 round mags for the P32 are not ready for prime time. Maybe it's been fixed but as of 6 months ago, none of them worked well for me. Mine work fine with ball ammo of the proper length. I have three of various ages, maybe you bought old stock?

verdun59
June 24, 2011, 04:23 PM
I've had a P32 since they first came out and have never had a problem with it and that's with no F&B. I try to only shoot Fiocchi as it runs very well in it. A soft shooter that will fit in your shirt pocket. Now don't ask me about the P11 I had, had being the operative word.

FREERANGETIME!
June 24, 2011, 05:50 PM
The lower profile pinkie rests from the Diamondback .380 fit my P3AT mags, it may be worth looking into seeing if they fit the P32 mags, they are similar in profile to the ones on the factory LCP mags. Or you could do like I did and get some of the Pearce extensions and just file and grind on them until you got em how you want em.

Quiet
June 24, 2011, 08:45 PM
I've had my 1st gen Kel-Tec P-32 for about 8 years now.

Over the course of those years, it has had approximately 3000 rounds through it with 4 failure-to-feed stoppages due to problems with a 10 round magazine and 5 failure-to-fire due to trigger reset problems. The failures occurred during the first 500 rounds and Kel-Tec fixed all the problems for free.

I shot Winchester 60gr "silvertip" JHPs, Winchester 71gr FMJs, Magtech 71gr FMJs, Fiocchi 73gr FMJs, Federal 65gr "hydrashok" JHPs and Federal 71gr FMJs through it. My preferred ammo of choice is the Fiocchi 73gr FMJs.

It had decent accuracy for being a pocketgun and felt recoil is less than the .380ACP pocketguns.

I've carried it IWB, ankle, neck chain, cargo pocket and front pocket. I even carried it in a ziplock bag in swim trunks at the pools at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas. It's normally carried in a front pocket in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster.

Overall, I am pleased with the Kel-Tec P-32 in it's role as a pocketgun and I would recommend for anyone looking for a decent pocketgun.

MedWheeler
June 24, 2011, 09:35 PM
Orionengnr offered (for whatever reason):

I had one about five years ago. Never locked open on an empty mag. Bought a new mag, tried a variety of ammo, no change. Contacted K-T, they sent me new springs, new slide stop, no change.

This was consistent with my three other experiences with K-Ts. F&B, new mags, new springs and parts (always free from K-T), but in the end, still an unreliable firearm.

I no longer own a K-T, nor will I in the future.

As far as the .32 cartiridge goes, after firing a P32 and a P3AT back to back, I was rather shocked at the relative lack of power the .32 has (see Newton's Third Law).

In the interim, I have come to view the 9mm as a minimum, the .380 as marginal, and anything less as unacceptable.

Those are my conclusions, and I do not expect you to accept them...

Then why did you waste our time, and yours, posting them? Actually, you are wrong; I certainly accept them as your conclusions. (I just don't see where anyone asked for them.) If you had a bad experience with a KT firearm, fine. Post that if you want. As you can see by the 16 or so posts above, you are grossly outnumbered. As you admit, neither I nor anyone else here is going to run out and trade in our P-32s for what you recommend.

franco45
June 24, 2011, 11:46 PM
Yup, conclusions are like, oh wait those are opinions. Well maybe some people can't tell the difference between an opinion and a conclusion. I had 2 P32s. I gave one to my nephew and sold the other to a friend. Both were utterly reliable. I guess I learned not to 'limp wrist' a Kel-Tec. I am waiting for number 3 to show up at my FFL. ;)

Shadow 7D
June 25, 2011, 12:02 AM
Gees, I limpwristed one of my KT..
A P40

As for the P32
Great gun, one of the Most 'Mosts' for me
most concealable
Most rounds
most shootable
most liked carry guns

Once again, these are JUST my opinions.

CDW4ME
June 25, 2011, 09:31 AM
I had a Kel-Tec 32 a couple of years ago. It worked fine.

This is what I got in terms of power, average for 5 shots:
Silvertip 60 gr. @ 839 fps = 94# KE
Hydra-Shok 65 gr. @ 804 fps = 93# KE

Using the same chrono, at the same, time Kel-Tec P3AT:
Gold Dot 90 gr. @ 841 fps = 141# KE
Hydra-Shok 90 gr. @ 845 fps = 143# KE

P3AT still rides in pocket, 50% increase in KE just too much to ignore.

At least now you have an idea of the power (KE) your possibly obtaining if you didn't before.

jdh
June 25, 2011, 12:29 PM
Fiocchi 60 gr. XTP fills the mag and feeds fine in mine.

Come on now people. Everybody knows the 32 ACP will pick the bad guy up and throw him back 50 yards from 200 yards away and can cause devastation equal to a small tactical nuke at closer ranges. Just watch any James Bond movie it you need confirmation.

Ohioan
June 25, 2011, 12:44 PM
Any one know if Fiocchi makes an EMB. ( expanding mono block) in. 32? That would probably work well. In 9mm it gives good expansion and penetration in a 91 or 92 grain bullet.

Jagermann
June 25, 2011, 10:39 PM
I love these little guns. I carry one everywhere usually as a backup weapon. I've never had any problems with it feeding any sort of ammo. I've only tried one brand of hollowpoints though it. After a lot of practice I can now consistently hit a man sized target at 25 yards. Most people I let shoot it couldn't hit a broad side of a barn though. You definitely have to get used to the sites, or should I say lack of sites.

spence
June 25, 2011, 11:08 PM
cdw4me, thanks for the crono reports . Much appreciate your time and effort. What does pf stand for in your glock report ?

CDW4ME
June 26, 2011, 09:43 AM
cdw4me, thanks for the crono reports . Much appreciate your time and effort. What does pf stand for in your glock report ?

Good question.
PF= power factor and it is a calculation that can be used to compare recoil in same size same weight pistols. PF = bullet weight x speed / 1,000
In my signature you can see that the 357 SIG has less felt recoil than the 40 using the same make ammunition in same size subcompact Glocks.

You can apply this to your 32.
Silvertip 60 gr. @ 839 fps = 94# KE = PF 50
Hydra-Shok 65 gr. @ 804 fps = 93# KE = PF 52

Whereas the Kel-Tec P3AT:
Gold Dot 90 gr. @ 841 fps = 141# KE = PF 76
Hydra-Shok 90 gr. @ 845 fps = 143# KE = PF 76

The extra energy of the 380 comes with extra felt recoil. ;)

Snowdog
June 26, 2011, 11:39 AM
Many folks that carry the P32 usually skip the JHP stuff as we're well aware the .32acp will offer wonderful penetration or acceptable expansion, but seldom both.

I use Fiocchi 73gr as I bought a bunch cheap, but S&B is great stuff (and what I used to carry before running out).

According to various sites, Fiocchi 73gr FMJ typically achieves 850 fps from the P32 (roughly 120 ft. lbs) and S&B usually chronographs from a P32 somewhere between 900 and 950 fps, depending on the source (130 ft. lbs - 145 ft. lbs, respectively). I personally haven't run either over a chronograph that I can remember, but being a full metal jacket, I would think the little P32 has a pretty good chance of putting a couple slugs through the brain-case of most any assailant at close enough range. For me, this requires plenty of practice of drawing and firing 2 shots at a pie plat about 7 yards as quickly as possible. If I manage to do as well in life as I do in practice, I expect the P32 to provide adequate protection. There's always an additional 6 rounds if needed.

Cor-Bon did (or perhaps still does) produce a .32acp 60gr JHP that many folks seemed to like from the P32. If I recall correctly, it was expected to spit those little pills out at 1000 FPS from the P32 short barrel.

Of course, if center of mass is the target and JHP is the fodder, you'd gain a bit from the .380acp I would think.

jimk0512
June 26, 2011, 01:54 PM
I had one about five years ago. Never locked open on an empty mag. Bought a new mag, tried a variety of ammo, no change. Contacted K-T, they sent me new springs, new slide stop, no change.

Mine has almost the same issue (usually does not lock open after shooting the last round). It started doing that after about 500 rounds. Kel-Tec has sent me new parts, which have not corrected the issue. It will stay locked open when I pull the slide back and push up on the magazine to "set" it. I've kept the P-32 and now have over 1500 rounds down range. I figure, what the heck, it is accurate and empties the entire magazine without fail, so I keep using it for CCW. I think neither the Ruger LCP nor the Kel-Tec P-3AT lock open after shooting the last round, so I figure I'm not losing anything that most folks have anyway.

bigfatdave
June 26, 2011, 01:57 PM
you guys with lock-open problems ... could the magazine be riding too low and not letting the follower engage the internal lobe of the slide latch?

toivo
June 26, 2011, 05:06 PM
you guys with lock-open problems ... could the magazine be riding too low and not letting the follower engage the internal lobe of the slide latch?
Count me in -- I suspect that magazine-catch wear is the culprit.

Stevie-Ray
June 27, 2011, 12:54 AM
But, I am pleased that the P-32 will make an exceptional second option for "shirt-tucked-in" occasions, and maybe even as a BUG or "NY-reload" when the PF-9 is carriedThat's what I use mine for. It's my "always" gun, even when I throw my clothes on quickly and have to run outside for whatever, the P32 is in my back pocket. First rule of a gunfight...... Normally though, it's BUG to my primary Kimber UCDP. I generally use Geco ball, as it's pretty hot, but WWB will work in a pinch.

MedWheeler
August 1, 2011, 11:45 PM
Just an update to my own thread.. I did buy and install the rimlock bar from Kel-Tec into the standard 7-round magazine. There is now absolutely no wiggle-room for those WWB FMJ-FN rounds in there, but I have not yet been to the range since I installed it. I did also order and receive a second magazine in case I want the option of loading the gun with either short-profile or "standard-length" ammunition. I also bought the finger-rest extension, but didn't like the fit when it was installed, and promptly removed it. I think I was just excited about accessories for this gun, forgetting its position as "secondary" carry piece, one that does not need these accessories.

bigfatdave
August 2, 2011, 03:27 AM
one that does not need these accessories.you DO need more than 2 magazines, though.

toivo
August 2, 2011, 03:38 AM
you DO need more than 2 magazines, though.

+1. Give a thought at least one of the ten-rounders, too. Some people have reported problems, but the one I have has been 100% reliable.

bigfatdave
August 2, 2011, 03:41 AM
I still don't quite trust my 10x mags, I can induce rimlock so much more easily in them with the extra play.

At leasy only use them with longer ammo or a flyer wire, shorter rounds AND rattle room AND vertical space make for problems.

Oh, and how much was the adapter from KT? I was just looking for one on their site last night and didn't find it, I would have tossed in a few of them while I was ordering PMR-30 buffers, but had no luck finding any.
Also ... could you snap a few pictures of the installed wire?

toivo
August 2, 2011, 04:41 AM
Oh, and how much was the adapter from KT? I was just looking for one on their site last night and didn't find it, I would have tossed in a few of them while I was ordering MPR-30 buffers, but had no luck finding any.

Kel-Tec makes an adapter for the 10-rounders too. The adapters aren't on the website, but I e-mailed KT a few weeks ago, and they said they still have them in stock; you just have to order them over the phone.

heeler
August 2, 2011, 09:14 AM
I am not quite sure what I and another shooting friend of mine find so appealing about that little .32 but we do.
In fact just yesterday I saw one on GunBroker for $219.00 with free shipping.
And I have seen them a time or two locally for $229.00.
Pennies really.
I have some weekend overtime projects coming up over the next few months and might finally get off my can and just buy one of the little whippersnappers.
Obviously some people are buying these little pistols as Taurus has just introduced a .32 that is likely based on their TCP 738 .380.

MedWheeler
August 4, 2011, 03:41 PM
Dave, you have to call Kel-Tec to ask for the adaptors. They're not on the online store, but they are there. For the standard magazine, they're nine dollars and some change. I did not check into the one for the ten-rounder.

MedWheeler
August 4, 2011, 03:46 PM
you DO need more than 2 magazines, though.

Uh, why? If I get into a situation that 15 rounds and my own smarts won't get me out of, seven more ain't gonna do it (and neither would fifteen of 9mm.)

toivo
August 4, 2011, 04:44 PM
you DO need more than 2 magazines, though.
Uh, why? If I get into a situation that 15 rounds and my own smarts won't get me out of, seven more ain't gonna do it (and neither would fifteen of 9mm.)

Because you need a reload and a spare. Let's say you have two magazines, and one malfunctions at the range. Then you're going to be stuck without a reload magazine. :uhoh:

Snowdog
August 4, 2011, 06:33 PM
I don't bother with extra mags with this pistol either. Fortunately for me, the 7 round mag mine came with is reliable.

My P32 is a face pistol and something I need to have get the job done within the first few rounds. If I run out of ammunition and have the time and the magazines with me to reload, it would pretty much mean I'm using it in a method I had not intended.

As some people here are fond of saying, mine P32 is a "get the hell off me" pistol, much as one would consider with a derringer.

More power to those who supply their P32 with extra magazines to make it more combat-suitable, but I'll pass on the spare mags with this particular pistol.

MedWheeler
August 4, 2011, 11:38 PM
Because you need a reload and a spare. Let's say you have two magazines, and one malfunctions at the range. Then you're going to be stuck without a reload magazine.

In which case, I's simply carry another gun. As I've said, this is not my primary carry gun. More than 90 percent of the time it is actually carried, it is with another gun (PF9.) And that gun is carried more than 95 percent of the time I am armed, which is pretty much all my waking hours. The P32 is carried alone so rarely that I would not miss it if I had to set it aside for a week or two to replace one or more failed magazines.

toivo
August 5, 2011, 12:01 AM
In which case, I's simply carry another gun. As I've said, this is not my primary carry gun. More than 90 percent of the time it is actually carried, it is with another gun (PF9.) And that gun is carried more than 95 percent of the time I am armed, which is pretty much all my waking hours. The P32 is carried alone so rarely that I would not miss it if I had to set it aside for a week or two to replace one or more failed magazines.

Yeah, I can see your point. You don't need a back-up for your back-up, in other words. Makes sense.

jmresistance
August 5, 2011, 03:44 AM
I love my Kel-Tec P-32! I'm looking into getting an XD-9 for primary carry, but I've carried the KT for months and will continue to use it as a BUG. I've only put about 175 rounds through it, but no problems so far. Feeds perfectly fine with at least three different brands of ammo: Winchestor, Remington, and Privi Partizan.

SGW42
August 5, 2011, 02:25 PM
I just bought one of these last week. I don't even CCW, I just wanted to try something new and see what Kel-Tecs were all about.

Very much impressed with mine! I was expecting "belly gun" accuracy, but I found I was keeping everything in the 9 ring on a B27 out past 10 yards! Gun was very reliable through it's first 100 rounds. It failed to strip a round from the magazine only once (weird) but solved with a rack. .32 Auto was very pleasant, IMO. Makes me wonder what the P-3AT would be like.

I bought a 10 rounder when I bought the gun, but I found that this changed the handling dynamics of the pistol dramatically. I found it difficult to get a comfortable handle on it without the possibility of pinching my finger between the grip and mag extension. Then despite all that precaution I ended up pinching the meat on the inside of my trigger finger between the trigger and frame, lol. I was much more comfortable and accurate with the regular 7 rounders.

Overall I am extremely happy and now taking a closer look at other Kel-Tec products.

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